leverage points & Control --I wish I had it
Wendy Farmer-O'Neil
wendy at xe.net
Tue May 24 19:34:21 PDT 2005
Absolutely. After I posted I realized that prescription was the wrong word and would probably twist my intention. I don't have the right word yet. Will try again when I find it.
Again, we seem to be issuing invitations that are going awry. My invitation was merely to engage in a thought experiment and see what new learning or insight it might reveal...Ah, well...
Thanks,
W.
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From: Harrison Owen
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Wendy -- the principles were not (as is usually the case) worked out in advance as prescriptions of what ought to happen. Rather they were observations by myself and many others as to what actually did happen. The same would be true with the Law. Not an "ought" but an "is."
Is this right? I don't know, but that is the way it happened. Whenever I say Principles and Law -- I always smile, because I know it/they are not what people usually expect.
Harrison
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----- Original Message -----
From: Wendy Farmer-O'Neil
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Subject: Re: leverage points & Control --I wish I had it
Hmmm...this is interesting...
I guess I made an assumption somewhere along the line here, that the actual
principles of OST were freedom, self-organization, responsibility, caring,
maturity, invitation, positivity, productive chaos, self-authorship,
etc....And that the things we call "The Principles" and stick up on the wall
are actually just part of the container we create to hold chaos at a
manageable level for productive self-organization. Let me clarify a bit...I
think I am seeing "The Principles" as what we use to inspire confidence in
the process for the participants...most of whom have never encountered OS
before and find it a bit unsettling at first. They need some reassurance
that what is happening is normal, okay and will work--in order to relax and
give it try. In this regard, I think a certain amount of prescription would
be okay, if not perhaps even necessary? I may be completely wrong.
This leads me to wondering...How would things change if we just had the Law?
Not that i'm suggesting this at all...it just makes me go hmmmm....
And yonder bi-furcated post-metamorphosis caterpillar with the ricepaper
fans causes updrafts of great significance in the Easternmost Orient once
again...
Well...that is how Bi-Coloured Python Rock Snakes always talk.
O Best Beloved...
Wendy
PS, Harrison: I'll bring my Kipling to Halifax if you'll bring yours...;-)
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From: "Masud Sheikh" <masheikh at COGECO.CA>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: leverage points
> Harrison Owen <hhowen at comcast.net> wrote:
>>Actually, I don't think it is as much of an "assumption" as a blinding
> flash of the obvious. Those who came are the only ones there! And the
> reason they are there is that they cared enough to come. That does not
> make all those who didn't come bad, immoral, or terrible -- but the fact
> of the matter is that they didn't care enough to come. Now maybe the next
> time they would feel differently -- care more. Make the necessary
> arrangements, or sacrifices! But for this particular Open Space -- those
> who care came. And CARING is the sole criteria for entry. That alone makes
> them the "right people." No Caring -- no come...
>>
>>And why would this be true? Well, I think Open Space is all about passion
> and responsibility. And if you don't CARE -- no passion, and little hope
> of accepting responsibility. Who on earth would take responsibility for
> something they don't care about?
>>
> We have been through this before, Harrison. I find it judgmental (being
> judgmental myself, I know judgment when I see it :-)) How about changing
> it to: "Those who felt invited, came"?
> Masud
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