teacher continuing education credits?

[Michael Herman]

very true, harrison.  that's what i have often done.  and this time, since
the question came in through the website, i just forgot.  was also rather
hoping to have some oslist company there and have a few answers posted in
response to her question, where she actually posted it, without my having to
cross post things.  m

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On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:

>  Hey Michael – a thought. When somebody asks me a question that I think is
> of broader (OSLIST wide) interest, I always suggest that they join the
> list. Point is  -- OSLIST is the record of LOTS of OS discussion and it is
> valuable as a reference. It is free – but we do expect that people will
> share. So I would hope that when people give substantive answers (and Chris
> surely did!) that all of that discussion would be available for everybody.
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> thanks, chris.  forwarding to the person who sent the question.
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> everybody else, please note that the person who asked the question is not
> on the list here.  please reply to her directly (see original message) or
> comment at the website.
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> thanks.  m
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>  On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Chris Kloth <chris at got2change.com>
> wrote:
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> Answer follows...
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> Quoting Michael Herman <michael at michaelherman.com>:
>
>
> Comment:
> I was wondering if anyone that has used open space tech for teachers or
> schools has ever tried to get the participating teachers continuing
> education credits as incentive? How did you go about this? Did it work?
> Thanks!
>
>  I have done many meetings with teachers and other educators in open space
> over the years.  On several occasions continuing education credits were
> offered as an incentive and in others they were not.  When there was a
> sufficiently compelling question that was important to those attending
> people came without the credits to do what they saw as important work.
>
>
> When CEUs were offered is was as a bonus after we clarified the compelling
> question.  I am not sure if we had more people because of the CEUs.
>
>
> I have to own a degree of ambivalence on this matter because the part of
> who I am that can be judgmental can feel judgmental about people who need
> credits before being willing to engage in important work.  My less
> judgmental side knows that, in the US, teachers are under-payed and already
> working more uncompensated hours than we have a right to demand so if CEUs
> help them get recognition or compensation they more than deserve it.
>
>
> From my perspective the key to getting the CEUs awarded was having someone
> as part of the planning team who had experience working the CEU system in
> the jurisdiction AND understood how OST works so that s/he was able and
> willing to frame the application for credits in a way that the reviewers can
> approve and to advocate for the application when there were reviewers who
> did not "get it."
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
> Shalom,
>
> Chris Kloth
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