OS and ethics

Marei Kiele MareiKiele at web.de
Wed Sep 8 06:52:00 PDT 2004



"Funda Oral" <fundaokan at superonline.com> schrieb:
> Dear Marei,
> 
> This is also a challenge for me.....do the (my) right thing ....only for
> (my) responsibilities
> and not for "my ego" or not for (my) physical/psychological needs.


Dear Funday,

I am not sure if I got you right. But I would like to answer your mail by switching things a bit:
I believe ALL I do is for meeting my personal needs. And I believe this is what everyone always does. And that is just fine. I believe that all (human) life is about maximum joy and minimum pain. We only have different ways to do this.

What a person and a community learns during developement is that there are ways to fulfill one's needs and those of others at the same time. And that this is much more fun and more effective than only taking care for the ego. Win-win-situations they are called nowadays.

So whenever somebody else askes me to help, support, assist in a process or whatever (s)he is giving me the opportunity to experience me in a way I may like to be in. This is a gift for both sides.

That's what I ment by "there is no being on a higher level than anybody else". Being aware is maybe a better word than being sensual. Because I did not mean holding back or not being proud or not playing open. To me being aware that whatever I do I do to meet my needs fits perfectly with living and experiencing without holding back but with full engagement and joy.

And I experience that with this awareness and openess others benefit much more from my being than during the time I thought I was "doing good".

This may sound like an ego-trip but there is a difference. Hope I could point that out.

Greetings from another sunny day in Germany,
Marei



"Funda Oral" <fundaokan at superonline.com> schrieb:
> "Seeing us (os-folks) as doing something esp. valuable and deciding who to
> give it to and who not to I see a big danger in that thought. Even the idea
> of 'helping others to transform' includes the own judgment that the state
> they are in now is not okay and they should change. And it seems to include
> seeing oneself on a 'higher' level. And that is something to be very careful
> about, too."
> 
> Dear Marei,
> 
> This is also a challenge for me.....do the (my) right thing ....only for
> (my) responsibilities
> and not for "my ego" or not for (my) physical/psychological needs.
> 
> Still I must act, talk and live
> 
> Sometimes it is very dangerous also to say "us (os-folks)" or "me" or
> "my"....but we also have to say that with responsibility
> because we exist somehow.
> 
> And we shape the world with choices and decisions we make or we don't make.
> 
> And when it's the right time I guess it is also ok "to be proud of
> something", "to share a success" of course without taking
> others'space
> 
> Anyway, it is hard to explain but I just wanted to say;
> 
> yes to..."being sensual" but without being afraid of living, experiencing,
> playing your role openely, by being yourself as Harrison mentioned
> somewhere,
> 
> finding and defining "your" "my" "our" space again and again



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