Seeking Feedback

Don Ferretti dferrett at placer.ca.gov
Mon Aug 2 11:55:39 PDT 2004


I've been part of having an OS as a "session" at a bigger conference.
The only problem that developed was that after the OS session people did
not want to go back to the little rooms, sit theater style, and listen
to talking heads. They wanted more OS - go figure!

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>>> koos at auryn.nl 08/02/04 11:08AM >>>
Joe,

I don't have experience with your number 2. but I can say something
about
number 1: OS as a taste for OS does not work. I tried it once and found
out
that there needs to be at least a theme that the crowd feels
passionate
about and is willing to take some responsability for. If those
conditions
are not met, all you have is an audience with no players. Everybody is
looking for something to happen and nothing happens because everybody
is
just looking. And that means there is not much to see and it is really
boring.

Best of luck,

Koos

At 10:35 2-8-2004, Joe Bowers wrote:
>I'm wondering if anybody has experience with:
>
>1. Doing a 1hour intro of OS at the beginning of a larger non OS
>conference to give people a taste for OS, eg as one approach which
might
>be taken at future conferences.
>
>2. Having OS as one Workshop option at a Conference - so people could
>choose to do traditional workshops or engage in a 2 or 4 hour OS.
>
>Thanks for any input.
>
>
>Joe Bowers
>The Centre for Success, Health & Happiness
>p: (612) 9858 1569
>m: 0403 395 488
><mailto:joe at successandhappiness.com.au>joe at successandhappiness.com.au

>www.successandhappiness.com.au
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>From  Tue Aug  3 13:41:23 2004
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Hi,

I recently used OST for the final day and a half of a six day Students
of Sustainability conference - http://sofs.org.au/. The sponsors wanted
to go straight to emergence/convergence as they would have had four days
of issue identification and discussion previously.  It worked
particularly well to the relief of the sponsors.  Apparently last year
they had attempted OST for the entire conference and ended up with very
few outcomes as.  The combination of 'traditional' conferencing followed
by OST worked effectively and I would use that format again in similar
circumstances.

Regards,

Mick

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I used OST for the second day of a four-day annual conference. This was
years before I knew better. I am now more skillful at negotiating with
conference organizers.

The leaders of workshops scheduled for the third and fourth days all
posted their passions in the OST and thus conducted their workshops on
the second day, and many had to cover the same material on the third and
fourth days.

The law of two feet is difficult to take back once it's in effect, and
conference organizers had to deal with unexpectedly fluid behavior on
the third and fourth days.

Many conference participants simply went skiing on the second day.
Butterflies wearing parkas, or the law of two skis.

The best way to blend OST and non-OST is to have the OST at the end,
serving an important purpose in the overall event, such as "what has not
been talked about so far" or "taking things deeper" or "where we go from
here." In my opinion.

Jeff Aitken
California

-----Original Message-----
From: Harrison Owen <hhowen at comcast.net>
Sent: Aug 2, 2004 5:37 AM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: Seeking Feedback

I would guess that many have tried and very few succeeded. Doing a
"demonstration" OS is a loser mostly because there is usually little
passion and responsibility -- the usual reaction is "Is that all their
is?"  As for OS in the context of a larger meeting (one track sort of
thing) -- I have tried it on several occasions -- none of them happily.
When faced with the sort of situation (opportunity?) you describe, I
will show a video (the USWEST video is great) and take questions. All
prefaced with a little history (Been around for 20 years, 50,000+
iterations, now 93 countries etc)

Harrison


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I'm wondering if anybody has experience with:
1. Doing a 1hour intro of OS at the beginning of a larger non OS
conference to give people a taste for OS, eg as one approach which might
be taken at future conferences. 2. Having OS as one Workshop option at a
Conference - so people could choose to do traditional workshops or
engage in a 2 or 4 hour OS. Thanks for any input. Joe Bowers The Centre
for Success, Health & Happiness
p: (612) 9858 1569
m: 0403 395 488
joe at successandhappiness.com.au
www.successandhappiness.com.au

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