OST second time around
Koos de Heer
koos at auryn.nl
Mon Dec 5 12:46:15 PST 2005
Dear Friends,
Twice now it has happened to me that I facilitated an OST event in an
organization where the people were so thrilled with the experience that
they asked me to do it again a year later. In both cases, the second time
seemed much less energetic than the first time. People were slower posting
topics and action planning really dragged along. I have been wondering what
mechanism is at work here. Maybe it is just the fact that it is not a new
experience. Maybe because the OST experience is not new, you need a
stronger theme to get people going.
Of course, I have also said to myself that this is what has happened and
nothing else could have happened. But on the other hand it is painful to
see people come back for seconds and then be disappointed. So I would like
to know what your experiences are with seconds.
Thanks and warm greetings from a cold and drizzly St. Nicholas eve (the
traditional day on which we give each other presents in The Netherlands,
instead of Christmas).
Koos
Koos de Heer
Utrecht, the Netherlands
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>From Mon Dec 5 12:53:31 2005
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Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 12:53:31 -0800
Reply-To: chris at chriscorrigan.com
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From: Chris Corrigan <chris.corrigan at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: OST second time around
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Hi Koos...
Very hard to say without knowing more about the context, but I wonder if it
doesn't have something to do with the fact that people think that OST itsel=
f
and alone is magic? I'm inclined to put a lot of weight on the power of th=
e
invitation working in concert with the process. The process facilitates th=
e
deepest possible engagement with the invitation, but if the invitation is
not meaningful and not true, then maybe it feels a little like the groups i=
s
just skating over the surface of things.
The process is wonderful, but it isn't the process itself that creates the
magic. We can certainly use OST with almost any question, but the question=
s
have to be real, deep, timely and complicated if we want to get real, deep,
timely and sophisticated engagement.
Cheers,
Chris
On 12/5/05, Koos de Heer <koos at auryn.nl> wrote:
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> Twice now it has happened to me that I facilitated an OST event in an
> organization where the people were so thrilled with the experience that
> they asked me to do it again a year later. In both cases, the second time
> seemed much less energetic than the first time. People were slower postin=
g
> topics and action planning really dragged along. I have been wondering
> what
> mechanism is at work here. Maybe it is just the fact that it is not a new
> experience. Maybe because the OST experience is not new, you need a
> stronger theme to get people going.
>
> Of course, I have also said to myself that this is what has happened and
> nothing else could have happened. But on the other hand it is painful to
> see people come back for seconds and then be disappointed. So I would lik=
e
> to know what your experiences are with seconds.
>
> Thanks and warm greetings from a cold and drizzly St. Nicholas eve (the
> traditional day on which we give each other presents in The Netherlands,
> instead of Christmas).
>
> Koos
>
>
>
> Koos de Heer
> Utrecht, the Netherlands
>
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Hi Koos...<br>
<br>
Very hard to say without knowing more about the context, but I wonder
if it doesn't have something to do with the fact that people think that
OST itself and alone is magic? I'm inclined to put a lot of
weight on the power of the invitation working in concert with the
process. The process facilitates the deepest possible engagement
with the invitation, but if the invitation is not meaningful and not
true, then maybe it feels a little like the groups is just skating over
the surface of things.<br>
<br>
The process is wonderful, but it isn't the process itself that creates
the magic. We can certainly use OST with almost any question, but
the questions have to be real, deep, timely and complicated if we want
to get real, deep, timely and sophisticated engagement. <br><br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Chris<br>
<br>
<br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 12/5/05, <b class=3D"gmail_senderna=
me">Koos de Heer</b> <<a href=3D"mailto:koos at auryn.nl">koos at auryn.nl</a>=
> wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1=
px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"=
>
Dear Friends,<br><br>Twice now it has happened to me that I facilitated an =
OST event in an<br>organization where the people were so thrilled with the =
experience that<br>they asked me to do it again a year later. In both cases=
, the second time
<br>seemed much less energetic than the first time. People were slower post=
ing<br>topics and action planning really dragged along. I have been wonderi=
ng what<br>mechanism is at work here. Maybe it is just the fact that it is =
not a new
<br>experience. Maybe because the OST experience is not new, you need a<br>=
stronger theme to get people going.<br><br>Of course, I have also said to m=
yself that this is what has happened and<br>nothing else could have happene=
d. But on the other hand it is painful to
<br>see people come back for seconds and then be disappointed. So I would l=
ike<br>to know what your experiences are with seconds.<br><br>Thanks and wa=
rm greetings from a cold and drizzly St. Nicholas eve (the<br>traditional d=
ay on which we give each other presents in The Netherlands,
<br>instead of Christmas).<br><br>Koos<br><br><br><br>Koos de Heer<br>Utrec=
ht, the Netherlands<br><br>*<br>*<br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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