[OSList] Who is BS-ing Whom?

Fri Jan 21 12:54:33 PST 2022

Ok... I don't know Mark or his motives.
I do think this is a topic worthy of serious and considered conversation.

The best example I have seen so far,
of someone who is in favor of vaccines, attempting to understand the
viewpoint of those who are hesitant or skeptical,
is Norman Doidge's four-part series called "Needlepoints".

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/needle-points-vaccinations-chapter-one

I don't know the author, but I sure wish I did...
apparently he's written a number of NYT best-sellers on neuroplasticity.
Very erudite person, and lovely writer.

And very thoughtful -- and thought-provoking -- perspectives.

all best wishes,

Rosaa

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On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 2:15 PM Koos de Heer via OSList <
oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Dear Mark,
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> The one and only burning question I have is: why???
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> Why do you post a quote like that, saying that it is not your words but
> posting it nonetheless? And when someone objects, you repeat the quote
> about society and truth, implying that you do indeed support the text you
> posted. And then you write that you agree with John that this kind of
> disinformation does not belong here. If you agree with that, why do you
> post it in the first place?
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> Is it just to play with us? To see who takes the bait and makes a fool of
> himself? If it is, PLEASE  go play somewhere else.
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> If this means I just made a fool of myself – so be it. It feels like
> bullying and I am sick of it. I want this to be a safe place.
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> Koos
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> *Van:* OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> *Namens *Mark
> Carmel via OSList
> *Verzonden:* donderdag 20 januari 2022 23:57
> *Aan:* John Watkins <johnw536 at mac.com>
> *CC:* Mark Carmel <markacarmel at gmail.com>; World wide Open Space
> Technology email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [OSList] Who is BS-ing Whom?
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> I agree with you John...
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> On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 3:38 PM John Watkins <johnw536 at mac.com> wrote:
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> I’m sorry but I do not think this kind of massive disinformation and
> political agenda belongs on this list.
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> Sent from John's iPhone
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> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:35 PM, Mark Carmel via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
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> These are not my thoughts or my words.  I Do not know the author.  But
> here is food for thought, or better put... here is a shot for a thought...
> that I wanted to share with YOU, the World's greatest peacemakers:
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> Quote from author unknown:   ...Among all the vaccines I have known in my
> life (diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, measles, rubella, chickenpox,
> hepatitis, meningitis and tuberculosis), I want to also add flu and
> pneumonia. I have never seen a vaccine that forced me to wear a mask and
> maintain my social distance, even when you are fully vaccinated. I had
> never heard of a vaccine that spreads the virus even after vaccination. I
> had never heard of rewards, discounts, incentives to get vaccinated. I
> never saw discrimination for those who didn't. If you haven't been
> vaccinated no one has tried to make you feel like a bad person. I have
> never seen a vaccine that threatens the relationship between family,
> colleagues and friends. I have never seen a vaccine used to threaten
> livelihoods, work or school. I have never seen a vaccine that would allow a
> 12-year-old to override parental consent. After all the vaccines I listed
> above, I have never seen a vaccine like this one, which discriminates,
> divides and judges society as it is. And as the social fabric tightens…
> It's a powerful vaccine! She does all these things except IMMUNIZATION. If
> we still need a booster dose after we are fully vaccinated, and we still
> need to get a negative test after we are fully vaccinated, and we still
> need to wear a mask after we are fully vaccinated, and still be
> hospitalized after we have been fully vaccinated, it will likely come to
> ...It's time for us to admit that we've been completely deceived...   I
> have decided to never refer to this conglomerate of chemicals as a
> ...vaccine.. again if at all possible.   It is not a legitimate vaccine, it
> is a manufactured composition of unknown substances pretending to be
> something it IS NOT.  So, for me, I will only refer to it as an INJECTION,
> which is being forced upon us to subject us to TOTAL AUTHORITATIVE CONTROL
> of every aspect of our lives until every human being on this planet has
> been made a subject of the ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT, ONE WORLD ECONOMY, ONE
> WORLD RELIGION just as has been foretold by many Prophecies in SCRIPTURE
> for untold years.  This so-called virus was instituted by design by those
> whose agendum is TOTAL population CONTROL...  -  B.S.
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> ...The further a society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those
> who speak it...--George Orwell
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> MC the MC
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