OSLIST Digest - 14 Jul 2010 to 15 Jul 2010 (#2010-173)
Godin Ernest
godin.ernest at gmail.com
Fri Jul 16 06:23:04 PDT 2010
It is really interesting to read about your experiences with theater and the
solo writing with OS. I am involve in documentary and interactive medias
creations.A major part of our conceptual work is done in an adaptation of
the spirit of OS.
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> Topics of the day:
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> 1. making theatre in Open Space (3)
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> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 03:37:29 -0600
> From: Stella Duffy <stell at CLARA.CO.UK>
> Subject: making theatre in Open Space
>
> hi all,=20
> I'm new to this list, having been at all of Improbable's 'Devoted &
> Disgruntled' Open Spaces led by Phelim McDermott in London in the past
> years. Some years ago, when I came to a major impasse in the editing of m=
> y
> eleventh novel, I tried editing in OS and was astonished at how useful it=
>
> was for me, alone, with my manuscript. This year I have shared OS, along
> with other practitioners, with my buddhist practice here in the UK, and m=
> ost
> recently I've been working on a new theatre project and (with Phelim's
> encouragement!)I now - shyly - share with you the report I returned to th=
> e
> National Theatre Studio who generously gave 30+ of us the space to work o=
> n
> this new project in OS.=20
> I'd be very interested in hearing from anyone else who has used OS for
> writing or where it's been used for making/devising theatre work.
> best wishes,=20
> Stella Duffy
> stelladuffy.wordpress.com
>
>
> My report to the NTS :=20
> I'm emailing to thank you all so much for your support for the Chaosbaby
> Project Open Spaces this weekend and last.=20
>
> To give you some idea of what happened, and how valuable it was :
> 36 people attended over both days (many of them came to both).
> The age range was from 21 to mid-60's.
> They were 11 actors, 2 actor-musicians, 4 actor-writers, 1
> choreographer-dancer, 6 directors, 1 designer, 1 film-maker, 2 musicians,=
> 2
> playwrights, 5 writer-directors, 1 photographer.
>
> In the two days, using the Open Space form, various groups & individuals =
> :
> - wrote a 14-page traditional/'straight' narrative for the piece
> - developed character breakdowns
> - worked on the physicality/movement for a number of characters/spaces
> - held many discussions about the nature of the piece
> - discussed the nature of chaos (as a theatrical concept, as a
> dance/movement concept, and in terms of chaos theory and mathematics)
> - created/drew up initial design ideas
> - wrote 3 new monologues
> - worked on the (two, brief) pre-existing texts
> - wrote and recorded a lullaby
> - documented the work on camera and video
> - made a puppet show, with live music accompaniment
>
> Above all, I think, we showed ourselves it is not only possible, but perh=
> aps
> preferable to work in Open Space, with a wide range of theatre-makers,
> across many disciplines, which generated an enormous amount of
> work/material, led not by a single director or writer, but by the whole -=
>
> and that in doing so it is still possible to have a cohesive idea of wha=
> t
> we are making and where best our skills might be used.=20
>
> I'm really excited about taking this on further, I especially loved that,=
>
> having met Slav (on the door, doing security) the first Saturday, he took=
>
> (wonderful) photos for us on the 2nd Saturday.=20
>
> We're looking at a full weekend/three day Open Space to further the work
> later in the year.=20
>
> I've worked in made/devised/improvised theatre for the past twenty-five
> years, this was one of the few times I've felt that it was TRULY a shared=
>
> group endeavour and not, at least in some ways, a director or writer-led
> experience. And happy though I am to work as both a director and a writer=
> , a
> working form that uses ALL the skills in the room, to the utmost that can=
> be
> offered, feels like a much better use of time, space, money and, most
> importantly, the full range of all the artists' abilities.=20=20
>
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> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:40:32 +1000
> From: Allison & Jim Baensch <mbody at iinet.net.au>
> Subject: Re: making theatre in Open Space
>
> Hi Stella,
> Good to hear you have used Open Space for writing.
> I also used it while writing a thesis recently.
> I tried to map part of the process that was going on inside my head
> in words and sketches.
> The thesis ended up being far too long and I had to cut it in half
> (several times over the many months of writing) and that section was
> left on the cutting room floor.
> But the process lifted me out of one of my 'sloughs of writing
> despond' and got me going again.
> How did you use OS for editing?
> Allison
>
> On 15/07/2010, at 7:37 PM, Stella Duffy wrote:
>
> > hi all,
> > I'm new to this list, having been at all of Improbable's 'Devoted &
> > Disgruntled' Open Spaces led by Phelim McDermott in London in the past
> > years. Some years ago, when I came to a major impasse in the
> > editing of my
> > eleventh novel, I tried editing in OS and was astonished at how
> > useful it
> > was for me, alone, with my manuscript. This year I have shared OS,
> > along
> > with other practitioners, with my buddhist practice here in the UK,
> > and most
> > recently I've been working on a new theatre project and (with Phelim's
> > encouragement!)I now - shyly - share with you the report I returned
> > to the
> > National Theatre Studio who generously gave 30+ of us the space to
> > work on
> > this new project in OS.
> > I'd be very interested in hearing from anyone else who has used OS for
> > writing or where it's been used for making/devising theatre work.
> > best wishes,
> > Stella Duffy
> > stelladuffy.wordpress.com
> >
> >
> > My report to the NTS :
> > I'm emailing to thank you all so much for your support for the
> > Chaosbaby
> > Project Open Spaces this weekend and last.
> >
> > To give you some idea of what happened, and how valuable it was :
> > 36 people attended over both days (many of them came to both).
> > The age range was from 21 to mid-60's.
> > They were 11 actors, 2 actor-musicians, 4 actor-writers, 1
> > choreographer-dancer, 6 directors, 1 designer, 1 film-maker, 2
> > musicians, 2
> > playwrights, 5 writer-directors, 1 photographer.
> >
> > In the two days, using the Open Space form, various groups &
> > individuals :
> > - wrote a 14-page traditional/'straight' narrative for the piece
> > - developed character breakdowns
> > - worked on the physicality/movement for a number of characters/spaces
> > - held many discussions about the nature of the piece
> > - discussed the nature of chaos (as a theatrical concept, as a
> > dance/movement concept, and in terms of chaos theory and mathematics)
> > - created/drew up initial design ideas
> > - wrote 3 new monologues
> > - worked on the (two, brief) pre-existing texts
> > - wrote and recorded a lullaby
> > - documented the work on camera and video
> > - made a puppet show, with live music accompaniment
> >
> > Above all, I think, we showed ourselves it is not only possible,
> > but perhaps
> > preferable to work in Open Space, with a wide range of theatre-makers,
> > across many disciplines, which generated an enormous amount of
> > work/material, led not by a single director or writer, but by the
> > whole -
> > and that in doing so it is still possible to have a cohesive idea
> > of what
> > we are making and where best our skills might be used.
> >
> > I'm really excited about taking this on further, I especially loved
> > that,
> > having met Slav (on the door, doing security) the first Saturday,
> > he took
> > (wonderful) photos for us on the 2nd Saturday.
> >
> > We're looking at a full weekend/three day Open Space to further the
> > work
> > later in the year.
> >
> > I've worked in made/devised/improvised theatre for the past twenty-
> > five
> > years, this was one of the few times I've felt that it was TRULY a
> > shared
> > group endeavour and not, at least in some ways, a director or
> > writer-led
> > experience. And happy though I am to work as both a director and a
> > writer, a
> > working form that uses ALL the skills in the room, to the utmost
> > that can be
> > offered, feels like a much better use of time, space, money and, most
> > importantly, the full range of all the artists' abilities.
> >
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> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:57:29 +0100
> From: Stella Duffy <stell at clara.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: making theatre in Open Space
>
> Hi Allison,
> I have a brief mention of it here on my writing blog :
>
> http://stelladuffy.wordpress.com/2009/01/21/editing-a-novelediting-this-nove
> l/
>
> Basically I was at a standstill, having completed the 4th draft of the
> novel, my publisher, agent and I all knew more work was needed, but none of
> us could quite get clear on what it was, and a deadline was looming, of
> course. I asked Lee Simpson of Improbable who had been part of the Devoted
> &
> Disgruntled Open Spaces to come and talk to me about it, I knew he would be
> able to hear my concerns and I trusted he'd probably have a suggestion of
> two that were of value - I think NOT asking a fellow novelist was useful
> here actually! We did some process work on what it was I was going through
> (my 11th novel! how could I be so 'stupid/inept' - my feelings - as to not
> know what to do next, etc etc), and Lee suggested it might not be so much a
> case of not knowing what to do, as not wanting to do it in the usual way.
> And that if I did actually know what to do, all I needed to do was come up
> with that agenda and then allow myself permission to work on it in OS - as
> and when I was drawn to/moved to, rather than ploughing through a list and
> grinding to a halt because it was so boring/difficult.
> So, the next day, I took some time, called about two dozen sessions - for
> myself, alone - made up my timetable and each day for the next few weeks I
> worked on what I was drawn to work on, for as long as I wanted to stay
> there. The final edit was a pleasure, the book my most successful at the
> time.
> It sounds incredibly obvious as I write it now, but at the time it felt
> like
> a huge liberation, trying a new process, one I had worked successfully for
> other forms, and giving it a go with my 'real' work.
> And a joy, of course, finding that OS had solo application!
>
> Hope that explains it a bit. As a non-planner for first drafts (I tend to
> improvise a first draft, though with some idea of beginning-middle-end) I'm
> not sure it's possible for a first draft, but I'm interested in finding out
> one day.
> All best
> Stella
>
>
>
> On 15/7/10 1:40 pm, "Allison & Jim Baensch" <mbody at iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
> > Hi Stella,
> > Good to hear you have used Open Space for writing.
> > I also used it while writing a thesis recently.
> > I tried to map part of the process that was going on inside my head
> > in words and sketches.
> > The thesis ended up being far too long and I had to cut it in half
> > (several times over the many months of writing) and that section was
> > left on the cutting room floor.
> > But the process lifted me out of one of my 'sloughs of writing
> > despond' and got me going again.
> > How did you use OS for editing?
> > Allison
> >
> > On 15/07/2010, at 7:37 PM, Stella Duffy wrote:
> >
> >> hi all,
> >> I'm new to this list, having been at all of Improbable's 'Devoted &
> >> Disgruntled' Open Spaces led by Phelim McDermott in London in the past
> >> years. Some years ago, when I came to a major impasse in the
> >> editing of my
> >> eleventh novel, I tried editing in OS and was astonished at how
> >> useful it
> >> was for me, alone, with my manuscript. This year I have shared OS,
> >> along
> >> with other practitioners, with my buddhist practice here in the UK,
> >> and most
> >> recently I've been working on a new theatre project and (with Phelim's
> >> encouragement!)I now - shyly - share with you the report I returned
> >> to the
> >> National Theatre Studio who generously gave 30+ of us the space to
> >> work on
> >> this new project in OS.
> >> I'd be very interested in hearing from anyone else who has used OS for
> >> writing or where it's been used for making/devising theatre work.
> >> best wishes,
> >> Stella Duffy
> >> stelladuffy.wordpress.com
> >>
> >>
> >> My report to the NTS :
> >> I'm emailing to thank you all so much for your support for the
> >> Chaosbaby
> >> Project Open Spaces this weekend and last.
> >>
> >> To give you some idea of what happened, and how valuable it was :
> >> 36 people attended over both days (many of them came to both).
> >> The age range was from 21 to mid-60's.
> >> They were 11 actors, 2 actor-musicians, 4 actor-writers, 1
> >> choreographer-dancer, 6 directors, 1 designer, 1 film-maker, 2
> >> musicians, 2
> >> playwrights, 5 writer-directors, 1 photographer.
> >>
> >> In the two days, using the Open Space form, various groups &
> >> individuals :
> >> - wrote a 14-page traditional/'straight' narrative for the piece
> >> - developed character breakdowns
> >> - worked on the physicality/movement for a number of characters/spaces
> >> - held many discussions about the nature of the piece
> >> - discussed the nature of chaos (as a theatrical concept, as a
> >> dance/movement concept, and in terms of chaos theory and mathematics)
> >> - created/drew up initial design ideas
> >> - wrote 3 new monologues
> >> - worked on the (two, brief) pre-existing texts
> >> - wrote and recorded a lullaby
> >> - documented the work on camera and video
> >> - made a puppet show, with live music accompaniment
> >>
> >> Above all, I think, we showed ourselves it is not only possible,
> >> but perhaps
> >> preferable to work in Open Space, with a wide range of theatre-makers,
> >> across many disciplines, which generated an enormous amount of
> >> work/material, led not by a single director or writer, but by the
> >> whole -
> >> and that in doing so it is still possible to have a cohesive idea
> >> of what
> >> we are making and where best our skills might be used.
> >>
> >> I'm really excited about taking this on further, I especially loved
> >> that,
> >> having met Slav (on the door, doing security) the first Saturday,
> >> he took
> >> (wonderful) photos for us on the 2nd Saturday.
> >>
> >> We're looking at a full weekend/three day Open Space to further the
> >> work
> >> later in the year.
> >>
> >> I've worked in made/devised/improvised theatre for the past twenty-
> >> five
> >> years, this was one of the few times I've felt that it was TRULY a
> >> shared
> >> group endeavour and not, at least in some ways, a director or
> >> writer-led
> >> experience. And happy though I am to work as both a director and a
> >> writer, a
> >> working form that uses ALL the skills in the room, to the utmost
> >> that can be
> >> offered, feels like a much better use of time, space, money and, most
> >> importantly, the full range of all the artists' abilities.
> >>
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