Personal Reflections on WOSonOS 2010 in Berlin

Tue May 18 14:13:16 PDT 2010

Hi Annamarie, and all my OSTlist friends,

now I am in reflection of my participation in WOSONOS2010 in Berlin,

so pity cant to shake hands to all people which they gathered there  and
took part in all discussions,
they were a lot of insight feelings and ideas,

for me it is a very important question:*My question to you all is how is
'OSonOS'  convening around a critical business need or with what specific
intent?*
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To my opinion it depends of the  some kind of people which took part in
"OSonOS", if they are working with busines we can see visible some kind of
topics, discussions during OSonOS.

*I noticed that not much participants were interested to discuss on such
level of thinking. They were a lot of persons who came for the first time to
participate in OS in general, they were very interested in OS as a
technology, method, but not tool for solving problems of the business.*
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*I suppose we can be focused on such a problems during a very special OS or
will have special point or focus, because OS it is not goal it is Great tool
for people and organisation to be effective and self-organising,*
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*I am working on tourism now, so in my group "Art of hosting and OS" we try
to discuss how we can solve problems of networks of the Hotels which have
troubles and fall down market with MICE events this period,*
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*thanks Gerard Muller and some other friends this discussion was very
productive, *
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*now I am going to Jordan and Israel, will discuss this ideas with  some
Hotels,*
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*so I suppose we can more active to discuss the problems of business,*
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*my all best wishes,*
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*Galina Tsarkova*
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*MOSCOW*
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*Business open space*
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2010/5/18 Annamarie Pluhar <annamarie at pluharconsulting.com>

> Hi Arthur and everyone,
>
> Yes, I've been lurking here. I've not read  all of the messages in their
> entirety.  It's a torrent!  But I did read Arthur's contribution below about
> and I want to comment on Arthurs' " I wonder if we are not missing the
> point of OSonOS and confounding things that are not mixable."  I don't
> know what happened in Berlin or indeed at any other OS since the one I
> attended in 1993 (?) in Napa Valley.
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> My question to you all is how is "OSonOS"  convening around a critical
> business need or with what specific intent?
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> Peace,
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> Annamarie Pluhar
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> Pluhar Consulting
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> On May 18, 2010, at 1:45 AM, Artur Silva wrote:
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> Dear Open Spacers:
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> Following the OSonOS in Berlin 2000, I sent to this list some mails about
> my personal reflections on that event (that may be seen in the Archives,
> after 22/Oct/2000), that have created some different threads of
> conversation, and invited some changes in the OST community, the first one
> being the transformation of the "opensapeceword.org site", that was until
> then only in English, in a much more international site, in many languages,
> the first ones being the Iberian (Portuguese and Spanish:
> http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/iberia.cgi? ), the Swedish, the French
> (with a translation of Michael Herman's Introduction to OST to French, made
> by Véronique and myself - http://www.openspaceworld.org/french/index.html),
> the German, later followed by many others.
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>
> This year again (but with less free time and at a more spaced rhythm), I
> will try to do the same kind of reflections. I will begin with what I said
> in the closing circle at Berlin 2010. Please note that I have not taken any
> notes, before or afterwards, so this will not be the exact words, bur only a
> later tentative for reconstruction, that I made in the plains back home,
> probably as I had not received the Book of Proceedings that I would prefer
> to read in these flights and not the next time I will have some free time
> for it - probably not before one month from now. So, taking some time of my
> normal sleep time, here it follows:
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> First, I would like to say that the most important things that I will take
> from WOSonOS 2010, in Berlin, apart from some sessions I have participated
> in, is the fact that I met again people that I had not seen for 10 years;
> that I finally had the possibility of seeing for the first time many people
> that I already knew from the OSLIST but could not put a face to the name
> (some of which, btw, I considered already as friends); and some others who's
> faces I knew already from the OST NING site but I had never met in person
> which I did now - only to conclude that, in many cases, I could not relate
> the person to the picture because many photos - including mine - are 5 or 10
> years old... And, of course, I made here new friends... I am sorry that I
> could not spend more time with all of you in the evenings and nights but,
> after 5 o'clock, I was too tired of trying to speak and understand English,
> had some 20-40 professional mails that needed immediate attention and, for
> health reasons of my wife, was obliged to choose restaurants that allowed
> for a strict diet to compensate from the food during the day...
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> Second, some of you heard me say in the closing circle of Berlin 2000, and
> later repeat and clarify in many posts to the OSLIST, that the 8th OSonOS
> has been kind of magical to me. Unfortunately, I cannot say the same about
> Berlin 2010. Many, many reasons contribute to that, that I will not refer
> here, as we are already out of time and it is not the correct moment and
> place, but I will refer only one that relates only with myself: no one can,
> in relation to anything, have twice a "first experience"...
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> Third and last, I have hesitated in referring this, but I feel compelled to
> talk about it here and now. I will put this as questions and not answers but
> they are questions that I think we must address in the near future, maybe in
> Chile or even before that. I wonder if we are not missing the point of
> OSonOS and confounding things that are not mixable. First this meeting is
> called "Open Space on Open Space" and not "Open Space on Large Intervention
> Methods". And, using the words that Peggy Holman wrote in her contribution
> to the "Festscgrift" (or something like that...), that in the original "call
> for texts" was called "A present for Harrison" and later renamed "25 years
> of Open Space", OST has "simplicity of design" and shall not be confounded,
> as I saw here too often, with other methodologies where, in my opinion, the
> "facilitator" facilitates too much, disempowering the participants. On the
> other hand, and using again Peggy's words, OST comes from "generosity of
> spirit", as it was declared by Harrison as "everyone's birthright", that
> cannot be copyrighted or trademarked. But I saw here some confusion and even
> advertisement of other methods that, as they are trademarked, are not
> anymore IMHO part of OST.
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> Please don't get me wrong: I have nothing against those other methods, that
> are legitimate and may have their own fields of application and respective
> Communities of Practice. I only wonder and question if they must be
> contemplated in OSonOS as if they were "OST". I have the questions - not the
> answers. Maybe we can take a position about that in the near future.
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> Best regards
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> Artur
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