[OSList] This list serve is antiquated big time
Phelim McDermott
phelim at mac.com
Fri Jan 29 13:50:08 PST 2021
Hi Steve
There was a weird thing that happened to me with this list. a couple of years ago for some reason on my computer it stopped displaying who messages were from in their name, as it had done previously. So I had to hunt for their email to see who it was from further in the body of the email. This definitely put relationship One step away and meant i just didn't engage with the email as easily as I didn’t engage with the person first. This may be a simple settings thing in my computer that I haven't done. I love the simplicity of this list. But it didn’t quite build relationship in the same way.
Best Phelim
> On 29 Jan 2021, at 18:32, Steve Holyer via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Yep. This OSList works for me. Adding my thanks to the past moderators, the contributors, and Harold.
>
> And I’m glad the openness is in keeping with this community. I wouldn’t change it.
>
> And I was online back in the 80s and for sure then 90s when listservs were all the rage.
>
> i wonder if the retro look and feel and operation of a mailing list is something of a barrier to entry for folks who never participated in a listserv discussion—or who prefer a new fangled something or other? I wouldn’t change it, but could we find a welcoming (and open) way to invite more people? I don’t know what that is. Maybe just a youtube video on how to connect with the community via the mailing list. (Even having Harrison’s response on the history and openness of the list helps me connect to the list and not be put off by it. I appreciate it more after reading this thread, and I appreciate it before. So maybe just a way to to pin Harrisons words to the signup and archive page would be useful. I think just pinning a long threaded list of messages to include this whole thread wouldn’t really speak to the people who might be put off by long list of mails in a thread already :D — but a summary, or a video with some choice quotes could be helpful! ;)
>
> I’m not passionate enough about this issue to be the person to find an answer. (Or is it not responsible enough to stick around on this question.) Don’t want to put more load on Harold either.
>
> And I think this is a question worth asking at least, to see how it’s answered.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve
>
> On 29 Jan 2021, at 17:59, Tony Budak via OSList wrote:
>
> No Not antiquated. I could not agree more with Harrison. This is a very effective list serve. Thank you again, Harrison.
>
> Cheers,
> Tony
>
> On 1/29/2021 11:53 AM, Harrison Owen SR via OSList wrote:
> Oh Yes... OSLIST started as a phone operated bulletin board. And for sure it doesn't exist in 4 colors/touch screen. BUT it has probably existed as long or longer than any competitors, is searchable, carries the thinking/sweat/arguments of those who discovered living in Open Space (that would be 1000's) and Harold (the most recent curator) has done a marvelous job. Thanks. Could it be better? Sure... but it has worked for ? (20??)years! And please don't fix it if it ain't broke...
>
> ho
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:39 AM Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> Michael,
>
> Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. And I also know I could do better. Thank you as well for helping out with the admin work for the OSList.
>
> I couldn't see an easy way to see the count via the Archives. But looking at my own stash of the emails, I counted 42.9k messages since the first one in December of 1996 back in the old Boise State University LISTSERV (OSLIST at IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU <mailto:OSLIST at IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>) days.
>
> Harold
> On 1/28/21 4:48 PM, Michael Herman via OSList wrote:
> Great job, and big thanks Harold. You’re the only reason the list still exists in this open, free, independent way.
>
> And just so everyone can notice the scale of the thing, how many messages have we posted here so far?
>
> Cuz it’s not just about updating or swapping email tools, folks. Harold has managed this so that we still have and can search every message ever sent through the list. Amazing!
>
> I know we passed 30000 some time ago but couldn’t guess what the total is now. I can’t figure where to look it up anymore. Do you have that number, Harold?
>
> Thanks, Michael
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 08:40 Birgitt Williams via OSList oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> Thank you Harold,
> I love the simplicity that has been maintained for our email list, and the independence to the extent possible for us to be in a platform that supports us. Thank you for your work on this over many years, and also to those who preceded you.
>
> A super super simple way to pay attention to the list, and to follow threads really really easily is to use the GREAT feature of the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>. Every post gets placed in the archives, the archives are searchable. When something that is posted catches my attention, it is easy to go to the archives to see what I may have missed in the thread and also simultaneously by topic access what has been discussed in relation to the topic over the years.
>
> in genuine contact,
> Birgitt
>
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>
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> On 29 Jan 2021, at 18:27, info via OSList wrote:
>
> Hear hear.
> Love it!
> Tonnie
>
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> -------- Oorspronkelijk bericht --------
> Van: Tony Budak via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Datum: 29-01-2021 17:59 (GMT+01:00)
> Aan: Harrison Owen SR via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Cc: Tony Budak <tonybudak at tbmw.org>
> Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] This list serve is antiquated big time
>
> No Not antiquated. I could not agree more with Harrison. This is a very effective list serve. Thank you again, Harrison.
>
> Cheers,
> Tony
>
> On 1/29/2021 11:53 AM, Harrison Owen SR via OSList wrote:
>> Oh Yes... OSLIST started as a phone operated bulletin board. And for sure it doesn't exist in 4 colors/touch screen. BUT it has probably existed as long or longer than any competitors, is searchable, carries the thinking/sweat/arguments of those who discovered living in Open Space (that would be 1000's) and Harold (the most recent curator) has done a marvelous job. Thanks. Could it be better? Sure... but it has worked for ? (20??)years! And please don't fix it if it ain't broke...
>>
>> ho
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:39 AM Harold Shinsato via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>> Michael,
>>
>> Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. And I also know I could do better. Thank you as well for helping out with the admin work for the OSList.
>>
>> I couldn't see an easy way to see the count via the Archives. But looking at my own stash of the emails, I counted 42.9k messages since the first one in December of 1996 back in the old Boise State University LISTSERV (OSLIST at IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU <mailto:OSLIST at IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>) days.
>>
>> Harold
>>
>> On 1/28/21 4:48 PM, Michael Herman via OSList wrote:
>>> Great job, and big thanks Harold. You’re the only reason the list still exists in this open, free, independent way.
>>>
>>> And just so everyone can notice the scale of the thing, how many messages have we posted here so far?
>>>
>>> Cuz it’s not just about updating or swapping email tools, folks. Harold has managed this so that we still have and can search every message ever sent through the list. Amazing!
>>>
>>> I know we passed 30000 some time ago but couldn’t guess what the total is now. I can’t figure where to look it up anymore. Do you have that number, Harold?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 08:40 Birgitt Williams via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>>> Thank you Harold,
>>> I love the simplicity that has been maintained for our email list, and the independence to the extent possible for us to be in a platform that supports us. Thank you for your work on this over many years, and also to those who preceded you.
>>>
>>> A super super simple way to pay attention to the list, and to follow threads really really easily is to use the GREAT feature of the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>. Every post gets placed in the archives, the archives are searchable. When something that is posted catches my attention, it is easy to go to the archives to see what I may have missed in the thread and also simultaneously by topic access what has been discussed in relation to the topic over the years.
>>>
>>> in genuine contact,
>>> Birgitt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Birgitt Williams
>>> Senior consultant-author-mentor to leaders and consultants
>>> Specialist in organizational and systemic transformation, leadership development, and the power of nourishing a culture of leadership.
>>> www.dalarinternational.com <http://www.dalarinternational.com/>
>>>
>>
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