Hi Annamarie, and all my OSTlist friends,<div><br></div><div><div><br></div><div>now I am in reflection of my participation in WOSONOS2010 in Berlin,</div><div><br></div><div>so pity cant to shake hands to all people which they gathered there and took part in all discussions,</div>
<div>they were a lot of insight feelings and ideas, <br><div><br></div><div>for me it is a very important question:<font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000099"><b>My question to you all is how is 'OSonOS' convening around a critical business need or with what specific intent?</b></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000099"><b><br></b></font></div><div>To my opinion it depends of the some kind of people which took part in "OSonOS", if they are working with busines we can see visible some kind of topics, discussions during OSonOS.</div>
<div><br></div><div><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;">I noticed that not much participants were interested to discuss on such level of thinking. They were a lot of persons who came for the first time to participate in OS in general, they were very interested in OS as a technology, method, but not tool for solving problems of the business.</span></b></div>
<div><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><br></span></b></div><div><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;">I suppose we can be focused on such a problems during a very special OS or will have special point or focus, because OS it is not goal it is Great tool for people and organisation to be effective and self-organising,</span></b></div>
<div><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><br></span></b></div><div><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;">I am working on tourism now, so in my group "Art of hosting and OS" we try to discuss how we can solve problems of networks of the Hotels which have troubles and fall down market with MICE events this period,</span></b></div>
<div><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><br></span></b></div><div><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;">thanks Gerard Muller and some other friends this discussion was very productive, </span></b></div>
<div><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><br></span></b></div><div><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;">now I am going to Jordan and Israel, will discuss this ideas with some Hotels,</span></b></div>
<div><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><br></span></b></div><div><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;">so I suppose we can more active to discuss the problems of business,</span></b></div>
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2010/5/18 Annamarie Pluhar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:annamarie@pluharconsulting.com">annamarie@pluharconsulting.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi Arthur and everyone, <div><br></div><div>Yes, I've been lurking here. I've not read all of the messages in their entirety. It's a torrent! But I did read Arthur's contribution below about and I want to comment on Arthurs' "<span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-family:Times, serif;font-size:16px"> I wonder if we are not missing the point of OSonOS and confounding things that are not mixable."</span><font face="Arial, serif"> I don't know what happened in Berlin or indeed at any other OS since the one I attended in 1993 (?) in Napa Valley. </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial, serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="Arial, serif">My question to you all is how is "OSonOS" convening around a critical business need or with what specific intent? </font></div><div>
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<br><div><div>On May 18, 2010, at 1:45 AM, Artur Silva wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Arial;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div>
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<div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Times, serif;color:black">Dear Open Spacers:</span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Times, serif;color:black"><span>Following the OSonOS in Berlin 2000, I sent to this list some mails about my personal reflections on that event (that may be seen in the Archives, after 22/Oct/2000), that have created some different threads of conversation, and invited some changes in the OST community, the first one being the transformation of the "<a href="http://opensapeceword.org" target="_blank">opensapeceword.org</a><span> </span>site", that was until then only in English, in a much more international site, in many languages, the first ones being the Iberian (Portuguese and Spanish:<a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/iberia.cgi" target="_blank">http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/iberia.cgi</a>? ), the Swedish, the French (with a translation of Michael Herman's Introduction to OST to French, made by Véronique and myself -<span> </span><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/french/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.openspaceworld.org/french/index.html</a>), the German, later followed by many others. </span></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Times, serif;color:black">This year again (but with less free time and at a more spaced rhythm), I will try to do the same kind of reflections. I will begin with what I said in the closing circle at Berlin 2010. Please note that I have not taken any notes, before or afterwards, so this will not be the exact words, bur only a later tentative for reconstruction, that I made in the plains back home, probably as I had not received the Book of Proceedings that I would prefer to read in these flights and not the next time I will have some free time for it - probably not before one month from now. So, taking some time of my normal sleep time, here it follows:</span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Times, serif;color:rgb(0, 0, 191)">First, I would like to say that the most important things that I will take from WOSonOS 2010, in Berlin, apart from some sessions I have participated in, is the fact that I met again people that I had not seen for 10 years; that I finally had the possibility of seeing for the first time many people that I already knew from the OSLIST but could not put a face to the name (some of which, btw, I considered already as friends); and some others who's faces I knew already from the OST NING site but I had never met in person which I did now - only to conclude that, in many cases, I could not relate the person to the picture because many photos - including mine - are 5 or 10 years old... And, of course, I made here new friends... I am sorry that I could not spend more time with all of you in the evenings and nights but, after 5 o'clock, I was too tired of trying to speak and understand English, had some 20-40 professional mails that needed immediate attention and, for health reasons of my wife, was obliged to choose restaurants that allowed for a strict diet to compensate from the food during the day...</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Times, serif;color:black"></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Times, serif;color:rgb(0, 0, 191)">Second, some of you heard me say in the closing circle of Berlin 2000, and later repeat and clarify in many posts to the OSLIST, that the 8th OSonOS has been kind of magical to me. Unfortunately, I cannot say the same about Berlin 2010. Many, many reasons contribute to that, that I will not refer here, as we are already out of time and it is not the correct moment and place, but I will refer only one that relates only with myself: no one can, in relation to anything, have twice a "first experience"...</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Times, serif;color:black"></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Times, serif;color:rgb(0, 0, 191)">Third and last, I have hesitated in referring this, but I feel compelled to talk about it here and now. I will put this as questions and not answers but they are questions that I think we must address in the near future, maybe in Chile or even before that. I wonder if we are not missing the point of OSonOS and confounding things that are not mixable. First this meeting is called "Open Space on Open Space" and not "Open Space on Large Intervention Methods". And, using the words that Peggy Holman wrote in her contribution to the "Festscgrift" (or something like that...), that in the original "call for texts" was called "A present for Harrison" and later renamed "25 years of Open Space", OST has "simplicity of design" and shall not be confounded, as I saw here too often, with other methodologies where, in my opinion, the "facilitator" facilitates too much, disempowering the participants. On the other hand, and using again Peggy's words, OST comes from "generosity of spirit", as it was declared by Harrison as "everyone's birthright", that cannot be copyrighted or trademarked. But I saw here some confusion and even advertisement of other methods that, as they are trademarked, are not anymore IMHO part of OST.</span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Times, serif;color:rgb(0, 0, 191)">Please don't get me wrong: I have nothing against those other methods, that are legitimate and may have their own fields of application and respective Communities of Practice. I only wonder and question if they must be contemplated in OSonOS as if they were "OST". I have the questions - not the answers. Maybe we can take a position about that in the near future. </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Times, serif;color:black"></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Times, serif;color:black">Best regards </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Times, serif;color:black"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Times, serif;color:black">Artur </span></p></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">
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