[OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 121, Issue 3

[Michael M Pannwitz]

Dear Gijs,

in my active os facilitation days (until 2012) I published detailed cost 
estimates. Looking at this one (in German)
> http://www.meine-openspace-praxis.de/Dateien/18-Kosten-3Tage-130TN.pdf

travelling costs did not show up. That had to do with the nature of the 
event. It took place in Berlin, so no travel costs for me. Most 
participants lived and worked in Berlin. Those from outside had their 
travel expenses paid by their organisations or they paid for them 
personally.

Looking at the sheet, I do see a number of items that were universal:

- The omnipresent buffet (Pausenloses Pausenbüffet) and the rent for the 
space (Raummiete) made up about one third of the cost
- The costs for the facilitation team, about one third of total cost
-The remaining third went for management of the event, Material, 
Planning Session, Next Meeting, advertising and miscellanious items

Looking at all of this it seems that real life os might cost more than 
virtual.

After 2012 until today, I was frequently contacted for collegiate advice 
or counselling (no wonder because the 2385 facilitators that took part 
in os-trainings I was involved in had "lifelong free consulting"). So, I 
was honored to be in touch with the trade.
One of the feedbacks I got is that an online version of a Planning 
Sessions for an os event is acceptable. Participants of those online 
Planning Sessions gave similar feedbacks that we regularly received 
after real life Planning Sessions, such as "never experienced a meeting 
as this one with such concrete outcomes in such a short time... and it 
was fun...". Of course, Planning Sessions in itself are not os-events... 
they do however produce only stuff that the participants themselves 
craft and cast into action.

Has anyone had the chance to get feedback from participants that 
experienced both real life and digital os events? Especially the 
experience of a full fledged 3-day event real life versus online?

Greetings from Berlin
mmp

-
Am 15.05.2021 um 04:29 schrieb Mega via OSList:
 > Re: virtual open space facilitator
 >
 > Following the earlier request, i have forwarded a choice of 
faciltators to the sponsor of the event.
 > It is an awakening for me to realize the impact covid had on group 
events and it's future. Sponsors seem to accept the reduced impact as it 
also reduces the (travelling) cost significantly.
 >
 >


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Michael M Pannwitz
Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
++49 - 30-772 8000     mmpannwitz at gmail.com