Michael Pannwitz's comment about OSonOS 2008 in Berlin

Fri Jan 19 09:14:12 PST 2007

Unfortunately, I have not been to any International OSonOS, not for lack
of desire, but for a variety of other reasons, so I can't speak from
experience.  However, I have heard the stories, and descriptions of the
traditions, and have listened to (at least some of) the community.  
Maybe it is time to find a different way to "decide" where to go?  I
would really like to reach out and see if this or other on-line
communities would be interested in participating in that choice
differently.  I would also think that for some (me included if I'd be
part of a hosting group), it might be good to have a couple of years
lead-time to prepare, for others, that might make it easier to come.
Having the "virtual" connections everywhere is also an attractive idea
AND, I'd like to have the very real, person to person connection with
people from all over the world that I like so much about OSonOS.  Then
again, that might just be a very European/American desire that nobody
truly shares and whatever happens...

Either way, I'd like to hear ... if anything imaginable were possible,
what would an international OSonOS gathering look like?

>From an astonishingly balmy London that is apparently recovering from
the severe storms that blew over northern Europe yesterday.
Claudia 

-----Original Message-----
From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian
S Bainbridge
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:21 PM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: Michael Pannwitz's comment about OSonOS 2008 in Berlin

I was one of the very tiny number of real "overseas" persons at the
Moscow
OSonOS in 2006.
As the closing session dragged on, it seemed pointless to express
further
opinions about the importance of OSonOS being an "International"
gathering,
so I ended up saying nothing.
It seemed to me that most of those present did not know - and hence were
perhaps unable to honour - the pattern that has emerged in recent years
of
"moving across the sea". And a 2008 Berlin gathering - which would have
to
be very good to match the earlier OSonOS in Potsdam - would also not
address
that pattern, IMHO. But I am just one voice in the gathering of
participants.
Though we have yet to receive any meaningful information about travel
arrangements, accommodation options, costs, hosting, language
challenges,
local transport, visa requirements for international visitors, local
security and safety factors, catering, computing options, airport
procedures, etc (which will no doubt emerge on January 21 as promised),
I
most certainly hope to be present in Kiev (or wherever the gathering
occurs), and have tentative travel plans in place now.
After Kiev - I would hope a less-than-European site might emerge, and
then
back to Europe/Asia after that, perhaps. Maybe Edinburgh or Berlin.
Just an observation from a long way away.
Cheers and blessings,   BRIAN (from Melbourne, Australia)

Fr Brian S. Bainbridge
0412 111 525
Skype: briansbain

-----Original Message-----
From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Thomas
Herrmann
Sent: Friday, 19 January 2007 10:16 AM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: SV: Michael Pannwitz's comment about OSonOS 2008 in Berlin

I agree with you Lisa, to me it´s a very rich and refreshing opportunity
to
come to the International OSonOS each year when I can. I also think that
the
international community gains from having it swimming across oceans. So
better bring your irresistible offer to Kiev...and we´ll see what
happens.

And why not plan a mid-term global-virtual-OSonOS happening in all the
regions of the world - connected in faboulus ways... whoever has the
passion
for getting it started...go for it. Maybe for 2008 we could plan
regional
gatherings the same date but in that case my suggestion is, not too
close to
the International physical OSonOS - wherever that´s gonna be.

Warmest regards to you Lisa and everyone else
Thomas Herrmann

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Från: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] För Marei Kiele
Skickat: den 18 januari 2007 19:22
Till: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Ämne: Re: Michael Pannwitz's comment about OSonOS 2008 in Berlin

Hello folks,

I have been silent on this list for a while and I am only writing a 
short comment on this topic.

I have been to Halifax and loved the decision making process there ~ and

"voted" for Moscow in the end. I didn't go because something else became

more important to me. When I heard that in Moscow the decision was Kiev 
I thought: "Geographically that's pretty ("too") close ~ okay, those who

cared where there and decided ~ don't complain, Marei."
Last weekend I participated in the "Lernwerkstatt" in Berlin and there I

heard about the plan to host the next OSonOS in Berlin and my immediate 
reaction was "NO, this would be incest!!"

So I strongly support the tradition of having THE OSonOS moving around 
the world. And I can tell you, having it in Berlin would be very 
comfortable for me, just 2,5 hours by train. But I rather make sure the 
community stays intercontinental and we have rich annual OSonOSes all 
around the world.

And regarding having international OSonOSes at the same time: In OS I 
love the movement of morning news / evening news (whole group) and 
breakout session (small groups). If it was only breakout sessions I 
would miss a lot. As I would with many OSonOSes all over the world.

HO (meant the North American Native Indian way).

Marei

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