A shaggy dog story with a tale

Artur Silva arturfsilva at yahoo.com
Fri Jul 24 13:34:49 PDT 2009


Thanks for the link, Harrison. It saved my day! A "normal", "fully administrative" day of an heterodoxous professor. 
 
And thanks for you comments, Bernd. Nice to hear from you again. Where are you located this days: still in Mozambique (Moçambique) or back home? 
 
>From Portugal, in Portuguese: Um abraço amigo do
 
Artur
 
 

--- On Fri, 7/24/09, Bernd Weber <bernd.weber at change-facilitation.org> wrote:


From: Bernd Weber <bernd.weber at change-facilitation.org>
Subject: Re: [OSLIST] A shaggy dog story with a tale
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 6:36 AM


Harrison,


I was only lurking for a long time on this list. 


Thank you for this link


Your link gives access to very useful knowledge indeed, especially if you work in Education, but as you mentioned: it is all about Open Space and Change Facilitation in general. It is all about "moving out of the way and improving the environment (coffe cups)" and it most certainly is about a Copernican "bummer": No teachers necessary. People know what they know and (can) learn what they need and want to learn (if they have a group and an adequate learning setting/environment.  Selforganization does the job. I also "read/heard" it with the ear of an OD guy who works mainly in poor countries with people that are illiterate and often i the role of "children" in relation to their superiors or the development project. 


If the professional community would accept this wisdom, that would really mean a radical change. Alas, let us remember what happened with Jean-Josef JACOTOT s (1770-1874) discovery, that everybody can learn everything without a teacher, the professional communty tried to ignore, then to riducule and finaly "re-interpreate" and finally disposed as waste of history. 
These awful findings. And then, just some years ago Jaques Rancièrs published "The ignorant Schoolmaster" tries to reminds us of this historical point in history.... and again: The knowledge is ignored. Discussion avoided by the professional community.


To me it seems that this game is part of the "eternal fight" beween autonomy and heteronomy, empowerment and submission, emancipation and "beeing overwhelmed"


So thanks again, Harrison. This video-teaching was imediately useful for me. I started forwarding it to others









Bernd Weber
P.S. From a historic point of view we should put Mr. JACOTOT  on the list of the
I found out that you can download rancieres book (english version) at
www.mediafire.com/?mn3fjsyuond 







Am 24.07.2009 um 14:07 schrieb Harrison Owen:




A friend sent me that following URL-http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_shows_how_kids_teach_themselves.html
 
It will take you to a marvelous story which may seem to have little to do with Open Space. But if you follow the tale it may lead you to the realization that it is all Open Space. Settle down for a 20 min journey. I think you will find it rewarding.
 
Harrison
 
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