[OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

Jake Yeager jacob.yeager at gmail.com
Sun Feb 9 09:09:12 PST 2020


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On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 10:40 PM Michael Herman <michael at michaelherman.com>
wrote:

> Missed this earlier, Jake.  Sometimes review starts at the end of the last
> session and gives last conveners a little extra time to write their notes
> up.  Sometimes, in one-day sessions, I've used the gallery approach that
> mmp invented years ago.  Give each breakout space flipchart paper, but give
> each convener a single sheet of posterboard to digest their info from flips
> to the poster board.  Easier to understand, easier to photo.  Put them all
> on the same wall, easier to read as a large group.  With a day and a half,
> I'd build the gallery time into the breakfast time.  Read and eat and be
> ready to go at X time.  If the diverging was finished on day one and day
> two is about converging again, then there's no need for morning news.  The
> news is:  we have a new challenge/task to do together.  But no matter how
> you slice it, if you want them to DO something with the data on the wall,
> they'll need a little bit of time to look it over.  Also, the usual
> invitation is to pay special attention to the sessions they missed, rather
> than those they attended.  Putting names of conveners and participants on
> these notes encourages conversations, questions, clarifications, etc.  MH
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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> Michael Herman
> Michael Herman Associates
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> MichaelHerman.com
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>
>
> On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 4:28 PM Jake Yeager via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> Hey Michael Pannwitz,
>>
>> I had Michael Herman in mind, but I'd love to extend the question to
>> everyone.
>>
>> Thanks for the question. :)
>>
>> Jake
>>
>>
>> ________________
>>
>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
>> you will be free of problems.
>>  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 6:16 PM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Jake,
>>> which Michael are your thinking of?
>>> mmp
>>>
>>> Am 08.02.2020 um 18:13 schrieb Jake Yeager via OSList:
>>> > Michael and Chris - do you allot time to review the notes prior to
>>> > organizing them?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 10:14 AM Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com
>>> > <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     Again, a bunch of great ideas and perspectives on this thread.
>>> >
>>> >     After considering it more, I am going to propose to the sponsor
>>> that
>>> >     we adjust our convergence process. Per Michael and Chris's
>>> >     suggestions, I will propose that participants organize the notes
>>> >     into themes. This will assist meaning-making and pattern
>>> >     recognition. Then, I will invite participants to vote on the themes
>>> >     that they would like to see turned into OKRs. The top 3 get turned
>>> >     into OKRs using the iterative sprints.
>>> >
>>> >     This approach seems more organic and simple. It also seems to flow
>>> >     better, and it requires less facilitation.
>>> >
>>> >     I also like Ilan's ideas about structuring the notes towards the
>>> >     outcomes. I may also incorporate that.
>>> >
>>> >     Thanks again!
>>> >
>>> >     ________________
>>> >
>>> >     When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once
>>> again,
>>> >     and you will be free of problems.
>>> >       - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 4:42 AM Ilan Kirschenbaum
>>> >     <ilan at practical-agile.com <mailto:ilan at practical-agile.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >         Extending this to an Open Space format, let the structure guide
>>> >         the outcomes.
>>> >         For example, have the session summary sheets have, in addition
>>> >         to topic, convener and participants, titles for Main Objective
>>> >         and for Key Results. You may wish to add (see if you can find
>>> >         about 3 SMART key results) - if you want to guide participants
>>> >         towards the OKRs concept. That said with a invitation to favor
>>> >         the more open and the less prescriptive approach.
>>> >
>>> >         As for the initiatives session, one thing we had at a client is
>>> >         to prepare a large board with a table having tall rubrics for
>>> Os
>>> >         on the left side, and wider and shorter rubrics for KRs in the
>>> >         right.
>>> >         During this session, participants - conveners and other - were
>>> >         invited to place their Os and KRs in the board and share what
>>> >         they found passion and responsibility for to take forward.
>>> >         In effect, that way self-organized teams were formed to make
>>> >         these initiatives happen.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >         On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 6:15 Chris Corrigan via OSList
>>> >         <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>>> >         <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >             No...  If the sponsor already knows which OKR’s will
>>> matter,
>>> >             then that would be “pre-set” answers, and I would forget
>>> >             about open space. But specifying that “we are trying to
>>> >             generate new OKRs” is a fine invitation, because it’s open
>>> >             and the sponsor should be generally curious about what will
>>> >             come out of it and how results will be used.
>>> >
>>> >             Chris
>>> >
>>> >>             On Feb 6, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Jake Yeager via OSList
>>> >>             <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>>> >>             <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>             Reviewing again this article
>>> >>             <
>>> https://www.openspaceworld.org/files/tmnfiles/choosingopenspace(Bolton).html
>>> >
>>> >>             by Diane Blair. She mentions two critical success factors
>>> >>             for Open Space. One is that the sponsor does not have
>>> >>             "pre-set outcomes." Would generating OKRs be considered a
>>> >>             pre-set outcome you think?
>>> >>             ________________
>>> >>
>>> >>             When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine
>>> >>             once again, and you will be free of problems.
>>> >>              - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>             On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 6:05 PM Jake Yeager
>>> >>             <jacob.yeager at gmail.com <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>
>>> >>             wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>                 Oops. It's 1.5 days I mean.
>>> >>                 ________________
>>> >>
>>> >>                 When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will
>>> >>                 shine once again, and you will be free of problems.
>>> >>                  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>                 On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:39 PM Jake Yeager
>>> >>                 <jacob.yeager at gmail.com
>>> >>                 <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>                     Thank you everyone for your feedback! It is much
>>> >>                     welcomed, and you have provided a lot to chew on.
>>> >>                     It's such a treat to hear from experienced
>>> >>                     practitioners.
>>> >>
>>> >>                     Some info:
>>> >>
>>> >>                       * I have one day for the event
>>> >>                       * There are about 30 participants: assistant
>>> >>                         managers to the SVP
>>> >>                       * Objectives are strategic initiatives, and key
>>> >>                         results are how you measure your success
>>> >>                       * We need to define both objectives and key
>>> >>                         results by the end of the day: so, it's a
>>> >>                         tight time-frame
>>> >>
>>> >>                     At this moment, I feel that I am too far down the
>>> >>                     line with the sponsor to switch up the schedule
>>> >>                     too much.
>>> >>
>>> >>                     I learned 25/10 Crowdsourcing in my Open Space
>>> >>                     Genuine Contact training for formulating
>>> >>                     recommendations and have found it to work well.
>>> >>                     That said, I am open to learning how to let go of
>>> >>                     control even more and will explore the many
>>> >>                     options provided on this thread for future events.
>>> >>                     I'm definitely open to learning more about how I
>>> >>                     can work "less hard" per Michael Pannwitz's
>>> >>                     comment. :)
>>> >>
>>> >>                     Also, I have incorporated some of your suggestions
>>> >>                     in my "convergence" design:
>>> >>
>>> >>                       * After the group generates the top 10 draft
>>> >>                         objectives from 25/10 Crowdsourcing, I will
>>> >>                         invite the group to arrange them into 3 themes
>>> >>                         rather than voting on them.
>>> >>                       * I will invite self-organization to refine the
>>> >>                         themes in parallel. The group members will be
>>> >>                         able to choose which theme(s) they want to
>>> >>                         refine (or not) in a series of sprints with
>>> >>                         sprint reviews. The same setup with key
>>> results.
>>> >>
>>> >>                     Learning as I go as we all do. :)
>>> >>
>>> >>                     Much love,
>>> >>                     Jake
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>                     ________________
>>> >>
>>> >>                     When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will
>>> >>                     shine once again, and you will be free of
>>> problems.
>>> >>                      - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>                     On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 6:14 PM Thomas Herrmann
>>> >>                     <thomas at openspaceconsulting.com
>>> >>                     <mailto:thomas at openspaceconsulting.com>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>                         Dear Jake____
>>> >>
>>> >>                         I don’t fully understand, of course, but am
>>> >>                         wondering what the purpose/expected outcome is
>>> >>                         for this development process and also there
>>> >>                         must be no more than 3 O’s? I understand they
>>> >>                         are not yet defined, but should be
>>> >>                         identified/agreed on in the OST?____
>>> >>
>>> >>                         My experience from similar situations is that
>>> >>                         it is not that well thought through or that
>>> >>                         the opportunities at hand if choosing to use
>>> >>                         OST are not fully understood.____
>>> >>
>>> >>                         Good night from Sweden____
>>> >>
>>> >>                         Thomas Herrmann____
>>> >>
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>>> >>                         *För *Jake Yeager via OSList
>>> >>                         *Skickat:* den 5 februari 2020 00:57
>>> >>                         *Till:* World wide Open Space Technology email
>>> >>                         list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
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>>> >>                         *Kopia:* Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com
>>> >>                         <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>
>>> >>                         *Ämne:* [OSList] From Open Space to objectives
>>> >>                         and key results (OKRs)?____
>>> >>
>>> >>                         __ __
>>> >>
>>> >>                         Hi folks,____
>>> >>
>>> >>                         __ __
>>> >>
>>> >>                         Anyone have experience using Open Space to
>>> >>                         develop OKRs with a group?____
>>> >>
>>> >>                         __ __
>>> >>
>>> >>                         I am facilitating an Open Space event in late
>>> >>                         February. I plan to use the 25/10
>>> >>                         Crowdsourcing method to prioritize draft
>>> >>                         objectives (O's) and then 1-2-4-All to develop
>>> >>                         the key results (KR's) for each objective.
>>> ____
>>> >>
>>> >>                         __ __
>>> >>
>>> >>                         The sponsor wants a maximum of 3 objectives.
>>> >>                         It might get a little hairy if the clear
>>> >>                         cutoff for the 25/10 Crowdsourcing is greater
>>> >>                         than 3. Guess I could use voting to narrow it
>>> >>                         down. Also, I am exploring if consent
>>> >>                         decision-making could be useful. The sponsor
>>> >>                         might need to make a final call on the top 3
>>> >>                         if the group is split.____
>>> >>
>>> >>                         __ __
>>> >>
>>> >>                         Thanks and much love,____
>>> >>
>>> >>                         Jake
>>> >>                         ____
>>> >>
>>> >>                         ____________________
>>> >>
>>> >>                         __ __
>>> >>
>>> >>                         When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart
>>> >>                         will shine once again, and you will be free of
>>> >>                         problems.____
>>> >>
>>> >>                          - Robert Adams
>>> >>                         <http://www.robert-adams.info/>____
>>> >>
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>>> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
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>>> > you will be free of problems.
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