[Fwd: Re: an interesting meeting in Berlin]

Funda Oral fundaoral at ttnet.net.tr
Mon Sep 4 10:31:30 PDT 2006


"How can this meeting be used to create more conversation ~ not less?" says Zelle

this is also an excellent question.

the good thing about this event is that at least it starts with the questions. 

funda


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Zelle Nelson 
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  Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: an interesting meeting in Berlin]


  Hello Harrison, Michael, Funda, Nancy, and Everyone,


  There are many thoughtful ideas here, thank you.


  Nancy has an excellent point. I believe the round table with "experts" is simply a dynamic invitation disguised as an event. The real process is an experiment in creating worldwide online dialogue using the round table/expert/media event as a way to draw attention to 600 questions of importance, while building a digital report of the ongoing conversation(s).


  I believe that building on this idea would provide a greater jumping off point.


  Why not find a question of the 600 that sparks your soul and create an invitation into Open Space around that invitation, or support the idea of invitation and conversation, or create your own question, or continue opening space as you all so beautifully do?


  How can this meeting be used to create more conversation ~ not less?


  with grace and love,


  Zelle


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  On Sep 4, 2006, at 4:12 AM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:


    Dear list,
    yesterday, I did send the note below to ho who had not discovered the link and entered my esteemed opinion on this project.
    Its in the local Berlin paper again today with a long report on how they are creating two setups, one indoor for rain and one outdoor for sunny weather...its quite a huge table coated with a very fancy and expensive material that can also be written on...they have already approached the Guinness Book of World Records for the largest round table ever...and I wouldnt be surprised if they cut it up in pieces and auction it off as they did with other local objects like the Berlin Wall....and, of course, there is going to be a video where you can see all of them simultaneously answering questions...


    To me this is a good example for the paradigm "Experts solve Problems" (Taylor, Scientific management)which dominated the art between 1900 and 1950, followed by a phase of "Everybody solves Problems" (Group Problem Solving, Lewin etc.) which in recent years, under the influence of Systems Thinking, has been changing since 1965 into "Experts improve whole systems" and, more recently, with the development of approaches such as Open Space, Future Search, etc., into "Everybody improves whole systems".
    I dont think that an approach long shown to be useless for the challenges we are facing now improves through technology that makes it available instantaneously, worldwide...
    Still, its a fascinating show that definitely is marketed in an effective mode...
    So, for me its back to practicing Open Space Technology!
    Greetings from Berlin
    mmp






    -------- Original Message --------
    Subject: Re: an interesting meeting in Berlin
    Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:18:25 +0200
    From: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpanne at boscop.de>
    To: Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
    References: <00ec01c6cf96$7c0ba5e0$0201a8c0 at fundao0ngpntt7> <002601c6cfaa$86112ba0$b2f13018 at holaptop>


    click on the link she supplied, its a little hard to see for old men like me
    it was in the local Berlin paper today and I consider it to be a
    fabulous piece of bullshit,
    especially since they definitely forgot to include THIS
    great mind
    Tables have been out for some time...
    Greetings from Berlin
    mmp


    Harrison Owen wrote:
      OK Funda. You are indeed the "mystery woman." No more mysterious than now. . . What interesting meeting in Berlin????
       ho
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