<div dir="ltr"><div>And for what it is worth... from here this is part of growing, absorbing new technology and finding new ways of working..I admire fierceness and care in a debate.</div>
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<div>The thing that stung most was the comment about being deaf; it seemed as though it was meant as an insult? I couldn't see that as an insult, just showing that perhaps a different language or means of communcation might be needed? </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Tree Fitzpatrick <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:therese.fitzpatrick@gmail.com">therese.fitzpatrick@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">For what it is worth, I experience Kaliya's comments as powerful, even courageous efforts to open space.<br>
<br>For what it is worth, I experience Michael's comments as name-calling, denigrating, invalidating, dishonoring. I find myself wishing he would make less attack statements and more 'I' statements, telling us what he thinks and feels without attacking others shared thoughts and feelings.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Karen Sella <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:karen@luminacoaching.com" target="_blank">karen@luminacoaching.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">For what it's worth, I experienced all the comments from Michael and others<br>as adding useful perspectives to the conversation--not invalidating or<br>
dishonoring... just sharing yet another perspective.<br><br>Warmly,<br>Karen<br><br><br><br>Karen Sella<br>Coaching: <a href="http://www.luminacoaching.com/" target="_blank">www.luminacoaching.com</a><br>Consulting: <a href="http://www.integralventures.com/" target="_blank">www.integralventures.com</a><br>
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To: <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>Subject: [OSLIST] re honouring each other<br><br>Hi Everyone,<br>I have been following this community for a while and will soon start<br>
sharing info. Many thanks for all the enlivening info. I am grateful.<br>I feel the need to speak in response to Michael's comments re Kaliya's<br>thoughts.<br>OST is about staying open and positive and welcoming of all perspectives<br>
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