Research Reminder

[Harrison Owen]

Therese -- when you go around in circles (or spirals) who knows where you
will come out. I don't think anybody has accused Ken Wilber of creating
Spiral Dynamics. And just to display my own biases (critical judgment?), why
would he want to when his own work, in my humble opinion, is above, beyond,
and deeper than all the spirals. But the problem with Wilber's stuff is that
for all of its elegance and profundity, it is almost impossible to make
practical applications. I think Wilber has understood that, which may be why
he has been a supporter of Spiral Dynamics. My own take is that if I want to
jump into the infinite majesty (to say nothing of complexity) manifest in
the evolution of human consciousness -- Ken Wilber has few peers. But when
it comes to practical applications, my poor, aged head just can't get the
few remaining neurons and synapses to surround the multi-colored hues of
Spiral dynamics. I prefer the original -- The Great Chain of Being.
Different strokes for different folks!

And for those of you who may be reading this with some small degree of
skepticism or confusion. Don't worry. That said you really might enjoy a
good read with something like Ken Wilber's "A Brief History of Everything."

Harrison

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-----Original Message-----
From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Therese
Fitzpatrick
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 4:56 PM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: Research Reminder

Just a small response to Larry's passing comment about "Ken Wilber and
Spiral Dynamics".  Ken Wilber did not develop the Spiral Dynamics (SD)
model and his use of Spiral Dynamics has revealed a bit of a schism in
SD circles.  Since the topic is 'research', I just felt a mile need to
clarify that Ken Wilber's Spiral Dynamics is not considered Spiral
Dynamics by everyone.


On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 23:33:39 +0100, Lucas Gonzalez <lgs0a at yahoo.es> wrote:
> --- Harrison Owen <hhowen at comcast.net> escribió:
> > OK Larry :-) I have a 400 person OS with a major health care
> > provider. I am
> > forwarding them the material, and if they are agreeable, we are off
> > to the
> > races.
>
> Wow - that would make it two on health-care!
>
> Is health-care particularly complex?  I'm biased as that's where I
> work.  And yes, they are planning a local meeting which will not be in
> open space at all.
>
> What makes an organisation or situation particularly complex?  Any
> examples of something that looked complex and was not so, or the other
> way round?  My initial guess is that complexity is always present, even
> if we don't look at it.  But I'm not sure.
>
> Lucas
>
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Warmly,
Therese Fitzpatrick

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