OST + wiki = ProjectWiki

Fri Jun 11 07:03:24 PDT 2010

i'd like to study up a bit on this drupal and org groups stuff, bob.

i've done a lot of things with wiki.  some good success with capturing
things during an event.  people can pick it up pretty quickly, but just
because they 'get' it during the event, doesn't mean they can fit it into
their lives.  so the wikis mostly end when the event ends, in a more or less
finished state.

what i like better for capturing notes online now, is a simple blog.  i
prefer to work in wiki, personally, but with groups and os events, the shape
of any standard blog seems more like the shape of the event.  every session
gets its own blog post with notes and such.  teh conversation can continue
easily in the comments section of each post.  if there are followup actions
and such, those can be reported there.  the whole of the thing looks more
like the wall then, issue, issue, issue, with some other notes on the
sidebar, the equivalent of "need ride to airport at whatever time" or
"resources we know about".  there's room for clustering issues like people
do on the wall.  and new issues can be posted afterward, as they come up, in
an obvious extension of the same basic format established during the event.

the blog can link to lots of other thigns, including participants blogs on
related work.  and the thing about a blog is that it's always looks sort of
"finished" where wikis can often be a bit rough and unfinished looking.

yes, it might well fall to one or a few people to be the stewards of a blog,
where wiki's are more easily opened to everyone, but that too seems a bit
like open space... somebody is there to hold the space, bring the tape and
markers, schedule the room, manage the computer room.

a couple years ago, we did a series of events and then some training in
buffalo new york.  the sponsor of that work has moved on, and i'm not sure
they generated as many issues to work on and open space for as they thought
they would, if he'd stayed on in his cabinet position with the city.  but
InvitingBuffalo.com is an example of this.  haven't looked back there in a
while, but the earliest posts will have the form that i've suggested here.

it seems the simplest online meeting/proceedings that could possibly work.

m

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On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Pat Black <patoitextiles at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Robert
> I totally agree that wikis and other technologies are no replacement for
> face to face and can't have the powerful effects of relationship building
> that the face to face experiences have.  What they are great at is allowing
> for those conversations to continue once there has been a face to face.
>  They also create a structure that can manage very complex organizing
> amongst many people who are working on the same project and document those
> efforts almost effortlessly.
>
> I work with teachers to develop projects that integrate an academic
> disciple with an art or environmental project to enhance understanding and
> knowledge in the academic discipline.  Documentation and assessment has
> always been an issue for me as I have to step out of my role as teaching/
> collaborating artist to document.  This was always a perplexing issue for
> both me and teachers but with a wiki we capture it all from the initial Open
> Space gathering to the descriptive review critique process students use to
> evaluate throughout and for the most part it students take care of the
> documentation.
>
> I agree with Lisa that the wiki has to serve a purpose for participants
> after the initial OS event.  Adult participants won't go to a wiki to visit
> about the event and develop relationships, kids will go to just see what
> there friends are doing.  It is easier for them to have virtual
> relationships.  But people will use the wiki if they are working on a joint
> project and need to coordinate efforts.
> Pat
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Robert Fabian <robert at fabian.ca> wrote:
>
>> Pat et al,
>>
>> I'm new to OST, but have some ancient history with socio-tech and Search.
>> I
>> like what I've been able to discover about OST. Given my roots in
>> technology, I began to explore how / if technology could be used in the
>> Open
>> Space process. Some preliminary thoughts:
>>
>> Technology should not be used to replace face-to-face. The dynamic is
>> wrong,
>> ... but may be a practical alternative for children of different ages and
>> experiences. With adults, I can't see using technology as the medium for
>> Open Space.
>>
>> That said, there are possible roles for technology. Technology could be
>> used
>> to collect information, and then result in the instant publication of an
>> event report. But technology used that way is pure support. Might
>> technology
>> be used to extend an event?
>>
>> To my mind, Wiki dynamics don't provide a virtual mirror for the actual
>> event. I'm attracted by the idea of using Organic Groups within the Drupal
>> Content Management System. Organic Groups can be made to mirror the
>> sessions
>> which are such a basic part of OST. Anyone (after registering) can (be
>> allowed to) create an Organic Group. Organic Groups can be visible to all
>> (or kept private), but to contribute you need to join the Group. They
>> provide a reasonable virtual environment for use of the Law of Two Feet.
>>
>> The technology is inexpensive. Drupal with Organic Groups comes as an open
>> source bundle and will run on an inexpensive virtual web server. Total out
>> of pocket expense to set up and operate a site (technically powerful
>> enough
>> for thousands) would be less than $100/year.
>>
>> The virtual space can mirror the face-to-face Open Space. The dynamic will
>> be different. Depending on the participants, the virtual space may be a
>> turn-on, ... or a turn-off. But with the right group of participants, I'm
>> optimistic that Drupal with Organic Groups could be an effective virtual
>> extension of Open Space.
>>
>> Bob Fabian - www.fabian.ca
>>
>>
>
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