[Fwd: Re: an interesting meeting in Berlin]

[Funda Oral]

Hi Chris it's nice to hear from you.

Michael, having read all these i still want to imagine that an open space 
meeting
would be possible there, sometime.

If  it was an OST meeting,  many people would tell that it was a show, but 
still
it would have been a better show.

With the same money, they would be able to do many more ost meetings and 
better
publicity.

Juliane, Chris, Michael, and everybody,

It's wonderful to discuss this event with you here in the OSList,
to be able to create a global discussion here.

Funda

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael M Pannwitz" <mmpanne at boscop.de>
To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: an interesting meeting in Berlin]


> Yesterday there were some more details about the gathering (page 3 of the 
> local part of the paper), today nothing, but I am sure there will be more 
> on the day itself.
> More details_
> -there will be 112 "Weise" (translation?)
> -there will be 100, still "secret" questions selected by a polling with 
> final decision with the organizers (Allianz control...for those of you who 
> wonder what Allianz is, probably one of the worlds largest insurance 
> firms...they earn their money by betting that I will live long and me 
> betting that I will die soon, the odds are on their side)
> -for each question there will be 3 minutes to answer (so it will take 300 
> minutes, 6 hours plus breaks)
> -each question is answered by all 112 simultaneously in their 
> mothertongues (entered into 112 microphones and filmed by 112 cameras)
> -the onlookers will hear almost none of this, just a murmur of 112 people 
> speaking simultaneously...
> -two people are in the center of the arrangement and read the questions
>
> Apart from being a fairly odd setting with no communication between the 
> 112 or them and the crowd watching the name chosen for the setting "Runder 
> Tisch" demonstrates, at least for Germans and especially Berliners the 
> political insensitivity and historical disconnectednes of this show. 
> "Runder Tisch" was the setting between the Fall of the Wall and 
> reunification where people of all walks of life gathered and worked on 
> developing a culture of democratic dialogue and decision making in the 
> newly emerging Germany.
>
> For the TAZ, a fairly critical paper, unlike the TS which I read 
> (burgeois), the whole show is a monstrous advertising campaign for Allianz 
> with a lot of glitz and technology...
>
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
>
> Dr. Christian M. Kemper wrote:
>> Dear Juliane,
>> a year ago when I first heard about this idea I met the people behind a 
>> few times and also proposed using the money for another meeting design. 
>> Well, they and the main sponsor (Allianz insurance) wanted to keep the 
>> control... ;-)
>> Hope that your efforts have more success than mine :-)
>> Blessings,
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> 2006/9/5, juliane neumann <lialio at web.de <mailto:lialio at web.de>>:
>>
>>     Hi Funda,
>>
>>     today we had our stammtisch in Berlin and we discussed of course
>>     this "interesting meeting" and there were some people ready to
>>     attend the meeting and propose to the organizers an open space for
>>     their next event- with the money they are used to spend they can do
>>     something big. will keep you informed about their answer.
>>
>>     cheers,
>>
>>     Juliane
>>
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