an interesting meeting in Berlin]

Harrison Owen hhowen at adelphia.net
Mon Sep 4 05:44:06 PDT 2006


Thanks to my increasing myopia (doubtless due to sins past and present) I did in fact miss the URL. small print! is the root of all evil!! But I love you Funda!!!

And Michael -- you captured my feeling exactly when it come to events like this. Doubtless it will be a marvelous show, but as an advance of real knowledge, and more importantly the application of that knowledge, I rather think it will come up short. The "Expert Syndrome" one more time. Old joke about the definition of "expert" -- "a has been under pressure." Some truth there, I think.

Harrison

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael M Pannwitz 
  To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU 
  Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 4:12 AM
  Subject: [Fwd: Re: an interesting meeting in Berlin]


  Dear list,
  yesterday, I did send the note below to ho who had not discovered the 
  link and entered my esteemed opinion on this project.
  Its in the local Berlin paper again today with a long report on how they 
  are creating two setups, one indoor for rain and one outdoor for sunny 
  weather...its quite a huge table coated with a very fancy and expensive 
  material that can also be written on...they have already approached the 
  Guinness Book of World Records for the largest round table ever...and I 
  wouldnt be surprised if they cut it up in pieces and auction it off as 
  they did with other local objects like the Berlin Wall....and, of 
  course, there is going to be a video where you can see all of them 
  simultaneously answering questions...

  To me this is a good example for the paradigm "Experts solve Problems" 
  (Taylor, Scientific management)which dominated the art between 1900 and 
  1950, followed by a phase of "Everybody solves Problems" (Group Problem 
  Solving, Lewin etc.) which in recent years, under the influence of 
  Systems Thinking, has been changing since 1965 into "Experts improve 
  whole systems" and, more recently, with the development of approaches 
  such as Open Space, Future Search, etc., into "Everybody improves whole 
  systems".
  I dont think that an approach long shown to be useless for the 
  challenges we are facing now improves through technology that makes it 
  available instantaneously, worldwide...
  Still, its a fascinating show that definitely is marketed in an 
  effective mode...
  So, for me its back to practicing Open Space Technology!
  Greetings from Berlin
  mmp



  -------- Original Message --------
  Subject: Re: an interesting meeting in Berlin
  Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:18:25 +0200
  From: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpanne at boscop.de>
  To: Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
  References: <00ec01c6cf96$7c0ba5e0$0201a8c0 at fundao0ngpntt7> 
  <002601c6cfaa$86112ba0$b2f13018 at holaptop>

  click on the link she supplied, its a little hard to see for old men like me
  it was in the local Berlin paper today and I consider it to be a
  fabulous piece of bullshit,
  especially since they definitely forgot to include THIS
  great mind
  Tables have been out for some time...
  Greetings from Berlin
  mmp

  Harrison Owen wrote:
  > OK Funda. You are indeed the "mystery woman." No more mysterious than 
  > now. . . What interesting meeting in Berlin????
  >  
  > ho
  > Harrison Owen
  > 7808 River Falls Dr.
  > Potomac, MD  20854
  > USA
  > 301-365-2093
  > 207-763-3261 (summer)
  > website www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
  > Personal Website www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com>
  > 
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