OSLIST Digest - 15 Nov 2010 (#2010-273)

[Godin Ernest]

Lisa
I really love your description of these complexes process
great
Ernest
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> Topics of the day:
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>  1. AW: OS and mediation, clarifications and questions!
>  2. Opening Space in Bilbao_CONSP!RING EUTOKIA
>  3. Giving context, clarifying the theme
>  4. OST following a creative enhacing training
>  5. OS and mediation
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> Date:    Mon, 15 Nov 2010 23:32:11 +0100
> From:    Catherine Pfaehler <c.pfaehler at bluewin.ch>
> Subject: AW: OS and mediation, clarifications and questions!
>
> Dear Arno, dear all
>
> 1. Arno speaks about mediation as a way of resolving conflict, not about
> meditation.
> 2. He would use OST for the annual conference of mediation practitioners.
> The conference could be a mix of OST for all present and presentations
> about
> their work and experiences by mediation practitioners, as I have understood
> his initial post.
> 3. He is asking for the format - OST only, or part of the time OST and
> another part presentations or a shared experience of mediation?
>
> Arno, how long does the conference usually last?
> Would you use OST to address some common issues, or for the exchange of
> experiences only?
> What is your personal feeling, what would you like most to choose as a
> format?
> I have experimented with mixes and with short OST events and have come to
> the conclusion that it takes away some of the best parts of OST if we only
> allow for half a day of it. If it can be a day, that is the minimum. If we
> can have 2.5 days, that is ideal, especially, if you want to generate some
> real engagement and commitment for projects etc.
>
> With kind regards, Catherine
>
> Catherine Pfaehler
> lic.oec.HSG
> Open Space Begleitung
> Burckhardtstrasse 2
> CH - 3008 Bern
> Telefon +41-(0)31 - 536 05 31
> Mobile  +41-(0)76 - 488 15 46
> c.pfaehler at open-space-begleitung.ch
> www.open-space-begleitung.ch
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Arno Baltin [mailto:arno at tlu.ee]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 12. November 2010 09:46
> Betreff: OS and mediation
>
> Hi everybody!
>
> I have seen on the list comments from listers with connections to
> mediation. I am intersted in possible overlappings of these two methods.
> After expressing once my skepsis on traditional conference arrangement
> (on a mediatiors annual conference) I was encouraged to suggest
> alternatives. I suggested OS. This idea developed into search for a mix
> of mediation and OS. The min. program is still dividing annual meeting
> between time for presentations and OS. The max. program could be some
> arrangement including OS and mediation practice.
> So, what you think?
>
> Arno
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> Date:    Mon, 15 Nov 2010 20:20:08 -0800
> From:    Lisa Heft <lisaheft at openingspace.net>
> Subject: Re: Opening Space in Bilbao_CONSP!RING EUTOKIA
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> Hello, dear Eleder -
>
> By now you have facilitated your event - yes? However I still wish to
> share some thoughts about your questions - at least what I have
> noticed during my own OS work.
>
> Regarding people coming at various times during the day:
> To me, if there are a few people who come in during the day, it is
> easy for someone to greet them at the door and help orient them to
> what is happening in the room ("We are delighted that you can join us
> - welcome. Look at the Agenda Wall that will tell you what
> conversations are happening during this hour, feel free to wander in
> and out of any of the discussions, someone in each group is
> volunteering to take notes so you will be able to read about the
> sessions that have happened earlier today, we will gather at 4:00 for
> closing circle so enjoy and we will see you then".  Simple, quick, and
> they get to go into the groups without needing too much more time for
> orientation. It is like saying "welcome to my house party - there is
> the food, people are playing a game out in the garden, let me know if
> you need anything". Simple.
>
> However if there are large numbers of people coming in at different
> times this is a little harder. But doable. I find it is useful to
> designate someone to great newcomers to do this. It is also possible
> to let participants simply absorb them or to let the newcomers figure
> some things out for themselves - but I have found that the newcomers
> are at the disadvantage without learning that you can move about and a
> few more tips on how this is different than usual meetings. It just
> gives them more freedom. But someone else might say that is one less
> thing to do.
>
> I also have found it is best to do this personally and verbally rather
> than make a sign or a handout because I have found that nobody absorbs
> the information on a sign or a handout but they do like being welcomed
> personally.
>
> Others may have had other experiences.
>
> Regarding doing your introduction and instructions in two languages: I
> do hope you did. The dual language is essential in your culture,
> history, re-emergence of a historically silenced culture and language,
> and more. It is a welcoming - an honoring - an inclusion.  By the way
> - all my posters are always in two languages, no matter where in the
> world I facilitate. To me, it is about diversity and honoring where
> you are and how everything is not majority culture. I just pick the
> top two languages of the region I am facilitating in (in the U.S. my
> posters are usually in English and Spanish - unless i am working with
> specific-language or specific-culture communities in the US, then the
> posters are whatever are the two top languages).
>
> Regarding taking notes in text as participants often do / doing a mind
> map of notes:
> I am a big supporter of documentation in Open Space and other dialogue
> work because participants can then have more than the moment of
> talking - they can have reflection, data, the ability to 'listen in'
> on discussions they could not attend, ability to re-connect post-
> conference to continue key conversations, and more.
>
> I have found that designing documentation based on several elements is
> useful: how will participants use it, how do participants absorb
> information (graphically, via text, by re-reading conversations they
> have had, whatever), what is most useful to them (does text describing
> a running conversation show all the directions and unanswered
> questions the discussion explored, is this more useful to the
> participants or client than a few key points), which is useable and
> appropriate for the organization or group after the event (do they
> have to turn the information generated into worksheets or a report or
> a piece of art for what they need post-event) - it all takes
> considerable thought.  In my experience.
> I look forward to seeing the mind map. I have observed that mind maps
> are helpful for some people who can see them as clustered information
> - difficult for other people who have trouble seeing things in a non-
> linear way.
> Like the choice of dialogue tool (open space, world cafe, whatever),
> to me, the objectives, desired outcomes, context, culture, capacity,
> what follows and so on: to me, all of these inform the design of
> documentation.
>
> Regarding "Selling OS":
> I have found that - like one does not sell a hammer because a hammer
> is the most fabulous tool and should be used for everything -
> plumbing, sewing, cooking, carpentry... one does not sell Open Space
> for things. One simply analyzes context, task, time, deliverables,
> use, site, numbers of participants, and so many more things, then
> chooses the right dialogue tool. Right?
> I do believe / have found that no brochure or marketing materials
> explain facilitation in ways that clients seem to absorb. I find that
> - as I think you are saying - people feel my enthusiasm for
> facilitation, see me at work, hear me tell stories - and get a 'feel'
> for me, experience something that works for them, feel it is a fit,
> remember me or that experience when a situation arises, and so on.
>
> Regarding how much time you spend on it:
> I do a lot of pre-work for an Open Space (or any other facilitation) -
> more than some of my colleagues.
> For Open Space or any other facilitation - I used to keep a record of
> all my hours on every facilitation job I had in the early years so I
> could learn what was usual.  I found that for any facilitation - for
> every day of 'stand-up' there are an additional 3 to 5 days of pre-
> work, communication, desk time, materials creation, and so on.  That
> is if it is an uncomplicated event. For something complicated (like
> very large or requiring lots of in-person meetings with committees or
> other things that take more hours) it is more.  I host a regional
> facilitation network and when I have said this lots of people in the
> conversations we have have nodded their heads as it seems the same for
> them.
> I know that some facilitators charge a flat fee (x for a 1-day
> facilitation for a corporation, y for an ngo) and some charge a day-
> rate for x number of days estimated.
>
> I simply tell each prospective client how many days I think this will
> take, tell them that some people pay me a day rate of x and others
> have only a certain amount total - and let every client pay me
> whatever is the most they can afford given their budget. We have a
> very honest conversation about their resources.  Everybody pays me
> what they can, and it always works out. Just like when I give my
> workshops (each individual pays what they can for registration).
> I know many colleagues who prefer to have set prices because that
> works better for their needs and their personal style.
>
> What are other peoples' experiences and observations? I look forward
> to hearing everyone's different or similar ways of doing things.
>
> I miss you, Eleder. I wish we could have this conversation over a
> glass of some fabulous local wine and watch the waves in your lovely
> part of the world...
>
> Lisa
>
>
>
> Lisa Heft
> Consultant, Facilitator, Educator
> Opening Space
> lisaheft at openingspace.net
>
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> -<div><br></div><div>By now you have facilitated your event - yes? =
> However I still wish to share some thoughts about your questions - at =
> least what I have noticed during my own OS =
> work.</div><div><br></div><div>Regarding people coming at various times =
> during the day:</div><div>To me, if there are a few people who come in =
> during the day, it is easy for someone to greet them at the door and =
> help orient them to what is happening in the room ("We are delighted =
> that you can join us - welcome. Look at the Agenda Wall that will tell =
> you what conversations are happening during this hour, feel free to =
> wander in and out of any of the discussions, someone in each group is =
> volunteering to take notes so you will be able to read about the =
> sessions that have happened earlier today, we will gather at 4:00 for =
> closing circle so enjoy and we will see you then".  Simple, quick, =
> and they get to go into the groups without needing too much more time =
> for orientation. It is like saying "welcome to my house party - there is =
> the food, people are playing a game out in the garden, let me know if =
> you need anything". Simple.</div><div><br></div><div>However if there =
> are large numbers of people coming in at different times this is a =
> little harder. But doable. I find it is useful to designate someone to =
> great newcomers to do this. It is also possible to let participants =
> simply absorb them or to let the newcomers figure some things out for =
> themselves - but I have found that the newcomers are at the disadvantage =
> without learning that you can move about and a few more tips on how this =
> is different than usual meetings. It just gives them more freedom. But =
> someone else might say that is one less thing to =
> do.</div><div><br></div><div>I also have found it is best to do this =
> personally and verbally rather than make a sign or a handout because I =
> have found that nobody absorbs the information on a sign or a handout =
> but they do like being welcomed =
> personally.</div><div><br></div><div>Others may have had other =
> experiences.</div><div><br></div><div>Regarding doing your introduction =
> and instructions in two languages: I do hope you did. The dual language =
> is essential in your culture, history, re-emergence of a historically =
> silenced culture and language, and more. It is a welcoming - an honoring =
> - an inclusion.  By the way - all my posters are always in two =
> languages, no matter where in the world I facilitate. To me, it is about =
> diversity and honoring where you are and how everything is not majority =
> culture. I just pick the top two languages of the region I am =
> facilitating in (in the U.S. my posters are usually in English and =
> Spanish - unless i am working with specific-language or specific-culture =
> communities in the US, then the posters are whatever are the two top =
> languages).</div><div><br></div><div>Regarding taking notes in text as =
> participants often do / doing a mind map of notes: </div><div>I am =
> a big supporter of documentation in Open Space and other dialogue work =
> because participants can then have more than the moment of talking - =
> they can have reflection, data, the ability to 'listen in' on =
> discussions they could not attend, ability to re-connect post-conference =
> to continue key conversations, and more.</div><div><br></div><div>I have =
> found that designing documentation based on several elements is useful: =
> how will participants use it, how do participants absorb information =
> (graphically, via text, by re-reading conversations they have had, =
> whatever), what is most useful to them (does text describing a running =
> conversation show all the directions and unanswered questions the =
> discussion explored, is this more useful to the participants or client =
> than a few key points), which is useable and appropriate for the =
> organization or group after the event (do they have to turn the =
> information generated into worksheets or a report or a piece of art for =
> what they need post-event) - it all takes considerable thought.  In =
> my experience.  </div><div>I look forward to seeing the mind map. I =
> have observed that mind maps are helpful for some people who can see =
> them as clustered information - difficult for other people who have =
> trouble seeing things in a non-linear way.</div><div>Like the choice of =
> dialogue tool (open space, world cafe, whatever), to me, the objectives, =
> desired outcomes, context, culture, capacity, what follows and so on: to =
> me, all of these inform the design of =
> documentation.</div><div><br></div><div>Regarding "Selling =
> OS": </div><div>I have found that - like one does not sell a hammer =
> because a hammer is the most fabulous tool and should be used for =
> everything - plumbing, sewing, cooking, carpentry... one does not sell =
> Open Space for things. One simply analyzes context, task, time, =
> deliverables, use, site, numbers of participants, and so many more =
> things, then chooses the right dialogue tool. Right?</div><div>I do =
> believe / have found that no brochure or marketing materials explain =
> facilitation in ways that clients seem to absorb. I find that - as I =
> think you are saying - people feel my enthusiasm for facilitation, see =
> me at work, hear me tell stories - and get a 'feel' for me, experience =
> something that works for them, feel it is a fit, remember me or that =
> experience when a situation arises, and so =
> on.</div><div><br></div><div>Regarding how much time you spend on =
> it:</div><div>I do a lot of pre-work for an Open Space (or any other =
> facilitation) - more than some of my colleagues.</div><div>For Open =
> Space or any other facilitation - I used to keep a record of all my =
> hours on every facilitation job I had in the early years so I could =
> learn what was usual.  I found that for any facilitation - for =
> every day of 'stand-up' there are an additional 3 to 5 days of pre-work, =
> communication, desk time, materials creation, and so on.  That is =
> if it is an uncomplicated event. For something complicated (like very =
> large or requiring lots of in-person meetings with committees or other =
> things that take more hours) it is more.  I host a regional =
> facilitation network and when I have said this lots of people in the =
> conversations we have have nodded their heads as it seems the same for =
> them.</div><div>I know that some facilitators charge a flat fee (x for a =
> 1-day facilitation for a corporation, y for an ngo) and some charge a =
> day-rate for x number of days estimated.</div><div><br></div><div>I =
> simply tell each prospective client how many days I think this will =
> take, tell them that some people pay me a day rate of x and others have =
> only a certain amount total - and let every client pay me whatever is =
> the most they can afford given their budget. We have a very honest =
> conversation about their resources.  Everybody pays me what they =
> can, and it always works out. Just like when I give my workshops (each =
> individual pays what they can for registration).</div><div>I know many =
> colleagues who prefer to have set prices because that works better for =
> their needs and their personal style.</div><div><br></div><div>What are =
> other peoples' experiences and observations? I look forward to hearing =
> everyone's different or similar ways of doing =
> things.</div><div><br></div><div>I miss you, Eleder. I wish we could =
> have this conversation over a glass of some fabulous local wine and =
> watch the waves in your lovely part of the =
> world...</div><div><br></div><div>Lisa</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>=
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> Date:    Mon, 15 Nov 2010 20:35:44 -0800
> From:    Lisa Heft <lisaheft at openingspace.net>
> Subject: Re: Giving context, clarifying the theme
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> This is another great conversation.
>
> I find that as Harrison says - the invitation needs to explain why the
> client is bringing people together - in a way that shares the energy
> for and about the event.
> People need to choose an event among others - what will compel them to
> come - what will be interesting and meaningful to them? (usually that
> means zero about the process, more about engaging questions or
> intriguing thoughts that really interest the potential participants).
>
> Then there is the theme - which I find is usually best as a question -
> the theme, to me, is the task.
> They get there and part of the introduction is 'this is our task today
> - Rebuilding Our Amazing XYZ Company: What are our opportunities? what
> are our issues?"
> Or whatever is the task. The invitational question that inspires
> participants to think of topics that matter to them.
>
> I work with the clients over time to find the best wording of this
> theme - we keep visiting it until it really 'sings' to us. When we hit
> the right language everyone feels it and goes "that's it!"
>
> I know that some of you have the host say the theme.
>
> I am more like Chris - and I like how you explained it, dear Chris.
> The way I usually do it, the host / client welcomes people and says
> how excited they are, they talk a little bit about why we are all here
> today, then I say the actual theme/task and explain the process and we
> move into agenda co-creation and so on.
>
> To me, talking about the theme-task is part of the explanation of what
> we are here to do and to me, that is part of explaining the process
> for the day - that is why I say it.
> So whether the client is articulate and clear about the reason we are
> here today or not - we are both saying something (and I can say less
> about theme if they are really clear about it) and it works out even
> if the client is vague or not specific enough about the theme / task
> (because then I name it, share the energy about it, as Chris says).
>
> What do others do?
>
> Lisa
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> Lisa Heft
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> after-white-space; ">This is another great =
> conversation.<div><br></div><div>I find that as Harrison says - the =
> invitation needs to explain why the client is bringing people together - =
> in a way that shares the energy for and about the =
> event.</div><div>People need to choose an event among others - what will =
> compel them to come - what will be interesting and meaningful to them? =
> (usually that means zero about the process, more about engaging =
> questions or intriguing thoughts that really interest the potential =
> participants).</div><div><br></div><div>Then there is the theme - which =
> I find is usually best as a question - the theme, to me, is the =
> task.</div><div>They get there and part of the introduction is 'this is =
> our task today - Rebuilding Our Amazing XYZ Company: What are our =
> opportunities? what are our issues?"</div><div>Or whatever is the task. =
> The invitational question that inspires participants to think of topics =
> that matter to them.</div><div><br></div><div>I work with the clients =
> over time to find the best wording of this theme - we keep visiting it =
> until it really 'sings' to us. When we hit the right language everyone =
> feels it and goes "that's it!"</div><div><br></div><div>I know that some =
> of you have the host say the theme.</div><div><br></div><div>I am more =
> like Chris - and I like how you explained it, dear Chris. =
>  </div><div>The way I usually do it, the host / client welcomes =
> people and says how excited they are, they talk a little bit about why =
> we are all here today, then I say the actual theme/task and explain the =
> process and we move into agenda co-creation and so =
> on.</div><div><br></div><div>To me, talking about the theme-task is part =
> of the explanation of what we are here to do and to me, that is part of =
> explaining the process for the day - that is why I say it.</div><div>So =
> whether the client is articulate and clear about the reason we are here =
> today or not - we are both saying something (and I can say less about =
> theme if they are really clear about it) and it works out even if the =
> client is vague or not specific enough about the theme / task (because =
> then I name it, share the energy about it, as Chris =
> says).</div><div> </div><div>What do others =
> do?</div><div><br></div><div>Lisa </div><div><br><div =
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> From:    Lisa Heft <lisaheft at openingspace.net>
> Subject: Re: OST following a creative enhacing training
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> Peggy, I love how you explained your observations and experiments and
> adaptations over time *for the particular culture you were working
> with* and I also love that we can never assume that academics or
> financial departments or police persons or engineers are always going
> to need extra / adaptations / 'help'.
>
> I know that some groups and cultures seem a little harder to work with
> in dialogue / non-linear / participatory processes but I have also
> made the mistake of assuming they were that way and have laughed at
> myself afterwards for my cultural assumptions - when the next similar
> group I work with acts completely differently.
>
> Either way - I find it always works when the task / reason / theme is
> meaningful to the group.
>
> I love facilitating these participant-driven dialogue methods because
> I can learn so much by shutting up ;o) and being amazed and later - by
> reading their Books of Proceedings to learn what they are passionate
> about...
> Lisa
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> <html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
> -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Peggy, I love how you explained =
> your observations and experiments and adaptations over time *for the =
> particular culture you were working with* and I also love that we can =
> never assume that academics or financial departments or police persons =
> or engineers are always going to need extra / adaptations / =
> 'help'.<div><br></div><div>I know that some groups and cultures seem a =
> little harder to work with in dialogue / non-linear / participatory =
> processes but I have also made the mistake of assuming they were that =
> way and have laughed at myself afterwards for my cultural assumptions - =
> when the next similar group I work with acts completely =
> differently.</div><div><br></div><div>Either way - I find it always =
> works when the task / reason / theme is meaningful to the =
> group. </div><div><br></div><div><div>I love facilitating these =
> participant-driven dialogue methods because I can learn so much by =
> shutting up ;o) and being amazed and later - by reading their Books of =
> Proceedings to learn what they are passionate =
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> Date:    Mon, 15 Nov 2010 20:59:38 -0800
> From:    Lisa Heft <lisaheft at openingspace.net>
> Subject: Re: OS and mediation
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> I may be unclear on what you are saying or asking: mediation is
> something that helps people articulate differences, hear each others'
> stories, decide what is or is not common ground, and so on.  Many
> different tools / processes can be used - something similar to
> counseling, or Restorative Justice Circles, or guided conversations,
> or many other processes.  Perhaps during a series of events or for a
> specific reason Open Space may be the right tool, for other
> situations, the wrong tool, I suspect. Those of you who specialize in
> mediation will of course have more knowledge about these things.
>
> And then there is conference design. Whether it is a mediators
> conference or a youth activist conference or a doctors conference.
>
> And I love what Bui said:
>
> > But as with anything, it all depends on what you are trying to
> > accomplish. Decide on the purpose first and then pick the tool.
>
> To me that is good design.
> Analyze objectives, desired outcomes, time available, space available,
> context, participant numbers, what comes before and after and so on -
> then select the tool(s) to best fit the need.
>
> I have found, Arno, that it is best - when mixing traditional
> conference (workshops, presentations, whatever) with some time also in
> Open Space (the more time the better to let participants do their
> thing) - it is really ideal to put the Open Space as the last part of
> the conference.
>
> 1) Because participants can use that time to talk about new / emergent
> things as well as to reflect on things they have learned or heard
> earlier in the conference.
>
> 2) Because the Closing Circle of an Open Space can be a great
> closure / closing reflection for a conference.
>
> And 3) Because if conference attendees experience OS earlier in the
> conference and then have to 'fit themselves into the shape of' a
> traditional conference after that (sitting listening to a speaker,
> listening in a workshop, listening to a panel presentation) - they can
> get uncomfortable and feel their time is more useful self-organizing
> and continuing to meet together to talk about what matters to them
> (including wandering back out into the hallways to continue their
> meaningful conversations that began in Open Space).
>
> So for a mixed-format conference I always recommend that OS be the
> final section...
>
> Lisa
>
> Lisa Heft
> Consultant, Facilitator, Educator
> Opening Space
> lisaheft at openingspace.net
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> <html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
> -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>I may be unclear on =
> what you are saying or asking: mediation is something that helps people =
> articulate differences, hear each others' stories, decide what is or is =
> not common ground, and so on.  Many different tools / processes can =
> be used - something similar to counseling, or Restorative Justice =
> Circles, or guided conversations, or many other processes.  Perhaps =
> during a series of events or for a specific reason Open Space may be the =
> right tool, for other situations, the wrong tool, I suspect. Those of =
> you who specialize in mediation will of course have more knowledge about =
> these things.</div><div><br></div><div>And then there is conference =
> design. Whether it is a mediators conference or a youth activist =
> conference or a doctors conference.</div><div><br></div>And I love what =
> Bui said:<div><br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite">But as with =
> anything, it all depends on what you are trying to accomplish. Decide on =
> the purpose first and then pick the =
> tool.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>To me that is good =
> design.</div><div>Analyze objectives, desired outcomes, time available, =
> space available, context, participant numbers, what comes before and =
> after and so on - then select the tool(s) to best fit the =
> need.</div><div><br></div></div><div>I have found, Arno, that it is best =
> - when mixing traditional conference (workshops, presentations, =
> whatever) with some time also in Open Space (the more time the better to =
> let participants do their thing) - it is really ideal to put the Open =
> Space as the last part of the =
> conference. </div><div><br></div><div>1) Because participants can =
> use that time to talk about new / emergent things as well as to reflect =
> on things they have learned or heard earlier in the =
> conference. </div><div><br></div><div>2) Because the Closing Circle =
> of an Open Space can be a great closure / closing reflection for a =
> conference. </div><div><br></div><div>And 3) Because if conference =
> attendees experience OS earlier in the conference and then have to 'fit =
> themselves into the shape of' a traditional conference after that =
> (sitting listening to a speaker, listening in a workshop, listening to a =
> panel presentation) - they can get uncomfortable and feel their time is =
> more useful self-organizing and continuing to meet together to talk =
> about what matters to them (including wandering back out into the =
> hallways to continue their meaningful conversations that began in Open =
> Space).</div><div><br></div><div>So for a mixed-format conference I =
> always recommend that OS be the final =
> section...</div><div><br></div><div>Lisa</div><div><br></div><div =
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