AW: "Power to the people" or/and "showing people, what they had said" (LONG!)

[chris macrae]

You do make it sound as if open spaces are some rare event- around
London they are increasingly held almost every week if not more often -
largely because Young people movements seem to find such open meetings
as natural as water, at least when linked by a few dedicated pioneers
like those who have formed WTF and www.udoo.org have put in what has for
them been years of continuous effort;

why not start doing that in your area and by all mean share action
projects with London and elsewhere?

If we just published stuff ideas by net , in practice there are would
surely be both contextual conflicts as well as transferable resolutions;
and anyhow unless the culture of the local people is readied to adopt
open , I think a large part of the societal actionability won’t evolve
anyhow

So I beg to differ, London and I expect various other places are making
a very open demonstration and offer...

It also turns out that getting involved in hosting meetings is the way
to get really deeply socially networked, at least that's what my blog
tells me
http://www.ecademy.com/module.php?mod=blog&op=view&uid=2850

Having said the above; we'd like to be truly open at collaborating -
email is good to ask Londoners questions if there's something that looks
useful but is so far poorly documented. The more you try to change
-something l,ike www.bethechange.org.uk didn’t exist 3 months ago and is
now billed as a multi-country annual large event as well meetings (again
around London where its hosting started)  the more time starved it seems
one gets so please go gently with some of these folk who are already
working 25 hour days with our real and virtual lives

Chris macrae, wcbn007 at easynet.co.uk
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From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lucas
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Sent: 06 June 2004 15:22
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Subject: Re: AW: "Power to the people" or/and "showing people, what they
had said" (LONG!)

I can only bring my small frustration to this issue: there have been OS
gatherings in London (http://www.wtfcon.org) which I couldn't attend as
I live some 3 thousand miles away.

I know we all have to negotiate with reality, but to me the invitation
wasn't all that "open".  Did the internet-experienced, fast-typist
people write summaries which would be the starting point for those of
us outside the circle?  Not much, really.

Would I have wanted their restaurant napkin digitized and placed on the
'net?  Sure I would.  Anything better than this distance, if you ask
me!

Maybe this is a bit like open source in computers: volunteers (those
with passion and responsibility) do what they like (and so they
should), but someone might want to "pay" for "someone" doing what
nobody likes doing, just like IBM pays for specific tasks in Linux ...
hang on, documentation is also the boring part of coding a computer
program!!!  Maybe those of us who live far away should be able to
subscribe paying a small amount of cash - to pay for some note-takers.

It would be a non-compulsory, possibly nice, addition to the core
openspace itself.  A welcome one for the distanced.  *If* it doesn't
hurt the process - which is something for the experts (=those with
experience) here to say.

I *imagine* open space can swallow anything you throw at it, as long as
it doesn't close the space down.  I mean, people always bring in their
own previous "everything": languages, concepts, experience, passions,
personality, and skills.  If some in the groups have previously learned
to draw, to do lateral thinking, to play drama, to sing, whatever -
they may (or may not) use that.

So if someone opens the possibility of learning to draw before an OS
event, then maybe some of the participants will take that learning.  Is
there a HOW-TO somewhere?

Again, only my imagination at work here.

Awaiting your comments.  And, as usual, a big thank you.

Lucas

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