Question - bilingual opening

[avner]

And just to add to Michael Panwitz map of experiencing, about a year ago 
together with Fuad Abu Hamed, we opened a space in Arabic and Hebrew in 
Jerusalem. We were walking separately in the one circle, sometimes he was 
leading in Arabic and sometimes I did in Hebrew, we didn`t translate but we 
kept the rythem. It was fun and well received

Avner Haramati
Jerusalem

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From: "Corbaz Catherine" <c.corbaz at hispeed.ch>
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Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: Question - bilingual opening


> Hello, everybody,
> Last year i did it in french with a German speaking colleague, who  also 
> facilitates OST. It went on well, maybe a bit long. With my  colleague, 
> the one who speaking walked , then stop,went at the rim of  the circle and 
> the other one went on. so everyone say it in its own  words, walking 
> rhythm, etc. We were not translating.
>
> I also have done it alternatively speaking french and German, which  was 
> conformable.
>
> Your idea to have to circles, seems to me interesting, however it  means 
> that they group speaking french should not be to small  regarding the 
> other group. Worth a try.
>
> I'll keep your idea or next opportunity.
>
> Catherine Corbaz
> Facilitation & Forum ouvert
> Roseaux 20
> CH-2503 Bienne
> +41 32 323 38 43
> +41 79 794 38 55
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>
>
>
> Le 24 mai 07 à 14:28, Communications Esther Matte a écrit :
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Yes, it was a great conference with Deb at Rococo. People there  were 
>> really impressed with OS. Hopefully, we'll gather a few people  for our 
>> FoFo in Val David this fall :-)
>>
>> Deb and I learned a lot, of course, as we do every time we  facilitate 
>> OS. One of the questions we played with was the  bilingual opening. We 
>> briefly considered doing the opening  together, each in one language, but 
>> quickly realized we couldn't  walk the circle together. So we cut down on 
>> the opening text so  that Deb could do it systematically in both 
>> languages (French and  English). And she did a great job! However, it was 
>> still too long.  Later in the event, people started to ask that we do 
>> just English  since everyone there understood. But we were in Montreal 
>> after all,  so Deb maintained the French, and the organizers were happy 
>> about  that. They wanted to hold a bilingual event and they wanted the 
>> French to be present.
>>
>> Now that I think about it, I'm wondering if we could have done two 
>> circles just for the opening. To put people in the OS frame of mind  and 
>> spirit in their own language. Then, merge the 2 in 1 circle,  have them 
>> look around it, feel the energy and richness of  knowledge, experience, 
>> etc. and then start the agenda. For the  other circles, keep the 
>> bilingual format, but with bits of French  here and there instead of 
>> systematic translation.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Looking forward to reading your thoughts :-))
>>
>> Esther
>>
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From: Pat Black [mailto:patoitextiles at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 7:17 PM
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Subject: Re: doing self-organization

I am in total agreement that we can work with or we can get in the way
of it and inhibit the it.  I guess what I was saying that it requires
no work to sustain it.  We actually have to expend more energy to get
in the way of it and inhibit it.  I totally agree that OS is a way to
get out of the way of our it and let it flow.  I just think we are
actually conserving energy doing that rather than expending it.
pat

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