[OSList] Reply to Jeff Aitken on Four Fold Way of Leadership... It Ain't Working Brother...

[Mark Carmel]

Jeff,
 Thank you very much for your thoughtful reply to my post ... predicting
the future, toe the party line, rise to the top, do otherwise you go to the
bottom... Your reply referred me to the four fold way of leadership to
...speak your truth without blame or judgement...  That's a wonderful warm
and fuzzy thought Jeff but it is not practical and it is not practiced in
the real world. It is not working. Let's look at the best example of
leadership right now in the world. That is America and the outcome of an
election. Let's take a close look at the winners who swept all seats of
power and have now the total, coveted control and power over the entire
government with which to lead.   Do the winners speak their truth (now that
they won) without blame or judgment?  Did the winners speak their truth
without blame or judgment in order to win?  The answers are very clear
Jeff. Hell no.  Speaking your truth with a lot of blame and a lot of
judgment is THE way to gain leadership power and control as we've just
witnessed. To believe that this is not true is simply naive if one observes
real world leadership results. The 2nd point the 4 four fold way makes
regarding the principle of speaking your truth without blame or judgment,
Is that ...your truth is not THE truth... When you consider how divided
America is now around who is telling the truth, do you really think that
the winners of the election believe that their truth is not THE truth
Jeff?  The four fold way sounds good Jeff, a vision, but not a reality if
one faces facts about how and why leaders rise to power.  Tow the party
line folks, said another way is as follows ... Respect and obey your
leaders and you will rise to the top. Disagree and find faults with your
leaders, by sharing your four fold way feelings about what is wrong and
what could be better, and you will go downward. Not my truth, THE truth.
Leadership loyalty is THE only way to not put yourself .... and others we
try to bring in the safe space.... into harms way.  The rules have changed.
And rules is rules.
MC

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> Mark, you seem to be feeling a lot of distress. Just wanted to say that,
> and I am glad you are sharing with the open space community. "Speak your
> truth, without blame or judgement" said Angeles Arrien in the Fourfold Way.
> I don't know what else to say.
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> Jeff
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> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021, 9:08 PM Tony Budak via OSList <
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> > I prefer to tow a parallel line of conversation leading to a change of
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> > The future is CLEAR
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