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w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Artur Silva</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, July 24, 2009 4:35
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: A shaggy dog story
with a tale</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks for the link, <st1:place w:st="on">Harrison</st1:place>.
It saved my day! A "normal", "fully administrative" day
of an heterodoxous professor. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>And thanks for you comments, Bernd. Nice to hear
from you again. Where are you located this days: still in <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Mozambique</st1:place></st1:country-region>
(Moçambique) or back home? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>From <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Portugal</st1:place></st1:country-region>,
in Portuguese: Um abraço amigo do<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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--- On <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Fri, 7/24/09, Bernd Weber <i><span
style='font-style:italic'><bernd.weber@change-facilitation.org></span></i></span></b>
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From: Bernd Weber <bernd.weber@change-facilitation.org><br>
Subject: Re: [<st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>] A shaggy dog
story with a tale<br>
To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 6:36 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Harrison</span></font></st1:place>, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I was only lurking for a long time on this
list. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Thank you for this link<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Your link gives access to very useful knowledge
indeed, especially if you work in Education, but as you mentioned: it is all
about Open Space and Change Facilitation in general. It is all about
"moving out of the way and improving the environment (coffe cups)"
and it most certainly is about a Copernican "bummer": No teachers
necessary. People know what they know and (can) learn what they need and want
to learn (if they have a group and an adequate learning setting/environment.
Selforganization does the job. I also "read/heard" it with
the ear of an OD guy who works mainly in poor countries with people that are
illiterate and often i the role of "children" in relation to their
superiors or the development project. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>If the professional community would accept this
wisdom, that would really mean a radical change. Alas, let us remember what
happened with Jean-Josef JACOTOT s (1770-1874) discovery, that everybody can
learn everything without a teacher, the professional communty tried to
ignore, then to riducule and finaly "re-interpreate" and finally
disposed as waste of history. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>These awful findings. And then, just some years ago
Jaques Rancièrs published "The ignorant Schoolmaster" tries to
reminds us of this historical point in history.... and again: The knowledge
is ignored. Discussion avoided by the professional community.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>To me it seems that this game is part of the
"eternal fight" beween autonomy and heteronomy, empowerment and
submission, emancipation and "beeing overwhelmed"<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>So thanks again, <st1:place w:st="on">Harrison</st1:place>.
This video-teaching was imediately useful for me. I started forwarding it to
others<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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From a historic point of view we should put Mr. JACOTOT on the list of
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face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:6.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>I
found out that you can download rancieres book (english version) at</span></font></span><font
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24.07.2009 um 14:07 schrieb Harrison Owen:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><span
style='WIDOWS: 2;ORPHANS: 2;word-spacing:0px'>A friend sent me that following
URL-<a
href="http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_shows_how_kids_teach_themselves.html"
target="_blank">http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_shows_how_kids_teach_themselves.html</a></span></font><font
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>It will take you to a
marvelous story which may seem to have little to do with Open Space. But if
you follow the tale it may lead you to the realization that it is all Open
Space. Settle down for a 20 min journey. I think you will find it rewarding.</span></font><font
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