Open Space with 3rd graders in 1 hour
Chris Macrae
wcbn007 at easynet.co.uk
Tue May 2 12:00:21 PDT 2006
Actually I think an age themed version of what are the "why isn't it nobody
talked to us about xxx" is most relevant -imagine if the world's class of 10
year olds were empowered to define the experience black holes that most
schools are riddled with; and 11 years ; and 12 years - wouldn't we start to
see living curricula fit for the future instead of boxing our kids up in
mainly irrelevant past nostrums
anyhow we need to revolutionise both curricula and modes of curricula between
10 and 15 up so they learn to find their own best mentors through life and
help others likewise, a wholly different educational game than 20th c schools
begin to know how to organise
has anyone here looked at eg the social studies course that 9 year old
catholic girls are taught in the USA - it's riddled with words they are asked
to learn parrot fashion which are defined the wrong way round - social control
at its most shameful
the point I am trying to make is unlike university students, school kids have
another x years ahead of them where the brainwashing system needs changing
before they can to what are we going to do with the erst of our lives
chris macrae
http://ninenow.blogspot.com
Quoting Mikk Sarv <mikk at ilm.ee>:
I should try the topic Harrison suggested. Kids are often very deep and real,
if you address them with respect.
About the breakouts, I'd like two of 20 minutes.
Of course, Harrison's suggestion to make some more time with making own fun is
worth to try out.
If there is no fun, it doesn't work!
With best greetings,
Mikk Sarv
Estonia
----- Original Message -----
From: Harrison Owen
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: Open Space with 3rd graders in 1 hour
For a number of years I did an Open Space with MBA students at the end of
their program. The theme was always, "What are we going to do with the rest of
our lives?" Seemed to work, and they are just big children J
And if you could get a little more time, you would have a lot more fun.
Actually the kids could be their own inspiration ("a local performing artist")
so you could save some money and gain 1 ½ hours.
Harrison
Harrison Owen
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Phone 301-365-2093
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From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of ashley
cooper
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 11:45 AM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Open Space with 3rd graders in 1 hour
Hello all,
One of the hats that I wear is that I am a school counselor in the primary
division of a private school for gifted children. The school goes through 8th
grade, but I only work with children from preschool through third grade. This
is my first year at this school.
As the third graders are beginning to think about their transition into the
upper division, I am also thinking about the fact that I won't be their
counselor anymore. This third grade class is fairly socially scattered and not
so tightly connected. I've gotten quite close with many of them.
I have decided to give them a sort of rite of passage gift. The teachers
have given me a 1-1/2 hour block to offer them an inspiring performance about
following your passion (from a local performing artist) and then for me to
host an open space. The intent of this open space is for them to have an
opportunity to deepen connections with one another, expanding their sense of
being 'a class', and look forward and reflect upon the first phase of their
school life and what is important for them in this next phase.
So my questions:
1. Could you offer me some questions that would help me (and the teachers)
focus the theme?
2. Do you have any thoughts on structuring the open space? I am thinking
that we will have about an hour and 5 minutes total (I could maybe get more
time). Should I just do 1 break out session and a longer reflection circle or
2 20-minute breakouts and a smaller reflection?
Thank you so much for any thoughts you have to share.
with gratitude,
Ashley
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Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 13:03:44 -0700
Reply-To: lisaheft at openingspace.net
To: OSLIST <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
From: Lisa Heft <lisaheft at openingspace.net>
Subject: Re: Open Space with 3rd graders in 1 hour
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Hi, dear Ashley -
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Ashley wrote of doing a 'mini' Open Space with third-graders.
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You are the best person for this ! Those young people and their =
teachers
are lucky to have you.
=20
As a theme, how about=20
=20
'What are the gifts I bring to the world' or=20
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'What do I want to learn and share with you?' or
=20
'What things do we do that really make a difference in our family / our
neighborhood / our school / our world?' or if you really need it to be
school-based,
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'What things have I learned in school that help me help others?', or.
=20
I am giving you theme ideas when your question was actually 'could you =
offer
me some questions that would help me (and the teachers) focus the =
theme?'
=20
So let me reply to that specifically, too. When I work with
clients/sponsors on the theme, I ask what the intent of this meeting is =
for.
=20
(and you've explained that: 'for them to have an opportunity to deepen
connections with one another, expanding their sense of being 'a class', =
and
look forward and reflect upon the first phase of their school life and =
what
is important for them in this next phase.')
=20
.and I would ask them what they imagine a young person might ideally =
come
out of this feeling / knowing / being able to do.
=20
Then we just start playing ideas back and forth - for example I'd say =
the
deepening of connections and expanding a sense of being a class will be
delivered by the Open Space process. The looking forward and reflecting =
on
the first phase of their school life - I'd ask the teachers what these =
third
graders might say if you asked them to reflect on their first 3 years of
school - what would they remember? I'd guess favorite teachers, special
field trips, an activity or art project they really enjoyed, being =
tutored
by the older kids, some great friendships formed, and things like that.
(that's what little Lisa Heft enjoyed, anyway.!).
=20
If you and the teachers really resonate with the kinds of answers you =
think
might come of that, that will give you some sense if you are close to
finding your theme.
=20
Asking the young people to think about what is important for them in the
next phase of school.what do you and the teachers think they would =
answer? =20
=20
Going to the big kids' building, learning a language, sitting in a =
certain
place for assembly, tutoring the little kids.I'd suspect they might say =
what
they observe (mostly visually) about the bigger kids. =20
=20
Do the answers you and the teachers think of get you excited as you =
imagine
those possible discussions?
=20
I'd also ask the teachers if this might not be an opportunity to make =
things
a bit broader than the first 3 and next few years in school. Maybe an
opportunity to ask how the young people feel they have grown? What they =
want
to be and do? What they want to be and do for their world? Or =
Harrison's
invitation to imagine the future, which is not school-specific.
=20
I don't know where that conversation would go with the teachers but you =
get
my idea - I'd keep delving into what you could ask and what you imagine
folks might bring forth as topics and there will be a point at which you
really get excited.and that may be very close to your theme question.
=20
I also vote for 2 20-minute sessions. And if there is any challenge =
for
readers, I think John's/Michael's approach to having people make their =
topic
signs and walk out to the different discussion areas (tree, flower, =
fish,
chicken, frog, sun, moon) -- rather than posting them on an agenda wall =
--
keeps things visual-graphic-kinesthetic - you could do two rounds of
circle-announce-walk to groups, if it's all oral, as it can be hard for =
the
mind to remember more than one round of such things. Just an idea.
=20
We will all be there in spirit, Ms. Ashley,
=20
Lisa
=20
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L i s a H e f t
Consultant, Facilitator, Educator
O p e n i n g S p a c e
<mailto:lisaheft at openingspace.net> lisaheft at openingspace.net
<http://www.openingspace.net> www.openingspace.net=20
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wrote of
doing a ‘mini’ Open Space with =
third-graders.</span></font></p>
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MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
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MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:black'>You =
are the
best person for this ! Those young people and their teachers are =
lucky to
have you.</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
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face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";
color:black'>‘What are the gifts I bring to the world’ =
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face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
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color=3Dblack
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color=3Dblack
face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";
color:black'> </span></font></p>
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color=3Dblack
face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";
color:black'>‘What things do we do that really make a difference =
in our
family / our neighborhood / our school / our world?’ or if you =
really
need it to be school-based,</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";
color:black'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";
color:black'>‘What things have I learned in school that help me =
help
others?’, or…</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS";color:black'> </span></font></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:black'>I am =
giving you
theme ideas when your question was actually ‘<i><span =
style=3D'font-style:
italic'>could you offer me some questions that would help me (and the =
teachers)
focus the theme</span></i>?’</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS";color:black'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:black'>So let =
me reply
to that specifically, too. When I work with clients/sponsors on =
the
theme, I ask what the intent of this meeting is =
for…</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS";color:black'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:black'>(and =
you’ve
explained that: ‘<i><span style=3D'font-style:italic'>for them to =
have an
opportunity to deepen connections with one another, expanding their =
sense of
being ‘a class’, and look forward and reflect upon the first =
phase
of their school life and what is important for them in this next =
phase</span></i>.’)</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS";color:black'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS";color:black'>…and I
would ask them what they imagine a young person might ideally come out =
of this
feeling / knowing / being able to do.</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS";color:black'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:black'>Then =
we just
start playing ideas back and forth – for example I’d say the
deepening of connections and expanding a sense of being a class will be
delivered by the Open Space process. The looking forward and =
reflecting
on the first phase of their school life – I’d ask the =
teachers what
these third graders might say if you asked them to reflect on their =
first 3
years of school – what would they remember? I’d guess
favorite teachers, special field trips, an activity or art project they =
really
enjoyed, being tutored by the older kids, some great friendships formed, =
and
things like that. (that’s what little Lisa Heft enjoyed, =
anyway…!).</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS";color:black'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:black'>If you =
and the
teachers really resonate with the kinds of answers you think might come =
of that,
that will give you some sense if you are close to finding your =
theme.</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS";color:black'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:black'>Asking =
the
young people to think about what is important for them in the next phase =
of
school…what do you and the teachers think they would answer? =
</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS";color:black'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:black'>Going =
to the
big kids’ building, learning a language, sitting in a certain =
place for
assembly, tutoring the little kids…I’d suspect they might =
say what
they observe (mostly visually) about the bigger kids. =
</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS";color:black'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:black'>Do the =
answers
you and the teachers think of get you excited as you imagine those =
possible
discussions?</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS";color:black'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS";color:black'>I’d also ask
the teachers if this might not be an opportunity to make things a bit =
broader
than the first 3 and next few years in school. Maybe an =
opportunity to
ask how the young people feel they have grown? What they want to be and
do? What they want to be and do for their world? Or =
Harrison’s
invitation to imagine the future, which is not =
school-specific.</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS";color:black'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:black'>I =
don’t know
where that conversation would go with the teachers but you get my idea =
–
I’d keep delving into what you could ask and what you imagine =
folks might
bring forth as topics and there will be a point at which you really get =
excited…and
that may be very close to your theme question…</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS";color:black'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:black'>I also =
vote for
2 20-minute sessions. And if there is any challenge for =
readers, I think
John’s/Michael’s approach to having people make their topic =
signs and
walk out to the different discussion areas (tree, flower, fish, chicken, =
frog,
sun, moon) -- rather than posting them on an agenda wall -- keeps things
visual-graphic-kinesthetic – you could do two rounds of
circle-announce-walk to groups, if it’s all oral, as it can be =
hard for
the mind to remember more than one round of such things. Just an =
idea.</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Trebuchet =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS";color:black'> </span></font></p>
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