re honouring each other

[Sian Prime]

And for what it is worth... from here this is part of growing, absorbing new
technology and finding new ways of working..I admire fierceness and care in
a debate.

The thing that stung most was the comment about being deaf; it seemed as
though it was meant as an insult? I couldn't see that as an insult, just
showing that perhaps a different language or means of communcation might be
needed?

S

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Tree Fitzpatrick <
therese.fitzpatrick at gmail.com> wrote:

> For what it is worth, I experience Kaliya's comments as powerful, even
> courageous efforts to open space.
>
> For what it is worth, I experience Michael's comments as name-calling,
> denigrating, invalidating, dishonoring. I find myself wishing he would make
> less attack statements and more 'I' statements, telling us what he thinks
> and feels without attacking others shared thoughts and feelings.
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Karen Sella <karen at luminacoaching.com>wrote:
>
>> For what it's worth, I experienced all the comments from Michael and
>> others
>> as adding useful perspectives to the conversation--not invalidating or
>> dishonoring... just sharing yet another perspective.
>>
>> Warmly,
>> Karen
>>
>>
>>
>> Karen Sella
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>>
>> lumina fr. L. light, air, opening...
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>> Subject: [OSLIST] re honouring each other
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>> Hi Everyone,
>> I have been following this community for a while and will soon start
>> sharing info. Many thanks for all the enlivening info. I am grateful.
>> I feel the need to speak in response to Michael's comments re Kaliya's
>> thoughts.
>> OST is about staying open and positive and welcoming of all perspectives
>> and ideas, as I experience it. Critiquing and judging and saying "no" to
>> ideas stops the new, constantly self-emerging outflowing of ideas that is
>> creating a continual shared meaning among us all that excites me to no
>> end.
>>
>> All of Kaliya's ideas are valid.
>>
>> Michael, may I suggest you own your own ideas more powerfully by using
>> phrases like "in my opinion" or using the pronoun "I" rather than "you"
>> when you share your own ideas.
>>
>> ...and on with the OST dance,
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Kathie Wallace
>> Vancouver, BC, Canada
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