Open Space - a minimum? - efficacy of modern medicine

[Jim]

Paul,
I'm glad that you are on this list. I love to disagree with you. Often
cannot. Happy enough when I can - you are very stimulating, and call up
truth that is frequently forgotten, must be remembered. Whether I agree
with you entirely or not on a particular day, I hope you are long on
this list, and long in this world. I'm richer for your postings.
Jim
 
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In a message dated 8/16/05 10:48:26 AM, duff at innergy.ca writes:




Paul,

I'm a little concerned about the attacking voice of this posting.
Especially from one that appears to be a voice that is listened to on
this list.

Yes, it was probably too forceful.  Certainly not meant as attack.  But
was construed as such by at least yourself.  As for being listened to,
well, that's not my impression, believe me.  I often feel like a voice
completely out of sync with most on this list.
...............

And a final consideration:

We are now facing overwhelming overpopulation on a worldwide scale, with
the population continuing to grow at an alarming (and increasing) rate.
Much of this is due to the decline in mortality rates. While i am very
affected by human suffering and death, i must question whether it is
actually a boon to humankind to have such runaway growth. Certainly in
animal populations such unchecked growth results in decline and
sometimes extinction of a species as the resources it relies on
disappear.

I'm not stating hard opinions but rather raising questions to consider.
In fact, i wouldn't be alive myself without modern medicine as i was the
2nd Rh+ child of an Rh- mother and would have died without a
transfusion.



duff

I believe you are stating opinions, and one of them is that there are
too many people around.  I used to believe that but no longer do.  For
complex philosophical and practical reasons I won't deal with here on
list. Suffice it to say that the animal populations do not have
thinking/reasoning brains to deal with their overpopulation, so the
analogy fails.  The UN is busily reducing it's projections of population
growth because 'things are changing'.  At least so a news item I read
recently said.  

I appreciate the references and will read them in the future.  I am
however doubtful that man has done very little to increase life and its
abundance.  There were people who survived the Plague, who survived
polio, etc., but many did not.  I guess I come down on the side of those
who would have died without the polio vaccine, etc.  But, don't fear,
maybe Ebola, or some other equally deadly disease, will solve the
"problem" of too many people.  I sincerely hope medical science helps me
not be part of the solution.  (btw, I've had three laser surgeries on my
very myopic eyes and would likely be blind now and unable to read this
list, so I'm for medicine.)

Sincerely,

Paul



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