A shaggy dog story with a tale

Fri Jul 24 14:27:42 PDT 2009

Artur – Just wonderful to hear from you. And glad you enjoyed the TED piece.

Harrison

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From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Artur
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Thanks for the link, Harrison. It saved my day! A "normal", "fully
administrative" day of an heterodoxous professor. 

And thanks for you comments, Bernd. Nice to hear from you again. Where are
you located this days: still in Mozambique (Moçambique) or back home? 

>From Portugal, in Portuguese: Um abraço amigo do

Artur

--- On Fri, 7/24/09, Bernd Weber <bernd.weber at change-facilitation.org>
wrote:

From: Bernd Weber <bernd.weber at change-facilitation.org>
Subject: Re: [OSLIST] A shaggy dog story with a tale
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Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 6:36 AM

Harrison, 

I was only lurking for a long time on this list. 

Thank you for this link

Your link gives access to very useful knowledge indeed, especially if you
work in Education, but as you mentioned: it is all about Open Space and
Change Facilitation in general. It is all about "moving out of the way and
improving the environment (coffe cups)" and it most certainly is about a
Copernican "bummer": No teachers necessary. People know what they know and
(can) learn what they need and want to learn (if they have a group and an
adequate learning setting/environment.  Selforganization does the job. I
also "read/heard" it with the ear of an OD guy who works mainly in poor
countries with people that are illiterate and often i the role of "children"
in relation to their superiors or the development project. 

If the professional community would accept this wisdom, that would really
mean a radical change. Alas, let us remember what happened with Jean-Josef
JACOTOT s (1770-1874) discovery, that everybody can learn everything without
a teacher, the professional communty tried to ignore, then to riducule and
finaly "re-interpreate" and finally disposed as waste of history. 

These awful findings. And then, just some years ago Jaques Rancièrs
published "The ignorant Schoolmaster" tries to reminds us of this historical
point in history.... and again: The knowledge is ignored. Discussion avoided
by the professional community.

To me it seems that this game is part of the "eternal fight" beween autonomy
and heteronomy, empowerment and submission, emancipation and "beeing
overwhelmed"

So thanks again, Harrison. This video-teaching was imediately useful for me.
I started forwarding it to others

Bernd Weber

P.S. From a historic point of view we should put Mr. JACOTOT  on the list of
the

I found out that you can download rancieres book (english version) at

www.mediafire.com/?mn3fjsyuond 

Am 24.07.2009 um 14:07 schrieb Harrison Owen:

A friend sent me that following
URL-http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_shows_how_kids_teach_themselves.ht
ml

It will take you to a marvelous story which may seem to have little to do
with Open Space. But if you follow the tale it may lead you to the
realization that it is all Open Space. Settle down for a 20 min journey. I
think you will find it rewarding.

Harrison

Harrison Owen

189 Beaucaire Ave

Camden,  ME  04843

207-763-3261 (Summer)

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