Monthly Asia Call: too little interest

Gijs van Wezel gijs at megainternational.com.hk
Sat Oct 4 23:06:26 PDT 2008


The monthly Asia call had only a few participants in Aug and Sept. For tomorrow
only Funda was available, but the topics reflect little urgency.
Gail from Taiwan phrased it as follows:
"It doesn't seem to be working for me - how
about others?  I  wonder if, like OS events, if there isn't something
urgent I really care about at the moment, nothing happens.    What
I'm most interested in these days (and for the next few months) is
how it's  going with the Wave Trek, what people are planning and what
they are learning as they go along."

For this reason, I will stop the calls.



Gijs van Wezel, MSc
Mega Partners Int'l (China)
Open Space Group Facilitation

www.megainternational.com.hk
www.openspaceworld.org
Shanghai, China

+86-21-64061336
+86-15921806910
skype: gysgys





Quoting funda oral <fundaoral2003 at yahoo.com>:

>
>
> Hi Olga,
>  
> You are facilitating very short ost meetings. Here in Turkey, I am also asked
> to organize ost meetings for 2-3 hrs. I facilitated 3-4 short time meetings.
> As OST is the best and most efficient way to organize a meeting, all of them
> were very succesful.
>  
> Then i facilitated other meetings organized by OST which took longer time.
>  
> I think  in one day OST meetings  ( 6-7-8 hours), conversations get deeper,
> the frienship
> increases. In 2-3 days OST meetings the probability that people get organized
> and take action to make some changes together increases.
>  
> The subject of your meeting,   "Evaluating the Effectiveness of Trainings” 
> is quite interesting. I guess due to the short time available, only the cost
> pertspective was discussed during the meeting. Given longer time, many
> another perspectives would have been discussed.
>  
> Welcome,
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Funda              
>
> --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Îëüãà Çîëîòàðåâà <zoloolga at rambler.ru> wrote:
>
> From: Îëüãà Çîëîòàðåâà <zoloolga at rambler.ru>
> Subject: Hello
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 1:02 AM
>
> Hello everyone!
> 	My name is Olga, I currently live and work in Moscow. In 2005 I
> came across OST for the first time, while I working in a
> telecommunications company.  In 2006, I was a participant of an OST
> meeting in St. Petersburg led by Raffi Aftandelian. Then I started to
> use this approach in my workshops. I want to thank Raffi for helping me
> see how OST and OS principles can inform  my training approach. Also,
> I’d like to thank him for information about OSLIST. It  helps me
> to acquire additional experience and find answers to my questions.
> 	This year I have been using OST as a part of my workshops.
> Usually I offer a three hours OST meeting towards the end of each two
> day workshop. These short OST meetings are an opportunity for
> participants to talk about those things around which they have a real
> passion.
> 	Also in August this year I conducted an OST meeting for a
> corporate training club in Voronezh, a provincial city near Moscow. The
> theme of meeting was “Evaluating the Effectiveness of
> Trainings.” I think this kind of meeting is very important for
> corporate Russian training sector. It was interesting to hear different
> opinions about the evaluation of business education. Many participants
> thought that many evaluation approaches are impossible as they require
> lots of resources: time, money, people to do the work. And often the
> evaluation ends up being more resource-intensive than the actual
> training, be it short or long-term.
> 	The meeting of corporate trainers lasted just three hours; the
> sessions lasted for one hour. And the trainers spent the whole time
> together.
> 	Thanks for everything.
> 	Greetings from Moscow,
> 	Olga.
>
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