Working with visual artists at an Open Space

Tue Aug 22 07:45:45 PDT 2006

yes yes josef, this is how it could be.  the artist showing/inviting
people how to see and sketch things out in these other ways, the same
as the facilitator inviting/showing them how to *move* in new ways.
all good.  i can well imagine it happening both ways, though.  the
reason i mention this 'default of brilliant storyteller...' is that
that is, with one exception, the only way i've ever seen meeting
organizers have artists involved... to capture a visual record
themselves, not to help others capture that record for themselves.  so
yes, it can happen both ways, and i do have a preference for this way
you're suggesting... what i would call showing/inviting how to
capture, rather than capturing directly.

and yes, pat... many modes.  one of the most memorable osonos events
for me was when lisa kimball and anne stadler went out and bought a
pile of toobers and zots... foam tubes and connectors and a bunch of
us made silly shapes.  i made a crazy hat contraption and wore it all
day on day two.  at the end of the day, i saw anne at the elevator and
thanked her for her gift to us.  i explained that i'd had a great day
and suggested that now i might have to wear this magic hat everyday.
anne's response was brilliant and immediate:  "it might be the person
underneath the hat."

m

On 8/22/06, joralt <joralt at netvision.net.il> wrote:
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> Dear Michael
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> I have no idea where did you take the image of an artist as someone who is
> supposed to take away from the group their own story telling by imposing his
> own artful interpretations and
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> how did you arrive to conclusion that the artist's "default role of
> brilliant storyteller and documenter" is what artist's job really supposed
> to be?
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> In my experience, working with visual material allowing people to use
> unsophisticated and non-professional image making as a tool to extract deep
> insight into a problem or a burning issue has always resulted in a very
> positive and many times a surprised reaction at the profoundness and
> inclusiveness of those insights. What is more, with a very little guidance,
> most people have no problem to read and correctly interpret the visual data
> that adds a significant emotional and sensual information that goes beyond
> the judgmental tendency of cerebral verbiage. It is exactly the image of an
> artist as some sort of a specially gifted and sometimes eccentric individual
> that has created the isolation of the artist in specialized ghettos, with
> the result of profound neglect of the search for a balance between content
> and form almost in all areas of life .The fact that all content needs design
> to be meaningful and good design is not limited to artistic forms is exactly
> what can be the artist's contribution to the society in general and to an
> alternative ways of communication, interaction and creativity in many
> specific settings, open space included.
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> Josef
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> Josef Ralt
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> -----Original Message-----
>  From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael
> Herman
>  Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 11:05 PM
>  To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
>  Subject: Re: Working with visual artists at an Open Space
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> hi all,
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> not as simple as both addendums, i think...
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> the facilitator comes in with no knowledge of the real work of the
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> organization, makes a short opening invitation and explanation of the
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> process, and then is *poof* mostly gone from view.  when he/she does
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> show up, it's usually only to ask the group to tell itself what is
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> happening.
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>
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> the artist, on the other hand, comes in and listens the same as
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> everybody else, perhaps to technical language that they don't quite
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> understand, any more than the facilitator would, but what the artist
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> does is quite different.
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> he/she sits in sessions, listening to the details, capturing the notes
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> -- same as participants and conveners... but the artists are
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> professional note-takers, and their product is so much more accessible
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> than a few pages of typed notes.  on the other hand, the artist
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> doesn't really grasp or record the details any more than the
>
> facilitator does, so the drawings might be interesting but not enough
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> to act on.  the typed notes are still important... if we are here for
>
> action.  depending on the circumstances, it seems that the pictures
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> might overwhelm the text notes.  that seems out of line with our
>
> intentions in opening space.  we want people to make their own
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> stories, with whatever tools they might have.
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>
> is the artist's work beautiful, interesting, magical, and more.  yes,
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> of course.  but what if i am a great story teller?  would i ever get
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> up and attempt to 'keynote' the closing circle with my own summation?
>
> never.  so i'm not sure why i would ever want an artist to come in and
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> be summarizing people's stories for them, taking them to some level of
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> expression that, as beautiful as it might be, is not somehting that
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> the group can sustain for themselves.
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> NOW, all that said... IF the artist can step out of this sort of
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> default role of brilliant storyteller and documenter and work same as
>
> the facilitator -- to invite everyone else to make up the story for
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> themselves, now that seems something entirely different to me.  the
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> artist as invitation, the artist who never sketches anything -- but
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> somehow finishes the day with a wall full of pictures by others... now
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> that is what i call artistic opening!
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> i'm not interested in bringing others in to do things that we think
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> participants can't do for themselves.  i want to invite participants
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> to do it *all* for themselves.  that, to me, is what open space is
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> for... discovering that we can do it for ourselves... that we have the
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> bullet points, the artful sketch, the passion, the responsiblity, the
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> vision and the action within each and all of us.
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> m
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> On 8/21/06, Harrison Owen <hhowen at adelphia.net> wrote:
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> > Reinhard -- I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. And if it will make you
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> > feel any better you should know that when I facilitate an Open Space I
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> > consider myself an "addendum" My job is to get out of the way as quickly
> as
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> > possible so that the people can do what only the people can do.
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> > Harrison
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> > Harrison Owen
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> > ----- Original Message -----
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> > From: Visuelle Protokolle
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> > To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
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> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 2:34 AM
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> > Subject: AW: Working with visual artists at an Open Space
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> > Hi Chris, and all you others,
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> > I was hoping that your question would open a dialog I was seeking since
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> > years. Since years I am on this OS list, feeling that you and me are
> seeking
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> > for the same treasure in and on similar ways.
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> >
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> > But then I get Harrison's "One caution about visual artists and other such
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> > addendum" and ask me, and ask you: Are you, like me, an addendum to the
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> > process of self organizing people, helping them a bit as we can with our
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> > tools, or are you the high priests and I am the addendum?
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> > Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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> > best regards
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> > Reinhard
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> > VISUELLE PROTOKOLLE
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> > tel +39-0566-88 929
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> > www.visuelle-protokolle.de
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> >  ________________________________
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> >  Von: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] Im Auftrag von Chris
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> > Corrigan
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> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. August 2006 18:51
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> > An: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
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> > Betreff: Working with visual artists at an Open Space
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> > Hi mates:
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> > I have an opportunity coming up in the fall to work with a visual artist
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> > an Open Space I am doing.  The clients wants us to work together and I'm
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> > excited by the possibility, but haven't ever done that before.
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> >
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> > So what kind of good stories do you have of working with visual artists
> (and
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> > visual art as a modality) in Open Space.
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> > Daniel?  Reinhardt?  Is Nancy Margulis around?  Others?
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> >
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> > Chris
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> >
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> > --
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> > Consultation - Facilitation
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> > Open Space Technology
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> > Weblog: http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot
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>From  Tue Aug 22 12:10:35 2006
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Dear Wendy, Peggy, and all,
Since about 2002, I have noticed what Wendy is referring to as =91new
competencies=92 emerging not only in OST meetings, but in all kinds of
gatherings. There appears to be a new level of consciousness. One of
these competencies is the way emergent groups are happening in OST
meetings such as at the OSONOS in Moscow that Wendy referred to. I had
one of the most powerful moments for me, in an emergent group that
included Wendy that I will cherish for a lifetime. =20
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I have also noticed =91new competencies=92 in participants in our other
work, including in the workshops that we lead. Workshops that required
two days to get through a few years ago, now lead to such deep and
conscious discussions, that the same workshops are taking 3-4 days and
the participants feel that this is not long enough. I have been
witnessing that another new competency appears to be =91deep =
listening=92.
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Birgitt
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Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 4:30 AM
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Dear Peggy and all,
What a rich conversation!  What wonderful questions to sit with!
What is coming up for me, Peggy, is that it is not a new technology that
we are waiting to see emerge, but rather that we are witnessing the
growing pains of a new competency in open space.  I was blessed to
experience rich butterfly behaviour in Moscow at OSonOS XIV.   Pairings
and small groups sprang up, unposted, all about the space, over all
three days.  These groups honoured the principles and the law of OS and
flourished in it.  There were very personal, intimate conversations that
occurred there=97deep and lasting relationships formed.  And each person =
I
witnessed, had the openness, the energy, and the courage to trust in
Spirit and in the practice of deep invitation. Even in the most delicate
of conversations, a newcomer was welcomed in as the right person at the
right time.  I suggest this is the edge of a new competence emerging in
OS events=97that OST, when embodied fully, can bring as rich rewards to
our relationships as it has to our innovations in organizations=97with =
no
alteration in the technology.  I sense that the private meetings, the
limited invitations, are a relic of our pre-OS consciousness that we are
ever more quickly transcending.  That the urge to non-convene? a group
of one, two or more people will grow.  That the participants=92 trust in
the field to generate the precise invitation required will grow.  The
right people, the right time, whatever happens, be prepared.  I suggest
that as participants=92 capacity to sense the energy of the field and to
work with it grows, the need to exert external controls will dissipate.=20
Perhaps one day, we won=92t even see topics posted=97just a crowd of
butterflies and bumblebees swirling in mandelbrotish ecstasy!  Wink
wink.  <big grin>
Cheers and love,
Wendy
Wendy Farmer-O'Neil
Prospera Communications & Consulting Services
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Since about 2002, I have noticed =
what
Wendy is referring to as =91new competencies=92 emerging not only in
OST meetings, but in all kinds of gatherings. There appears to be a new =
level
of consciousness. One of these competencies is the way emergent groups =
are
happening in OST meetings such as at the OSONOS in =
<st1:City><st1:place>Moscow</st1:place></st1:City> that Wendy referred to. I had one of the most powerful =
moments for
me, in an emergent group that included Wendy that I will cherish for a
lifetime.  =
<o:p></o:p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

I have also noticed =91new
competencies=92 in participants in our other work, including in the
workshops that we lead. Workshops that required two days to get through =
a few
years ago, now lead to such deep and conscious discussions, that the =
same workshops
are taking 3-4 days and the participants feel that this is not long =
enough. I
have been witnessing that another new competency appears to be =91deep
listening=92.<o:p></o:p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Birgitt<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>=

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoAutoSig><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>Birgitt =
Williams<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoAutoSig><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'><img width=3D252 =
height=3D138
id=3D"_x0000_i1025" =
src=3D"cid:image001.gif at 01C6C536.FFEEE530"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Wendy Farmer-O'Neil<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, August 21, =
2006 4:30
AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> advanced =
butterfly</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
lang=3DEN-CA
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-CA'>Dear=
 Peggy
and all,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
lang=3DEN-CA
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-CA'>What=
 a rich
conversation!  What wonderful questions to sit =
with!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

What=
 is
coming up for me, Peggy, is that it is not a new technology that we are =
waiting
to see emerge, but rather that we are witnessing the growing pains of a =
new
competency in open space.  I was blessed to experience rich =
butterfly
behaviour in Moscow at OSonOS XIV.   Pairings and =
small
groups sprang up, unposted, all about the space, over all three =
days. 
These groups honoured the principles and the law of OS and flourished in
it.  There were very personal, intimate conversations that occurred
there=97deep
and lasting relationships
formed.  And each person I witnessed, had the =
openness, the
energy, and the courage to trust in</=
span> Spir=
it
and =
in the practice of deep invitation. Even in the =
most
delicate of conversations, a newcomer was welcomed in as the right =
person at
the right time.  I suggest this is the edge of a =
new
competence emerging in OS events=97that OST,=

when embodied fully, can bring as rich rewards to our relationships as =
it has
to our innovations in organizations=97with no alteration in the
technology.  I sense that the private meetings, the limited =
invitations,</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-CA style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-CA'> </span><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-CA'>are
a</span></font><span lang=3DEN-CA style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-CA'> =
</span><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
mso-ansi-language:EN-CA'>relic of our pre-OS consciousness that we are =
ever
more quickly transcending. </span></font><span lang=3DEN-CA
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-CA'> </span><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-CA'>That=

the urge to non-convene? a group of one, two or more =
people
will grow.  That the participants=92<=
span
lang=3DEN-CA style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-CA'> trus=
t
in the field to generate the precise invitation required =
will
grow.  The right people, the right time, whatever happens, be
prepared.  I suggest that as participants=92 capacity to
sense the energy of the field and to work with it grows, the need to =
exert
external controls will dissipate. <o:p></o:p>

<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
lang=3DEN-CA
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-CA'>Perh=
aps one
day, we won=92t even see topics posted=97just a crowd of butterflies
and bumblebees swirling in mandelbrotish</span></font><span lang=3DEN-CA
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-CA'> </span><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-CA'>ecst=
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size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
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