How did you start? (was New member introduction) AND OSonOS reminder

Raffi Aftandelian raffi at bk.ru
Tue Dec 13 01:33:36 PST 2005


Kevin,
Welcome to the list! I have found this list the place where I'm
closest to more than 400+ strangers (more and more of whom have
become friends) over the past 4 years.

As Chris Corrigan (www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot) mentioned
recently, this list is an incredible place. Indeed, for me it has been
a source of spiritual support. Many miracles have been born here. I've
lost count.

I think your nose will tell you who you want to "remember" OS with, as
OS has always been with us and nobody can teach it. Only a
"reminderer" (not facilitator or even trainer can "teach" OS), many of
us believe.

I "remembered" OS with Birgitt Williams (www.genuinecontact.net) in Novosibirsk, Russia (like you, I'm an American
abroad- based in Moscow). The Genuine Contact Program offers one of
the many ways/approaches/"schools" to OST. It has been so interesting
to learn that with OST we have come to part/much of the answer. And
each of the approaches to OST offers a special something. And OST is
changing too as we are as people.

One of the most satisfying regular events that the OST
community/organization holds regularly is the international annual
gathering of OST practitioners and those with an interest in OST: the
Open Space on Open Space (OSonOS).

Moscow has the privilege of hosting next year's OSonOS,
August 4-6, 2006. This is an absolutely delightful way of meeting many
of those who have been doing this work for a while (or just started
yesterday). You can learn more about the OSonOS at:

http://www.openspaceworld.org/news/open-space-on-open-space

Another very valuable (perhaps under-mentioned) resource is Harrison
Owen's Understanding Open Space CD audio set. This set is his
"reminding" talks from an OST Reminding Workshop in Seattle in 1999.

I have found especially the first CD to be extremely valuable in
"remembering" what OST and os is.
http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/wiki.cgi?BooksAndVideos

Lastly, you might want to consider from the very beginning creating a
mentoring circle or stammtische (thanks to our German OSWorld friends,
and Michael Pannewitz in particular for this term--
www.openspaceworldmap.org) of people who practice or have an interest
in OST. Creating a community of practice does not have to be something
hard or time-consuming: it can be like a stammtische -- meeting at a
bar, or something that has the formal elements of an OST meeting as
might be the case with a mentoring circle. Once you begin creating the
community it makes the work of introducing OST in places where people
are not as familiar with it much easier, and it is easier to learn.

Warmly,
Raffi Aftandelian
essenceworks consulting group
Moscow, Russia



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>From  Tue Dec 13 06:52:45 2005
Message-Id: <TUE.13.DEC.2005.065245.0500.>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:52:45 -0500
Reply-To: hhowen at verizon.net
To: OSLIST <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
From: Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
Organization: HH Owen and Co.
Subject: Re: OS newbie here/Hybrid Open Space
X-To: Kathleen Osta <kathleen at vitalclarity.com>
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Kathleen wrote: 

My inclination to create a hybrid is mostly because I don't know yet 
how to create some of the typical components of a strategic plan using 
OS, e.g., a shared vision for 3 - 5 years out, Underlying 
Contradictions, Strategic Directions and an Implementation Calendar. I 
have several, long-term clients who have received great value from the 
ICA Participatory Strategic Planning (PSP) process that I've used with 
them and am trying to figure out how to transition them to OS.

I've attached a sample document of one of typical plans as a frame of 
reference. This approach guides a group's work and they update it on a 
quarterly or 2 times per year basis to maintain its relevance. I'm 
interested in figuring out a few different approaches for positioning 
OS so that it creates a comfortable transition that speaks the 
different kind of outputs. I also need to know how to facilitate it so 
that the outputs serve as a strategic plan. Let me know if I've been 
clear enough about this. I'm guessing that it can be done, I just don't 
have enough experience with OS to figure it out quite yet.

Also, I've not read any of the other listserv responses so the answers 
to my questions are hopefully in them.

Harrison Responded:

Doing a strategic plan in OS is actually quite simple. Start with the
question: What are the issues and opportunities for our business 5 years
out?" Then do two days in Open space with a final half day for convergence,
prioritization and "action planning." The details on how to do all this are
pretty well outlined in "The Book." When you get to the convergence part,
you could use the software that was developed some years ago or -- what most
people are doing now -- simply open the space again on the 3rd day for those
"issues/opportunities" that are really "hot" on people's mind. Chris
Corrigan on OSLIST is probably best on this subject, and probably has
something on his website. 

I have done all this on a number of occasions and it works very well. The
only problem is that usually the distinction between planning and doing gets
blurred and in some cases disappears. All of which I take to be a positive
advantage.

Personally, I have a real problem with an annual or semi-annual review.
Looks nice on paper, but the world rarely works that war. Things happen when
they happen and have to be deal with then. That could be in 2 weeks or two
years. I also find it useful to remind folks that the Plan is not reality
(map is not the territory), and for sure it does not "create" the future. At
best it is sort of notes to ourselves to be considered on the journey.

Harrison 



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Dear Harrison,
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 Please, can I have a reference to were can I find some short and clear
articles about inner-outer-identity of self-collective spiral =
simple-complex
relationships?
=20
I read this and it fits and resonates to our trying to make sense from =
the
tent stories' yes I hope we will come around with some understanding and
share it...
all the best for now and the coming of holiday season and New year
Tova
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Harrison
Owen
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 2:14 PM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Self and Meta-Self / Individual and Community


One of the curious things about Open Space -- or at least the experience =
of
Open Space -- is the apparently conflicted notions of "self" and =
"community"
flow easily and naturally together. Folks often report that they never =
had
felt so respected/honored/perceived as a person. And simultaneously the
awareness of the collective (may I dare say -- community?) is almost
overwhelming. It never seems to be the case that individuality must be
sacrificed for the whole or that the whole is simply an assembly of
individuals. It has often occurred to me that the "problem" of =
individual
and community is less a function of our experience than our logic. Or =
maybe
our logic forces a false distinction so that we expect the individual to =
be
in conflict with community? This is the logic of "either/or" -- and not
both/and. It is a logic dominated by an awareness of contradiction as
opposed to paradox -- and somehow all paradoxes are thought to be
contradictory and therefore to be resolved and eliminated.=20
=20
Alan Rayner, the developer and proponent of what he calls =
Inculsionality,
has done some interesting work in this area, and writes as follows:=20

"Using inclusional logic, however, the isolation of the simple, fixed =
notion
of self becomes subsumed by the togetherness of complex, dynamic forms =
(in
effect =91flow forms=92) comprising inner, outer and intermediary =
spatial
domains, all of which are vital to their distinct, but not discrete,
identities. Rather than being unitary or binary, ecocentric or =
egocentric,
such =91complex selves=92 represent ternary couplings of inner with =
outer, of
the kind alluded to by Shakunle=92s =91fluid logic numbers=92 (see =
above). Their
behaviour is therefore ultimately intractable to impositional logic, as =
was
implicitly acknowledged by Newton =91himself=92 in his analysis of the =
=91three
body problem=92 (Montgomery, 2001). Moreover, this behaviour can neither =
be
regarded as intrinsically =91selfish=92 nor =91altruistic=92, because =
neither the
disregard of the outer (=91collective=92/ =91we=92) nor inner =
(=91individual=92/=92I=92)
aspect is evolutionarily sustainable in such a co-creative system."=20

The language is a little turgid I guess -- but I find the notions =
appealing.

=20

Harrison

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7808 River Falls Dr.
Potomac, MD  20854
USA
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207-763-3261 (summer)
website www.openspaceworld.com
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Harrison,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D058230808-14122005><FONT face=3DArial=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D058230808-14122005><FONT face=3DArial =
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can I have a reference to were can I find some short and clear articles =
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relationships?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D058230808-14122005><FONT face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D058230808-14122005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff>I read this=20
and it fits and resonates to our trying to make sense from the tent =
stories' yes=20
I hope we will come around with some understanding and share=20
it...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D058230808-14122005><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff>all the best=20
for now and the coming of holiday season and New =
year</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D058230808-14122005><FONT face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff>Tova</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Harrison=20
  Owen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 23, 2005 2:14 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B>Subject:</B> Self and Meta-Self / =

  Individual and Community<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>One of the curious things about Open =
Space -- or at=20
  least the experience of Open Space -- is the apparently conflicted =
notions of=20
  "self" and "community" flow easily and naturally together. Folks often =
report=20
  that they never had felt so respected/honored/perceived as a person. =
And=20
  simultaneously the awareness of the collective (may I dare say -- =
community?)=20
  is almost overwhelming. It never seems to be the case that =
individuality must=20
  be sacrificed for the whole or that the whole is simply an assembly of =

  individuals. It has often occurred to me that the "problem" of =
individual and=20
  community is less a function of our experience than our logic. Or =
maybe our=20
  logic forces a false distinction so that we expect the individual to =
be in=20
  conflict with community? This is the logic of "either/or" -- and not =
both/and.=20
  It is a logic dominated by an awareness of contradiction as opposed to =
paradox=20
  -- and somehow all paradoxes are thought to be contradictory and =
therefore to=20
  be resolved and eliminated. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Alan Rayner, the developer and proponent of =
what he=20
  calls Inculsionality, has done some interesting work in this area, and =
writes=20
  as follows:=20
  <P>"Using inclusional logic, however, the <I>isolation</I> of the =
simple,=20
  fixed notion of self becomes subsumed by the <I>togetherness</I> of =
complex,=20
  dynamic forms (in effect =91flow forms=92) comprising inner, outer and =

  intermediary spatial domains, <I>all</I> of which are <I>vital</I> to =
their=20
  distinct, but not discrete, <I>identities</I>. Rather than being =
unitary or=20
  binary, ecocentric or egocentric, such <I>=91complex selves=92</I> =
represent=20
  ternary couplings of inner with outer, of the kind alluded to by =
Shakunle=92s=20
  =91fluid logic numbers=92 (see above). Their behaviour is therefore =
ultimately=20
  intractable to impositional logic, as was implicitly acknowledged by =
Newton=20
  =91himself=92 in his analysis of the =91three body problem=92 =
(Montgomery, 2001).=20
  Moreover, this behaviour can neither be regarded as intrinsically =
=91selfish=92=20
  nor =91altruistic=92, because neither the disregard of the outer =
(=91collective=92/=20
  =91we=92) nor inner (=91individual=92/=92I=92) aspect is =
evolutionarily sustainable in=20
  such a co-creative system." </P>
  <P>The language is a little turgid I guess -- but I find the notions=20
  appealing.</P>
  <P> </P>
  <P>Harrison</P>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Harrison Owen<BR>7808 River Falls =
Dr.<BR>Potomac,=20
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(summer)<BR>website <A=20
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