Poetry Contest votes due Tuesday

Jeff Aitken magic.teams at hotmail.com
Sat Oct 11 12:55:35 PDT 2008


OSLIST POETRY CELEBRATION AND CONTEST
Sept/Oct 2008

A few days ago I posted our ten wonderful poems for your enjoyment - and for our semi-annual Poetry Contest.

The Contest works like this: We use the "dot-voting" method. As a member of OSLIST you have 5 virtual sticky dots to vote for poems. Choose how many of your 5 dots to give to each poem (the poem's number is above the poem) and SEND YOUR VOTES TO ME ONLY, NOT TO THE LIST:

magic.teams at hotmail.com

The deadline for sending your sticky dots is midnight California time, TUESDAY, OCTOBER 14.

I will tally the dots and announce the new Poet Laureate, and send the poems out again with the authors' names.

Jeff
Telegraph Hill
San Francisco


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i suggest=A0one=A0topic=A0to the market of=A0open space=A0world :=A0
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- how we can get organized to stop hunger and war in our world by next mont=
h?
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Funda


--- On Wed, 10/8/08, John Rapp <jfs.rapp at gmail.com> wrote:

From: John Rapp <jfs.rapp at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: wondering continued
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 9:04 PM




For those of us who have spent a few years in Deep Kimchi -- and spent seri=
ous time experiencing the "bottom billion" poorest people in the world, who=
se kimchi is often all they have -- the biggest difference=A0between the "f=
ree" markets, and=A0True Open Space, is that the free markets do not=A0read=
ily=A0support=A0The Law of=A0Two Feet.=A0 Have you noticed how many more pr=
ofessional butterflies and bumblebees we see these days?=A0 So many Wonderf=
ul=A0Beings (incl. many of you) are=A0seeking, persistently, to, somehow,=
=A0"get off the grid" ... mostly without a great deal of success.=A0 For th=
is world is, increasingly, dominated by the Powers of which Jesus=A0and oth=
er seers have so often warned us.
=A0
Space Opens only with Form.=A0 Our "free world" and "free" markets -- when =
they work -- bristle with unseen protections.=A0 Could you open an effectiv=
e Marketplace in non-Green Baghdad?=A0 In 1980s Beirut?=A0 I wonder sometim=
es if we=A0forget how harsh a form-free world may be.
=A0=A0=A0=A0

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:06 AM, Martin Boroson <marty at becomingme.com> wrote=
:




Thank you all, for deepening my wondering.
=A0
I was especially struck by Harrison's comment that capitalism and the marke=
t are not synonymous.=A0 And by those of you who spoke about the listening =
and connectivity that emerges in Open Space.=A0 =A0=A0
=A0
Some continued wonderings, influenced by yours:
=A0
a. Perhaps the so-called 'free market' is indeed an Open Space, just much m=
uch bigger than any Open Space that any of us has facilitated.=A0 And witho=
ut a clear beginning or end, it's taking us a long time to experience the c=
onnectivity and sense of responsibility that happens relatively quickly in =
a more defined Open Space.
=A0
b.=A0 Maybe the thing that invokes connectivity in an Open Space is the pre=
sence of a question or theme.=A0 In an Open Space, we all gather together w=
ith a shared concern or intention, and I suspect that this certainly tilts =
the odds toward some kind of climax or resolution, and to experiencing some=
 sense of connectivity through common discovery.=A0 The 'free market', by c=
ontrast, has the freedom of Open Space but not the shared intention.
=A0
c.=A0 Putting (a) and (b) together:=A0 Maybe the free market is actually an=
 enormous Open Space, but we just don't know what the question is yet.=A0 =
=A0Maybe, because this enormous Open Space has no clear starting point or e=
nding point, it is taking us a long time to hear one another and realize th=
at we are all connected, and that we really do have a common question.=A0 =
=A0Maybe we are just starting to discern the underlying question that calle=
d us to participate in this enormous Open Space.=A0 Maybe that question is:=
=A0 How can we share resources equitably on this small planet?=A0 =A0Or sim=
ply, =A0How can 'separate selves' live together in peace? =A0And maybe we a=
re starting to discern that there might be, after all, a time limit.
=A0
Marty
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<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><DIV>i suggest one topic to the market of open space world : </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>- how we can get organized to stop hunger and war in our world by next month?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Funda</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Wed, 10/8/08, John Rapp <I><jfs.rapp at gmail.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">From: John Rapp <jfs.rapp at gmail.com><BR>Subject: Re: wondering continued<BR>To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR>Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 9:04 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=yiv166160929>
<DIV dir=ltr>
<DIV>For those of us who have spent a few years in Deep Kimchi -- and spent serious time experiencing the "bottom billion" poorest people in the world, whose kimchi is often all they have -- the biggest difference between the "free" markets, and True Open Space, is that the free markets do not readily support The Law of Two Feet.  Have you noticed how many more professional butterflies and bumblebees we see these days?  So many Wonderful Beings (incl. many of you) are seeking, persistently, to, somehow, "get off the grid" ... mostly without a great deal of success.  For this world is, increasingly, dominated by the Powers of which Jesus and other seers have so often warned us.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Space Opens only with Form.  Our "free world" and "free" markets -- when they work -- bristle with unseen protections.  Could you open an effective Marketplace in non-Green Baghdad?  In 1980s Beirut?  I wonder sometimes if we forget how harsh a form-free world may be.</DIV>
<DIV>    <BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:06 AM, Martin Boroson <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:marty at becomingme.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>marty at becomingme.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
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<DIV><FONT face="Book Antiqua" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thank you all, for deepening my wondering.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Book Antiqua" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Book Antiqua" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I was especially struck by Harrison's comment that capitalism and the market are not synonymous.  And by those of you who spoke about the listening and connectivity that emerges in Open Space.    </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Book Antiqua" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Book Antiqua" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Some continued wonderings, influenced by yours:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Book Antiqua" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Book Antiqua" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">a. Perhaps the so-called 'free market' is indeed an Open Space, just much much bigger than any Open Space that any of us has facilitated.  And without a clear beginning or end, it's taking us a long time to experience the connectivity and sense of responsibility that happens relatively quickly in a more defined Open Space.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Book Antiqua" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Book Antiqua" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">b.  Maybe the thing that invokes connectivity in an Open Space is the presence of a question or theme.  In an Open Space, we all gather together with a shared concern or intention, and I suspect that this certainly tilts the odds toward some kind of climax or resolution, and to experiencing some sense of connectivity through common discovery.  The 'free market', by contrast, has the freedom of Open Space but not the shared intention.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Book Antiqua" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Book Antiqua" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">c.  Putting (a) and (b) together:  Maybe the free market is actually an enormous Open Space, <I><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic">but</SPAN></I> <I><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic">we just don't know what the question is yet</SPAN></I>.   Maybe, because this enormous Open Space has no clear starting point or ending point, it is taking us a long time to hear one another and realize that we are all connected, and that we really do have a common question.   Maybe we are just starting to discern the underlying question that called us to participate in this enormous Open Space.  Maybe that question is:  <I><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic">How can we share resources equitably on this small planet?  </SPAN></I> Or simply,  <I><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic">How can 'separate selves' live together in peace?  </SPAN></I>And maybe we are
 starting to discern that there might be, after all, a time limit.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Book Antiqua" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Book Antiqua" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Marty</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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