[OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

Birgitt Williams birgitt at dalarinternational.com
Thu Feb 6 16:44:33 PST 2020


Hi Jake,
i believe it is helpful to conceptualize that the OST meeting is what takes
place, and it supports divergent, innovative thinking, creativity, play.
Then, when you get to the balance of what you are setting out to do which I
am assuming is on the .5 day following the full OST day, you are in a
process that is not OST. It requires a more guided process, convergent
thinking and at that point there is seldom space for new ideas. I believe
one way to be successful is to have one after the other, making a clear
distinction between the two...a whole different energy is created.

in genuine contact,
Birgitt

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On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 6:59 PM Jake Yeager via OSList <
oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Reviewing again this article
> <https://www.openspaceworld.org/files/tmnfiles/choosingopenspace(Bolton).html>
> by Diane Blair. She mentions two critical success factors for Open Space.
> One is that the sponsor does not have "pre-set outcomes." Would generating
> OKRs be considered a pre-set outcome you think?
> ________________
>
> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
> you will be free of problems.
>  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 6:05 PM Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oops. It's 1.5 days I mean.
>> ________________
>>
>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
>> you will be free of problems.
>>  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:39 PM Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you everyone for your feedback! It is much welcomed, and you have
>>> provided a lot to chew on. It's such a treat to hear from experienced
>>> practitioners.
>>>
>>> Some info:
>>>
>>>    - I have one day for the event
>>>    - There are about 30 participants: assistant managers to the SVP
>>>    - Objectives are strategic initiatives, and key results are how you
>>>    measure your success
>>>    - We need to define both objectives and key results by the end of
>>>    the day: so, it's a tight time-frame
>>>
>>> At this moment, I feel that I am too far down the line with the sponsor
>>> to switch up the schedule too much.
>>>
>>> I learned 25/10 Crowdsourcing in my Open Space Genuine Contact training
>>> for formulating recommendations and have found it to work well. That said,
>>> I am open to learning how to let go of control even more and will explore
>>> the many options provided on this thread for future events. I'm definitely
>>> open to learning more about how I can work "less hard" per Michael
>>> Pannwitz's comment. :)
>>>
>>> Also, I have incorporated some of your suggestions in my "convergence"
>>> design:
>>>
>>>    - After the group generates the top 10 draft objectives from 25/10
>>>    Crowdsourcing, I will invite the group to arrange them into 3 themes rather
>>>    than voting on them.
>>>    - I will invite self-organization to refine the themes in parallel.
>>>    The group members will be able to choose which theme(s) they want to refine
>>>    (or not) in a series of sprints with sprint reviews. The same setup with
>>>    key results.
>>>
>>> Learning as I go as we all do. :)
>>>
>>> Much love,
>>> Jake
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________
>>>
>>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
>>> you will be free of problems.
>>>  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 6:14 PM Thomas Herrmann <
>>> thomas at openspaceconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Jake
>>>>
>>>> I don’t fully understand, of course, but am wondering what the
>>>> purpose/expected outcome is for this development process and also there
>>>> must be no more than 3 O’s? I understand they are not yet defined, but
>>>> should be identified/agreed on in the OST?
>>>>
>>>> My experience from similar situations is that it is not that well
>>>> thought through or that the opportunities at hand if choosing to use OST
>>>> are not fully understood.
>>>>
>>>> Good night from Sweden
>>>>
>>>> Thomas Herrmann
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Från:* OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> *För *Jake
>>>> Yeager via OSList
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>>>> *Ämne:* [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have experience using Open Space to develop OKRs with a group?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am facilitating an Open Space event in late February. I plan to use
>>>> the 25/10 Crowdsourcing method to prioritize draft objectives (O's) and
>>>> then 1-2-4-All to develop the key results (KR's) for each objective.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The sponsor wants a maximum of 3 objectives. It might get a little
>>>> hairy if the clear cutoff for the 25/10 Crowdsourcing is greater than 3.
>>>> Guess I could use voting to narrow it down. Also, I am exploring if consent
>>>> decision-making could be useful. The sponsor might need to make a final
>>>> call on the top 3 if the group is split.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks and much love,
>>>>
>>>> Jake
>>>>
>>>> ________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
>>>> and you will be free of problems.
>>>>
>>>>  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>>>
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