an interesting meeting in Berlin]
Diane Brandon
diane at keysregion.org
Mon Sep 4 10:21:21 PDT 2006
Where on the www.droppingknowledge.org website can you see "the top
rated questions"? I see pages where one can rate them -- but not a
page with the "top" questions.
Diane
On Sep 4, 2006, at 1:12 PM, Nancy Weatherhead wrote:
> An excellent question… and… perhaps the ‘right’ forum for it.
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> From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Phelim McDermott
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 1:48 PM
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Subject: Re: an interesting meeting in Berlin]
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> Last time i looked this was the top rated question today it's
> number five!
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> How do we reduce the elitism of knowledge such as your event? Why
> do the masses ask you and not the other way around? Can you not ask
> questions of us and allow us to answer. Certainly we have better
> answers being more minds than you?
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> On 4 Sep 2006, at 17:27, Nancy Weatherhead wrote:
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> I understand the bias here against ‘experts’… but most of the
> ‘experts’ I have met are fully aware of their own lack of ability
> to answer all questions and would only choose to call themselves an
> expert in a certain area/field of living… and.. I do not see this
> word being used here… I also see that this is yet another forum
> that is looking for input from a wide variety and cross section of
> people from all countries and areas of ‘expertise’. Perhaps if you
> can look beyond a form that is not of your choosing you could find
> some value here?
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> Nancy
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> See with an open heart, hear with an open mind.
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> From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Harrison Owen
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 9:44 AM
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Subject: Re: an interesting meeting in Berlin]
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> Thanks to my increasing myopia (doubtless due to sins past and
> present) I did in fact miss the URL. small print! is the root of
> all evil!! But I love you Funda!!!
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> And Michael -- you captured my feeling exactly when it come to
> events like this. Doubtless it will be a marvelous show, but as an
> advance of real knowledge, and more importantly the application of
> that knowledge, I rather think it will come up short. The "Expert
> Syndrome" one more time. Old joke about the definition of "expert"
> -- "a has been under pressure." Some truth there, I think.
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> Harrison
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> Harrison Owen
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
> Potomac, MD 20854
> USA
> 301-365-2093
> 207-763-3261 (summer)
> website www.openspaceworld.com
> Personal Website www.ho-image.com
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: Michael M Pannwitz
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> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
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> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 4:12 AM
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> Subject: [Fwd: Re: an interesting meeting in Berlin]
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> Dear list,
> yesterday, I did send the note below to ho who had not discovered the
> link and entered my esteemed opinion on this project.
> Its in the local Berlin paper again today with a long report on how
> they
> are creating two setups, one indoor for rain and one outdoor for sunny
> weather...its quite a huge table coated with a very fancy and
> expensive
> material that can also be written on...they have already approached
> the
> Guinness Book of World Records for the largest round table
> ever...and I
> wouldnt be surprised if they cut it up in pieces and auction it off as
> they did with other local objects like the Berlin Wall....and, of
> course, there is going to be a video where you can see all of them
> simultaneously answering questions...
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> To me this is a good example for the paradigm "Experts solve Problems"
> (Taylor, Scientific management)which dominated the art between 1900
> and
> 1950, followed by a phase of "Everybody solves Problems" (Group
> Problem
> Solving, Lewin etc.) which in recent years, under the influence of
> Systems Thinking, has been changing since 1965 into "Experts improve
> whole systems" and, more recently, with the development of approaches
> such as Open Space, Future Search, etc., into "Everybody improves
> whole
> systems".
> I dont think that an approach long shown to be useless for the
> challenges we are facing now improves through technology that makes it
> available instantaneously, worldwide...
> Still, its a fascinating show that definitely is marketed in an
> effective mode...
> So, for me its back to practicing Open Space Technology!
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: an interesting meeting in Berlin
> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 01:18:25 +0200
> From: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpanne at boscop.de>
> To: Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
> References: <00ec01c6cf96$7c0ba5e0$0201a8c0 at fundao0ngpntt7>
> <002601c6cfaa$86112ba0$b2f13018 at holaptop>
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> click on the link she supplied, its a little hard to see for old
> men like me
> it was in the local Berlin paper today and I consider it to be a
> fabulous piece of bullshit,
> especially since they definitely forgot to include THIS
> great mind
> Tables have been out for some time...
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
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> Harrison Owen wrote:
> > OK Funda. You are indeed the "mystery woman." No more mysterious
> than
> > now. . . What interesting meeting in Berlin????
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> > ho
> > Harrison Owen
> > 7808 River Falls Dr.
> > Potomac, MD 20854
> > USA
> > 301-365-2093
> > 207-763-3261 (summer)
> > website www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
> > Personal Website www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Funda Oral <mailto:fundaoral at ttnet.net.tr>
> > *To:* OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> > <mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
> > *Sent:* Sunday, September 03, 2006 4:21 PM
> > *Subject:* an interesting meeting in Berlin
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