SV: Online WOSonOS Documentation

Michael Herman michael at michaelherman.com
Wed May 19 22:49:33 PDT 2010


i'd forgotten this altogether, artur.  and going back now to see it, i think
we were rather ahead of our time.  wikis were really new.  i don't know if
wikipedia had even started yet.

i thought the osonos cafe was rather remarkable:  5 days and as best i can
count, 27 different people checking in, from oz, europe (at the gathering
and not), usa, canada.  harrison chimed in from maine.  it was all in
english, but it didn't have to be.  that wiki could handle spanish or french
or haitian creole just fine.

if you've never been to an osonos gathering, this page is a pretty good
teaser, as are some others, like the one you flagged, artur...
http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?OSonOSinSwenMark/OSonOSCafe...and
some good notes in the debriefing session, too.

i guess the progress we made in marysville and svenmark got a bit lost when
osonos went to india the following year.  maybe next year -- if not sooner
-- we can pick up a bit where we left off.  openspaceworld.NET is still wide
open for hosting and posting, for any osonos or other event.

----

by the way, there is a fun story behind how wiki and open space came
together.  i was facilitating an open space track at the 'agile/extreme
programming' conference in chicago in 2002.  a guy named chris wege from
stuttgart showed me how to set up a wiki and i taught him and some others
about ost.  we both went off and used what we learned -- and used it a lot.
so these bits abotu agile using ost and ost using wiki always makes me
smile.

thanks for the reminding, artur.

m



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2010/5/20 Artur Silva <arturfsilva at yahoo.com>

> Thanks, Thomas and Michael H.
>
> It was indeed the SwenMark OSonOS (2003) I was referring...
>
> (I had planned to go, but then an helth problem, discovered in the previous
> month, did not allow me to go (and the organizers, did not obliged me to pay
> anything for the cancelation of my pre-commitement to go).
>
> Anyhow, from my house, I could follow the discussions and even participate
> in it.
>
> I have selected a page (of the first session of the Proceeedings) to show
> what was happennning. *The proceedings were being typed in the wiki
> immediatly after the session*. That allowed for a follow up discussion,
> and even for further comments, either by presencial participants or by
> anyone that could not came, for whatever reason. Being ill, I had the free
> time to participate (indirectly?) myself, which I did. I felt has if I was
> (almost) there. See this session as an example:
> http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?OSonOSinSwenMark/HowToLearnToBeHappyWithWhatHappens
>
> Artur
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Michael Herman <michael at michaelherman.com>
> *To:* OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> *Sent:* Thu, May 20, 2010 12:39:02 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [OSLIST] SV: Online WOSonOS Documentation
>
> all of the proceeding from marysville, australia, were posted to a wiki.
> this was one of the earliest uses of the wiki that still holds half of the
> content of the www.openspaceworld.ORG website.  that was 2002, osonos10.
> i was there in marysville and played caretaker for the whole wiki process.
> we had a regular document, too, but a bit more happened online than in that
> doc.  http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/wiki.cgi?MarysvilleAustralia
>
> then, the following year, thomas and friends posted all the svenmark notes
> from osonos11.  those got posted at the new www.openspaceworld.NET side of
> things.  http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?OSonOSinSwenMark
>
> after that, the planners for goa did not apparently have an interest in
> continuing this and things when in another direction.
>
> and, yes, as artur says, we had wikis set up for many languages, haitian,
> iberia (spanish and portuguese), estonia, italian, maybe french, too.
>
> i've offered web support to osonos hosts since then, but as more and more
> options became available and known and accessible to people everywhere,
> nobody else has taken me up on this.
>
> personally, i think i prefer a weblog format for posting notes, unless
> there is a bunch of action and work and other meetings going to spring from
> a gathering.
>
> looking forward to the new wiki, and wondering if it'll be the sort of
> place where many future osonos's can be reported.
>
> thanks, m
>
>
>
> --
>
> Michael Herman
> Michael Herman Associates
>
> http://www.michaelherman.com
> http://www.ronanparktrail.com
> http://www.chicagoconservationcorps.org
> http://www.openspaceworld.org
>
> 312-280-7838 (mobile)
>
>
> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Thomas Herrmann <
> thomas at openspaceconsulting.com> wrote:
>
>>  Hi Artur
>>
>> During the 11th World OSonOS in “Swenmark” (2003) we used a wiki to
>> capture proceedings and invite people to participate on distance during,
>> before and after the event. The proceedings and the wiki is to be found
>> among the other OSonOS proceedings on OSW.org
>>
>> With assistance from Michael, Chris and others it worked wonderfully! I
>> think.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Thomas Herrmann
>>
>>
>>
>> *Från:* OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] *För *Artur Silva
>> *Skickat:* den 19 maj 2010 23:50
>> *Till:* OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
>> *Ämne:* Re: Online WOSonOS Documentation
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Holger and others:
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for creating the Wiki for WOSonOS 2010 online digital
>> documentation.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have already sighed in. But I would like to request to the two "note
>> takers" of the two sessions I have convened, if they could be so kind to
>> "interpret" their own characters and put the report in the Wiki. Thank you.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyhow, Holger, from your post it may seem that it is the first time the
>> OST community is using Wikis. And it is not. 9 years ago, in 2001, Michael
>> Herman created the space http://www.openspaceworld.net/, that was, and
>> still is, a Wiki. In that same year, some of the "international language
>> pages", then created, have used wikis, and the Iberian one still is in an
>> wiki (http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/iberia.cgi?), now closed due to
>> spam and short of resources to cleaning it up every day.
>>
>>
>>
>> And in one of the two following years (I think the next one, but I am not
>> sure), all the reports have been created *directly in a wiki *(that I
>> cannot find anymore) where they could be edited and commented by anyone in
>> the world in real time, thus giving the possibility to anyone that could not
>> came to OSonOS to have a sense of what was happening and really commenting.
>> (What can be more inclusive than that?). Maybe that could be something to
>> have repeated in one (or both) of the two following WOSonOS's - next year in
>> Chile and/or in London, in 2012...
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Artur
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* Holger Nauheimer (Change Facilitation) <
>> h.nauheimer at change-facilitation.org>
>> *To:* Holger Nauheimer (Change Facilitation) <
>> h.nauheimer at change-facilitation.org>
>> *Sent:* Wed, May 19, 2010 12:06:09 AM
>> *Subject:* Online WOSonOS Documentation
>>
>> Dear WOSonOS participants and friends,
>>
>>
>>
>> As we have announced in the action planning of the WOSonOS, we want to do
>> an online documentation of the results of the WOSonOS. For that, we have
>> created a Wiki. A Wiki is a document which we can edit all – it has the
>> spirit of Open Space. Don’t worry, writing in a Wiki is as simple as writing
>> in a Word document.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a great experiment – because not only the conveners but all
>> participants can take responsibility to convert the handwritten materials
>> into typed script. Let us do t like an Open Space – self-organized.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please read the following instructions VERY CAREFULLY:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1.       We start with the documentation of the proceedings; the action
>> planning will come a bit later.
>>
>> 2.       With a separate email, you will get an invitation for our Wiki
>> (from the software company PbWorks). You will need to follow this invitation
>> to create an account. Please be assured that your data are secure, this is a
>> professional business version of a commercial programme.
>>
>> 3.       On the landing page (after you have created your account) you
>> will find detailed instructions of how to proceed.
>>
>> 4.       If you absolutely don’t want to use the Wiki for any reason, you
>> might also send us a Word file with the text you have typed.
>>
>> 5.       I made the status of all of you that of writers –meaning you
>> cannot create or delete pages. If you want to be an editor, please let me
>> know.
>>
>> 6.       There is also comment functions:  we can have discussions about
>> all issues and continue the discussions of the WOSonOS.
>>
>> 7.       This will not work if we are not passionate about and if we
>> don’t take our responsibility
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> With best regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Holger Nauheimer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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