Monthly Asia Call: too little interest
Jo Toepfer
jotoepfer at boscop.org
Tue Oct 7 06:00:31 PDT 2008
Dear Gijs,
another gift of OST: to stop a activity and be happy about it! Thank you
for the relief (Since I was one of the people who expressed general
interest but than never mad it to one of the calls.).
doing less creates spaces
Jo
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Gijs van Wezel schrieb:
> The monthly Asia call had only a few participants in Aug and Sept. For tomorrow
> only Funda was available, but the topics reflect little urgency.
> Gail from Taiwan phrased it as follows:
> "It doesn't seem to be working for me - how
> about others? I wonder if, like OS events, if there isn't something
> urgent I really care about at the moment, nothing happens. What
> I'm most interested in these days (and for the next few months) is
> how it's going with the Wave Trek, what people are planning and what
> they are learning as they go along."
>
> For this reason, I will stop the calls.
>
>
>
> Gijs van Wezel, MSc
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> Quoting funda oral <fundaoral2003 at yahoo.com>:
>
>>
>> Hi Olga,
>>
>> You are facilitating very short ost meetings. Here in Turkey, I am also asked
>> to organize ost meetings for 2-3 hrs. I facilitated 3-4 short time meetings.
>> As OST is the best and most efficient way to organize a meeting, all of them
>> were very succesful.
>>
>> Then i facilitated other meetings organized by OST which took longer time.
>>
>> I think in one day OST meetings ( 6-7-8 hours), conversations get deeper,
>> the frienship
>> increases. In 2-3 days OST meetings the probability that people get organized
>> and take action to make some changes together increases.
>>
>> The subject of your meeting, "Evaluating the Effectiveness of Trainings”
>> is quite interesting. I guess due to the short time available, only the cost
>> pertspective was discussed during the meeting. Given longer time, many
>> another perspectives would have been discussed.
>>
>> Welcome,
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Funda
>>
>> --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Îëüãà Çîëîòàðåâà <zoloolga at rambler.ru> wrote:
>>
>> From: Îëüãà Çîëîòàðåâà <zoloolga at rambler.ru>
>> Subject: Hello
>> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
>> Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 1:02 AM
>>
>> Hello everyone!
>> My name is Olga, I currently live and work in Moscow. In 2005 I
>> came across OST for the first time, while I working in a
>> telecommunications company. In 2006, I was a participant of an OST
>> meeting in St. Petersburg led by Raffi Aftandelian. Then I started to
>> use this approach in my workshops. I want to thank Raffi for helping me
>> see how OST and OS principles can inform my training approach. Also,
>> I’d like to thank him for information about OSLIST. It helps me
>> to acquire additional experience and find answers to my questions.
>> This year I have been using OST as a part of my workshops.
>> Usually I offer a three hours OST meeting towards the end of each two
>> day workshop. These short OST meetings are an opportunity for
>> participants to talk about those things around which they have a real
>> passion.
>> Also in August this year I conducted an OST meeting for a
>> corporate training club in Voronezh, a provincial city near Moscow. The
>> theme of meeting was “Evaluating the Effectiveness of
>> Trainings.” I think this kind of meeting is very important for
>> corporate Russian training sector. It was interesting to hear different
>> opinions about the evaluation of business education. Many participants
>> thought that many evaluation approaches are impossible as they require
>> lots of resources: time, money, people to do the work. And often the
>> evaluation ends up being more resource-intensive than the actual
>> training, be it short or long-term.
>> The meeting of corporate trainers lasted just three hours; the
>> sessions lasted for one hour. And the trainers spent the whole time
>> together.
>> Thanks for everything.
>> Greetings from Moscow,
>> Olga.
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Harrison Owen in Berlin
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