An Invitation. . .

[Harrison Owen]

Dear friends - I am not quite sure what made me do it, but I have started a
blog (www.hhowen.blogspot.com). Truth is I really love to write and I've
sworn off books. I am not sure how it will really work, but at the moment it
sort of feels like something I did 25 years ago, which I called "occasional
papers." I have called this one, Work-in-Progress, and it is definitely
that. You are invited, and comments are always welcome.

Harrison

Harrison Owen
7808 River Falls Drive
Potomac, Maryland   20854
Phone 301-365-2093
Skype hhowen
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>From  Mon Feb 16 07:09:53 2009
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 07:09:53 -0800
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From: Patricia Haines <levelgreeninstitute at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Creation
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Seems to me that Darwin's theory is all about a self-organizing world. What astronomers know of the universe ditto. I am a person of faith and have no difficulty with whatever creation story one begins with, since they all posit a self-organizing systems after the first moment.

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--- On Mon, 2/16/09, Ralph Copleman <rcopleman at comcast.net> wrote:

> From: Ralph Copleman <rcopleman at comcast.net>
> Subject: [OSLIST] Creation
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 9:54 AM
> If we say we live in a self-organizing universe, and if we
> also say there is no such thing as a non-self-organizing
> system, then where does that leave us with regard to the
> biblical creation story of the original seven days -- which
> seems to lay down holy word that it is possible create a
> comprehensive order out of nothing?
> 
> It's irrelevant that the biblical story may or may not
> be literally true.  We must recognize the impact this
> version of creation has had on our collective consciousness
> in the West, if not all over the world.  This model of
> order-out-of-chaos dominates most, if not all our modern
> institutions.  It lays the framework for how we see the
> world and how we seek to relate to it, its systems, and itc
> challenges.  It's the pattern for government, business,
> education, community development, religion, etc.  It even
> dictates how we shall relate to Earth itself.
> 
> When we ask people to accept the belief that there is no
> such thing as a non-self-organizing system, aren't we
> saying, "The story we have all lived by, whether we
> consciously realize it or not, is wrong, profoundly
> inaccurate, and dangerous"?
> 
> Ralph
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