[OSList] Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and change

C. Fuller chrlsful at aol.com
Sat Apr 4 14:10:13 PDT 2020


“...most important pre-work is asking who are the people who care? And the most time consuming pre-work is inviting them...”

I’d tend to agree and say that many who don’t care are the very 1s we need to bring in. There’s reasons they don’t care & that’s just Y they need to B included. This is Y I call OST a 'Community Process'. (not corporate as in alota multi-nationals). whole systems

 

“...because everyone who needed to be involved was present...”

I’m saying many of these not involved need to be present.  2 me OST is abt the universe not some small select component. Ie: all Bd members, all janitors...Last comment,  I may B misinterpreting, back to lurkin~

- -Chad

   (1 of the Big6 [gender, age, class, sexuality, race, ability] with alota personal intersectionality)






-----Original Message-----
From: oslist-request <oslist-request at lists.openspacetech.org>
To: oslist <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
Sent: Sat, Apr 4, 2020 4:32 pm
Subject: OSList Digest, Vol 108, Issue 3

Send OSList mailing list submissions to
    oslist at lists.openspacetech.org

To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
    http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
    oslist-request at lists.openspacetech.org

You can reach the person managing the list at
    oslist-owner at lists.openspacetech.org

When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than "Re: Contents of OSList digest..."


Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and change
      (Peggy Holman)
  2. open space online (Alexander Schilling)
  3. Re: open space online (Thomas Herrmann)
  4. Re: open space online (Bhavesh Patel)
  5. Re: OSList Digest, Vol 108, Issue 2 (anne stadler)
  6. Re: Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and change
      (Chris Corrigan)
  7. Our gifts for crisis and change::OSList Digest, Vol 108,
      Issue 2 (C. Fuller)
  8. Re: Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and change
      (Dr. Christian Kemper)
  9. Re: Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and change
      (Phelim McDermott)
  10. Re: Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and change
      (Michael M Pannwitz)
  11. Re: open space online (Alexander Schilling)
  12. Re: Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and change
      (Tony Budak)
  13. Re: open space online (Rolf Schneidereit)


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message: 1
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 13:43:50 -0700
From: Peggy Holman <peggy at peggyholman.com>
To: Open Space Listserv <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
Subject: Re: [OSList] Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and
    change
Message-ID: <3D751A40-54FC-4B93-9651-8C709A598F05 at peggyholman.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I think the two of you are talking about two distinct but related aspects: inviting the diversity of the system and welcoming who ? and what ? shows up.

I think the most important pre-work is asking who are the people who care? And the most time consuming pre-work is inviting them. 

Marv Weisbord and Sandra Janoff?s acronym for thinking about who the people who care are is a handy way to make visible who to invite. And, as Michael says, it likely surfaces people that you might not have considered otherwise. They suggest the people who ?ARE IN? ? with authority, resources, expertise, information and need. For most gatherings, I also add a demographic dimension, considering what elements might be relevant like age, race, gender, geography, economics, political perspective, religion.

And then, of course, welcome whomever shows up. Strangers often bring critical pieces of the puzzle. I remember an early story from you Harrison. Rockport Shoes, where a security guard walking through the factory where an OS gathering was underway saying Rockport Shoes were wimpy. And that sparked a whole new product designed and developed in real time because everyone who needed to be involved was present.

Stay well,
Peggy




________________________________
Peggy Holman
Co-founder
Journalism That Matters
15347 SE 49th Place
Bellevue, WA  98006
206-948-0432
www.journalismthatmatters.org
www.peggyholman.com
Twitter: @peggyholman
JTM Twitter: @JTMStream

Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning?Upheaval into Opportunity <http://www.engagingemergence.com/>









> On Apr 3, 2020, at 1:29 PM, Harrison Owen via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> 
> Exchange... yes. And on that note I might suggest that "getting the whole system in the room" (Marv Weisbord's phrase) is certainly related to the idea of diversity -- but not quite the same thing a my meaning when I described "diversity" as one of the critical five preconditions for self organization. My understanding of diversity may be achieved when "all who care" are there (for the OS). "Caring" is the operative word. Putting it simply: "If you care, you got to be there." "Those who care might include: The whole system, less than the whole system, or more. I've had the experience (as I am sure you have as well, Michael) when total onlookers, just casual observers, suddenly discover that they have an interest, some input -- and actually care. Sometimes they just stand in the doorways, but on occasion they just moved right in and took over -- to the benefit of everybody. Why or how -- who knows??? But they cared! I've seen this happen often enough that I added another little remi
 nder to myself and whomsoever..."Honor the Stranger." They always show up and their gifts can be extravagant. Strangers in out midst is by no means a bad thing.
> 
> Harrison
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Rolf Schneidereit via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Cc: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
> Sent: Fri, Apr 3, 2020 3:24 am
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and change
> 
> Dear Rolf,
> 
> exchange is what OSLIST thrives on.
> 
> For me, it is (was) THE  worldwide place for reflecting and learning and 
> unfolding about my working and living as an os facilitator... in 
> addition to my regular interaction in local, regional and worldwide 
> OSonOS, including the Stammtische in Berlin (inactive for the duration 
> of physical contact restrictions with the hope that the WOSonOS in 
> Berlin in October of this year will be possible and, of course, 
> Stammtische again...).
> 
> Looking at the 5 or so prerequisites for the unfolding of 
> selforganisation (the center of my craft), I have always looked 
> specifically at "diversity" (or as some say "getting the whole system in 
> the room") and advocated that our os-exchanges would profit from high 
> diversity as far as participants are concerned. I always felt that 
> "diversity" was one of the prerequisites that we have some influence in. 
> For instance, who all we would invite to our events (including OSLIST).
> 
> Looking at that aspect, diversity can be expanded in the same way as we 
> suggest to our clients. Usually, we ask some simple questions in the 
> planning stage of an event, such as "who all needs to be at the event to 
> increase the chance for fullfilling both our aspirations we have around 
> the "burning business issue" and the chance for action on the stuff that 
> we feel needs to be taken?".
> 
> Often, I have found that in answering this question some pretty relevant 
> groups were not in focus, such as "the customer" which, in a school 
> setting, might be the students, in a parish the folks that attend the 
> worships, in a company that specialises on "customer tailored 
> nutritional products" the consumers of those products... or, in an os 
> for the future of an NGO the folks that provide the finances or the 
> government agencies that are needed for cooperation or the competitors 
> in the same or related fields.
> 
> Now, my and the efforts of others to increase "diversity" in "our" 
> events have been only partially successful. Asking ourselves the 
> "diversity" question certainly surface those that should be invited. For 
> an Open Space Learning Exchange or other events we invite to for 
> reflection and learning  etc. that might be:
> 
> --- our clients
> --- children
> --- scholars, scientists, researchers
> --- facilitators of all kinds
> --- caterers
> --- facility managers
> --- event managers in hotels etc. where os events take place
> --- journalists (newspapers, scientific journals, radio, TV, internet...)
> --- non-facilitators that are curious
> --- former participants of os events
> --- writers that have produced works around ost
> ---
> ---
> 
> If we had a planning meeting, this list would certainly be expanded.
> 
> In this spirit, we would help expand time and space for 
> selforganisation... any time, corona, war, hurricanes, climate change, 
> you name it... even in peace and other happy times.
> 
> Apart from expanding on this I presently am participating in efforts in 
> my immediate familiy, our neighborhood, in Berlin and so on, to slow 
> down the spread of Corona to find ways to live with it.
> 
> Personally, I am enjoying some of the side effects of the presently 
> challenging situation: practically no contrails over Berlin with clear 
> skies and many more stars than usual, the reduction of noise (hardly any 
> cars), the enormous unfolding of actions in civil society... in the face 
> of closed schools, limiting contact restrictions, a dearth of protective 
> masks, shortage of toilet paper... what have you.
> 
> Greetings from Berlin and looking forward to analog hugs maybe 
> definitely at the WOSonOS this fall
> mmp
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am 31.03.2020 um 09:46 schrieb Rolf Schneidereit via OSList:
> > Dear Mates,
> > 
> > would like to get your feedback. I'm wondering: is now the time to intensify the exchange between tribes like Art of Hosting, Open Space, Liberating Structures, World Caf?; Theory U and many others?
> > 
> > With all individual differences - we share extraordinary times. We're facing an urgent crisis which will cost many lives, we're shure to expect the next economical crisis and we're amid the fast expanding crisis of the ecosystem and the climate.
> > 
> > Could it be helpful in this situation if the different streams for liberation, participation, collective intelligence, deep dialogue and so on comes together to share their insights, their initiatives, their gifts? How can we support each other to support the common good and the necessary transition?
> > 
> > What do you think and sense? I'm going to sent this question to the AoH- and the OS-List. If this call resonates with you feel free to sent it to other communities you belong to.
> > 
> > And how?
> > The idea appears after a virtual Open Space. One insight: We can do a really large gathering online. After that I've offered Lucas Cioffi from Qiqochat a sponsorship for an online event with up to 300 participants but he declined: He will offer the use of Qiqochat for such an event for free! What we can do there (for example):
> > - Check-in (perhaps as Impromptu Networking)
> > - conversation caf? in small circles (recommendation of Christine Koehler)
> > - Open Space
> > - Harvesting
> > - Check-out
> > 
> > If there is a encouraging feedback the next step will be a first preparation (zoom) call. Can you imagine to support and host such a call?
> > 
> > Looking forward to your response
> > (or not - following the Law of two feets)
> > 
> > Rolf
> > _______________________________________________
> > OSList mailing list
> > To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:OSList at lists.openspacetech.org>
> > To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org>
> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org>
> > Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Michael M Pannwitz
> Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
> ++49 - 30-772 8000
> mmpannwitz at gmail.com <mailto:mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
> 
> 
> Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 492 resident Open 
> Space Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 142 countries worldwide
> www.openspaceworldmap.org
> 
> At my publisher you find books and task cards on open space and other 
> treasures, most in German, some in English, some as ebooks, some 
> multilingual
> https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Kommunikation <https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Kommunikation>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> OSList mailing list
> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:OSList at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org>
> Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>_______________________________________________
> OSList mailing list
> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20200403/98db6b1e/attachment-0001.html>

------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 22:52:56 +0200
From: Alexander Schilling <alexander.schilling at raumfuer.de>
To: Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>, World wide Open Space
    Technology email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
Subject: [OSList] open space online
Message-ID: <E78CBCF3-93A3-4D75-B993-3328C98D4CA7 at raumfuer.de>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi all, 

peparing my next open spaces , i would like to ask you: which tool - beside the combination of video-chat and mural/googledocs-like tools - would you recommend to do an open space online. Is there an all in one solution, readily prepared for online open spaces? I need it for less and for more, than 50 people.

Alexander Schilling
 
Fon +49 40 32 84 51 16
Mob. +49 177 7531168

www.raumfuer.de
www.twitter.com

> Am 03.04.2020 um 22:29 schrieb Harrison Owen via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
> 
> Exchange... yes. And on that note I might suggest that "getting the whole system in the room" (Marv Weisbord's phrase) is certainly related to the idea of diversity -- but not quite the same thing a my meaning when I described "diversity" as one of the critical five preconditions for self organization. My understanding of diversity may be achieved when "all who care" are there (for the OS). "Caring" is the operative word. Putting it simply: "If you care, you got to be there." "Those who care might include: The whole system, less than the whole system, or more. I've had the experience (as I am sure you have as well, Michael) when total onlookers, just casual observers, suddenly discover that they have an interest, some input -- and actually care. Sometimes they just stand in the doorways, but on occasion they just moved right in and took over -- to the benefit of everybody. Why or how -- who knows??? But they cared! I've seen this happen often enough that I added another little remi
 nder to myself and whomsoever..."Honor the Stranger." They always show up and their gifts can be extravagant. Strangers in out midst is by no means a bad thing.
> 
> Harrison
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Rolf Schneidereit via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Cc: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
> Sent: Fri, Apr 3, 2020 3:24 am
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and change
> 
> Dear Rolf,
> 
> exchange is what OSLIST thrives on.
> 
> For me, it is (was) THE  worldwide place for reflecting and learning and 
> unfolding about my working and living as an os facilitator... in 
> addition to my regular interaction in local, regional and worldwide 
> OSonOS, including the Stammtische in Berlin (inactive for the duration 
> of physical contact restrictions with the hope that the WOSonOS in 
> Berlin in October of this year will be possible and, of course, 
> Stammtische again...).
> 
> Looking at the 5 or so prerequisites for the unfolding of 
> selforganisation (the center of my craft), I have always looked 
> specifically at "diversity" (or as some say "getting the whole system in 
> the room") and advocated that our os-exchanges would profit from high 
> diversity as far as participants are concerned. I always felt that 
> "diversity" was one of the prerequisites that we have some influence in. 
> For instance, who all we would invite to our events (including OSLIST).
> 
> Looking at that aspect, diversity can be expanded in the same way as we 
> suggest to our clients. Usually, we ask some simple questions in the 
> planning stage of an event, such as "who all needs to be at the event to 
> increase the chance for fullfilling both our aspirations we have around 
> the "burning business issue" and the chance for action on the stuff that 
> we feel needs to be taken?".
> 
> Often, I have found that in answering this question some pretty relevant 
> groups were not in focus, such as "the customer" which, in a school 
> setting, might be the students, in a parish the folks that attend the 
> worships, in a company that specialises on "customer tailored 
> nutritional products" the consumers of those products... or, in an os 
> for the future of an NGO the folks that provide the finances or the 
> government agencies that are needed for cooperation or the competitors 
> in the same or related fields.
> 
> Now, my and the efforts of others to increase "diversity" in "our" 
> events have been only partially successful. Asking ourselves the 
> "diversity" question certainly surface those that should be invited. For 
> an Open Space Learning Exchange or other events we invite to for 
> reflection and learning  etc. that might be:
> 
> --- our clients
> --- children
> --- scholars, scientists, researchers
> --- facilitators of all kinds
> --- caterers
> --- facility managers
> --- event managers in hotels etc. where os events take place
> --- journalists (newspapers, scientific journals, radio, TV, internet...)
> --- non-facilitators that are curious
> --- former participants of os events
> --- writers that have produced works around ost
> ---
> ---
> 
> If we had a planning meeting, this list would certainly be expanded.
> 
> In this spirit, we would help expand time and space for 
> selforganisation... any time, corona, war, hurricanes, climate change, 
> you name it... even in peace and other happy times.
> 
> Apart from expanding on this I presently am participating in efforts in 
> my immediate familiy, our neighborhood, in Berlin and so on, to slow 
> down the spread of Corona to find ways to live with it.
> 
> Personally, I am enjoying some of the side effects of the presently 
> challenging situation: practically no contrails over Berlin with clear 
> skies and many more stars than usual, the reduction of noise (hardly any 
> cars), the enormous unfolding of actions in civil society... in the face 
> of closed schools, limiting contact restrictions, a dearth of protective 
> masks, shortage of toilet paper... what have you.
> 
> Greetings from Berlin and looking forward to analog hugs maybe 
> definitely at the WOSonOS this fall
> mmp
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am 31.03.2020 um 09:46 schrieb Rolf Schneidereit via OSList:
> > Dear Mates,
> > 
> > would like to get your feedback. I'm wondering: is now the time to intensify the exchange between tribes like Art of Hosting, Open Space, Liberating Structures, World Caf?; Theory U and many others?
> > 
> > With all individual differences - we share extraordinary times. We're facing an urgent crisis which will cost many lives, we're shure to expect the next economical crisis and we're amid the fast expanding crisis of the ecosystem and the climate.
> > 
> > Could it be helpful in this situation if the different streams for liberation, participation, collective intelligence, deep dialogue and so on comes together to share their insights, their initiatives, their gifts? How can we support each other to support the common good and the necessary transition?
> > 
> > What do you think and sense? I'm going to sent this question to the AoH- and the OS-List. If this call resonates with you feel free to sent it to other communities you belong to.
> > 
> > And how?
> > The idea appears after a virtual Open Space. One insight: We can do a really large gathering online. After that I've offered Lucas Cioffi from Qiqochat a sponsorship for an online event with up to 300 participants but he declined: He will offer the use of Qiqochat for such an event for free! What we can do there (for example):
> > - Check-in (perhaps as Impromptu Networking)
> > - conversation caf? in small circles (recommendation of Christine Koehler)
> > - Open Space
> > - Harvesting
> > - Check-out
> > 
> > If there is a encouraging feedback the next step will be a first preparation (zoom) call. Can you imagine to support and host such a call?
> > 
> > Looking forward to your response
> > (or not - following the Law of two feets)
> > 
> > Rolf
> > _______________________________________________
> > OSList mailing list
> > To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> > To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> > Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Michael M Pannwitz
> Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
> ++49 - 30-772 8000
> mmpannwitz at gmail.com
> 
> 
> Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 492 resident Open 
> Space Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 142 countries worldwide
> www.openspaceworldmap.org
> 
> At my publisher you find books and task cards on open space and other 
> treasures, most in German, some in English, some as ebooks, some 
> multilingual
> https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Kommunikation
> 
> _______________________________________________
> OSList mailing list
> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
> _______________________________________________
> OSList mailing list
> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20200403/6aa17d3e/attachment-0001.html>

------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 23:01:56 +0200
From: Thomas Herrmann <thomas at openspaceconsulting.com>
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
    <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
Subject: Re: [OSList] open space online
Message-ID:
    <C7D5995B-E650-4C45-A967-C6FDF8ACDDE1 at openspaceconsulting.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

QiqoChat is a useful software for this. 
Thomas

Skickat fr?n min iPhone

> 3 apr. 2020 kl. 22:53 skrev Alexander Schilling via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
> 
> ?Hi all, 
> 
> peparing my next open spaces , i would like to ask you: which tool - beside the combination of video-chat and mural/googledocs-like tools - would you recommend to do an open space online. Is there an all in one solution, readily prepared for online open spaces? I need it for less and for more, than 50 people.
> 
> Alexander Schilling
>  
> Fon +49 40 32 84 51 16
> Mob. +49 177 7531168
> 
> www.raumfuer.de
> www.twitter.com
> 
>> Am 03.04.2020 um 22:29 schrieb Harrison Owen via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
>> 
>> Exchange... yes. And on that note I might suggest that "getting the whole system in the room" (Marv Weisbord's phrase) is certainly related to the idea of diversity -- but not quite the same thing a my meaning when I described "diversity" as one of the critical five preconditions for self organization. My understanding of diversity may be achieved when "all who care" are there (for the OS). "Caring" is the operative word. Putting it simply: "If you care, you got to be there." "Those who care might include: The whole system, less than the whole system, or more. I've had the experience (as I am sure you have as well, Michael) when total onlookers, just casual observers, suddenly discover that they have an interest, some input -- and actually care. Sometimes they just stand in the doorways, but on occasion they just moved right in and took over -- to the benefit of everybody. Why or how -- who knows??? But they cared! I've seen this happen often enough that I added another little rem
 inder to myself and whomsoever..."Honor the Stranger." They always show up and their gifts can be extravagant. Strangers in out midst is by no means a bad thing.
>> 
>> Harrison
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> To: Rolf Schneidereit via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> Cc: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Fri, Apr 3, 2020 3:24 am
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and change
>> 
>> Dear Rolf,
>> 
>> exchange is what OSLIST thrives on.
>> 
>> For me, it is (was) THE  worldwide place for reflecting and learning and 
>> unfolding about my working and living as an os facilitator... in 
>> addition to my regular interaction in local, regional and worldwide 
>> OSonOS, including the Stammtische in Berlin (inactive for the duration 
>> of physical contact restrictions with the hope that the WOSonOS in 
>> Berlin in October of this year will be possible and, of course, 
>> Stammtische again...).
>> 
>> Looking at the 5 or so prerequisites for the unfolding of 
>> selforganisation (the center of my craft), I have always looked 
>> specifically at "diversity" (or as some say "getting the whole system in 
>> the room") and advocated that our os-exchanges would profit from high 
>> diversity as far as participants are concerned. I always felt that 
>> "diversity" was one of the prerequisites that we have some influence in. 
>> For instance, who all we would invite to our events (including OSLIST).
>> 
>> Looking at that aspect, diversity can be expanded in the same way as we 
>> suggest to our clients. Usually, we ask some simple questions in the 
>> planning stage of an event, such as "who all needs to be at the event to 
>> increase the chance for fullfilling both our aspirations we have around 
>> the "burning business issue" and the chance for action on the stuff that 
>> we feel needs to be taken?".
>> 
>> Often, I have found that in answering this question some pretty relevant 
>> groups were not in focus, such as "the customer" which, in a school 
>> setting, might be the students, in a parish the folks that attend the 
>> worships, in a company that specialises on "customer tailored 
>> nutritional products" the consumers of those products... or, in an os 
>> for the future of an NGO the folks that provide the finances or the 
>> government agencies that are needed for cooperation or the competitors 
>> in the same or related fields.
>> 
>> Now, my and the efforts of others to increase "diversity" in "our" 
>> events have been only partially successful. Asking ourselves the
>> "diversity" question certainly surface those that should be invited. For 
>> an Open Space Learning Exchange or other events we invite to for 
>> reflection and learning  etc. that might be:
>> 
>> --- our clients
>> --- children
>> --- scholars, scientists, researchers
>> --- facilitators of all kinds
>> --- caterers
>> --- facility managers
>> --- event managers in hotels etc. where os events take place
>> --- journalists (newspapers, scientific journals, radio, TV, internet...)
>> --- non-facilitators that are curious
>> --- former participants of os events
>> --- writers that have produced works around ost
>> ---
>> ---
>> 
>> If we had a planning meeting, this list would certainly be expanded.
>> 
>> In this spirit, we would help expand time and space for 
>> selforganisation... any time, corona, war, hurricanes, climate change, 
>> you name it... even in peace and other happy times.
>> 
>> Apart from expanding on this I presently am participating in efforts in 
>> my immediate familiy, our neighborhood, in Berlin and so on, to slow 
>> down the spread of Corona to find ways to live with it.
>> 
>> Personally, I am enjoying some of the side effects of the presently 
>> challenging situation: practically no contrails over Berlin with clear 
>> skies and many more stars than usual, the reduction of noise (hardly any 
>> cars), the enormous unfolding of actions in civil society... in the face 
>> of closed schools, limiting contact restrictions, a dearth of protective 
>> masks, shortage of toilet paper... what have you.
>> 
>> Greetings from Berlin and looking forward to analog hugs maybe 
>> definitely at the WOSonOS this fall
>> mmp
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Am 31.03.2020 um 09:46 schrieb Rolf Schneidereit via OSList:
>> > Dear Mates,
>> > 
>> > would like to get your feedback. I'm wondering: is now the time to intensify the exchange between tribes like Art of Hosting, Open Space, Liberating Structures, World Caf?; Theory U and many others?
>> > 
>> > With all individual differences - we share extraordinary times. We're facing an urgent crisis which will cost many lives, we're shure to expect the next economical crisis and we're amid the fast expanding crisis of the ecosystem and the climate.
>> > 
>> > Could it be helpful in this situation if the different streams for liberation, participation, collective intelligence, deep dialogue and so on comes together to share their insights, their initiatives, their gifts? How can we support each other to support the common good and the necessary transition?
>> > 
>> > What do you think and sense? I'm going to sent this question to the AoH- and the OS-List. If this call resonates with you feel free to sent it to other communities you belong to.
>> > 
>> > And how?
>> > The idea appears after a virtual Open Space. One insight: We can do a really large gathering online. After that I've offered Lucas Cioffi from Qiqochat a sponsorship for an online event with up to 300 participants but he declined: He will offer the use of Qiqochat for such an event for free! What we can do there (for example):
>> > - Check-in (perhaps as Impromptu Networking)
>> > - conversation caf? in small circles (recommendation of Christine Koehler)
>> > - Open Space
>> > - Harvesting
>> > - Check-out
>> > 
>> > If there is a encouraging feedback the next step will be a first preparation (zoom) call. Can you imagine to support and host such a call?
>> > 
>> > Looking forward to your response
>> > (or not - following the Law of two feets)
>> > 
>> > Rolf
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > OSList mailing list
>> > To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
>> > To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
>> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
>> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>> > Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
>> > 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Michael M Pannwitz
>> Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
>> ++49 - 30-772 8000
>> mmpannwitz at gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 492 resident Open 
>> Space Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 142 countries worldwide
>> www.openspaceworldmap.org
>> 
>> At my publisher you find books and task cards on open space and other 
>> treasures, most in German, some in English, some as ebooks, some 
>> multilingual
>> https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Kommunikation
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> OSList mailing list
>> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
>> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>> Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
>> _______________________________________________
>> OSList mailing list
>> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
>> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>> Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
> _______________________________________________
> OSList mailing list
> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20200403/66e4b2af/attachment-0001.html>

------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 00:08:04 +0300
From: Bhavesh Patel <bhavmail at gmail.com>
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
    <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
Subject: Re: [OSList] open space online
Message-ID:
    <CAAho4410py4MbYsAj+VE-SkNc9OvSTXd5w2h7Epx7HdBMHLHOA at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Check this out:
https://qiqochat.wordpress.com/2017/03/01/create-an-online-unconference/

On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 00:02, Thomas Herrmann via OSList <
oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> QiqoChat is a useful software for this.
> Thomas
>
> Skickat fr?n min iPhone
>
> 3 apr. 2020 kl. 22:53 skrev Alexander Schilling via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
>
> ?Hi all,
>
> peparing my next open spaces , i would like to ask you: which tool -
> beside the combination of video-chat and mural/googledocs-like tools -
> would you recommend to do an open space online. Is there an all in one
> solution, readily prepared for online open spaces? I need it for less and
> for more, than 50 people.
>
> Alexander Schilling
>
>
>
> Fon +49 40 32 84 51 16 <+49%2040%2032%2084%2051%2016>
>
> Mob. +49 177 7531168 <+49%20177%207531168>
>
>
> *www.raumfuer.de <http://www.raumfuer.de>*
>
> *www.twitter.com <http://www.twitter.com/raumfuer>*
>
>
> Am 03.04.2020 um 22:29 schrieb Harrison Owen via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
>
> Exchange... yes. And on that note I might suggest that "getting the whole
> system in the room" (Marv Weisbord's phrase) is certainly related to the
> idea of diversity -- but not quite the same thing a my meaning when I
> described "diversity" as one of the critical five preconditions for self
> organization. My understanding of diversity may be achieved when "all who
> care" are there (for the OS). "Caring" is the operative word. Putting it
> simply: "If you care, you got to be there." "Those who care might include:
> The whole system, less than the whole system, or more. I've had the
> experience (as I am sure you have as well, Michael) when total onlookers,
> just casual observers, suddenly discover that they have an interest, some
> input -- and actually care. Sometimes they just stand in the doorways, but
> on occasion they just moved right in and took over -- to the benefit of
> everybody. Why or how -- who knows??? But they cared! I've seen this happen
> often enough that I added another little reminder to myself and
> whomsoever..."Honor the Stranger." They always show up and their gifts can
> be extravagant. Strangers in out midst is by no means a bad thing.
>
> Harrison
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Rolf Schneidereit via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Cc: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
> Sent: Fri, Apr 3, 2020 3:24 am
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and
> change
>
> Dear Rolf,
>
> exchange is what OSLIST thrives on.
>
> For me, it is (was) THE  worldwide place for reflecting and learning and
> unfolding about my working and living as an os facilitator... in
> addition to my regular interaction in local, regional and worldwide
> OSonOS, including the Stammtische in Berlin (inactive for the duration
> of physical contact restrictions with the hope that the WOSonOS in
> Berlin in October of this year will be possible and, of course,
> Stammtische again...).
>
> Looking at the 5 or so prerequisites for the unfolding of
> selforganisation (the center of my craft), I have always looked
> specifically at "diversity" (or as some say "getting the whole system in
> the room") and advocated that our os-exchanges would profit from high
> diversity as far as participants are concerned. I always felt that
> "diversity" was one of the prerequisites that we have some influence in.
> For instance, who all we would invite to our events (including OSLIST).
>
> Looking at that aspect, diversity can be expanded in the same way as we
> suggest to our clients. Usually, we ask some simple questions in the
> planning stage of an event, such as "who all needs to be at the event to
> increase the chance for fullfilling both our aspirations we have around
> the "burning business issue" and the chance for action on the stuff that
> we feel needs to be taken?".
>
> Often, I have found that in answering this question some pretty relevant
> groups were not in focus, such as "the customer" which, in a school
> setting, might be the students, in a parish the folks that attend the
> worships, in a company that specialises on "customer tailored
> nutritional products" the consumers of those products... or, in an os
> for the future of an NGO the folks that provide the finances or the
> government agencies that are needed for cooperation or the competitors
> in the same or related fields.
>
> Now, my and the efforts of others to increase "diversity" in "our"
> events have been only partially successful. Asking ourselves the
> "diversity" question certainly surface those that should be invited. For
> an Open Space Learning Exchange or other events we invite to for
> reflection and learning  etc. that might be:
>
> --- our clients
> --- children
> --- scholars, scientists, researchers
> --- facilitators of all kinds
> --- caterers
> --- facility managers
> --- event managers in hotels etc. where os events take place
> --- journalists (newspapers, scientific journals, radio, TV, internet...)
> --- non-facilitators that are curious
> --- former participants of os events
> --- writers that have produced works around ost
> ---
> ---
>
> If we had a planning meeting, this list would certainly be expanded.
>
> In this spirit, we would help expand time and space for
> selforganisation... any time, corona, war, hurricanes, climate change,
> you name it... even in peace and other happy times.
>
> Apart from expanding on this I presently am participating in efforts in
> my immediate familiy, our neighborhood, in Berlin and so on, to slow
> down the spread of Corona to find ways to live with it.
>
> Personally, I am enjoying some of the side effects of the presently
> challenging situation: practically no contrails over Berlin with clear
> skies and many more stars than usual, the reduction of noise (hardly any
> cars), the enormous unfolding of actions in civil society... in the face
> of closed schools, limiting contact restrictions, a dearth of protective
> masks, shortage of toilet paper... what have you.
>
> Greetings from Berlin and looking forward to analog hugs maybe
> definitely at the WOSonOS this fall
> mmp
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 31.03.2020 um 09:46 schrieb Rolf Schneidereit via OSList:
> > Dear Mates,
> >
> > would like to get your feedback. I'm wondering: is now the time to
> intensify the exchange between tribes like Art of Hosting, Open Space,
> Liberating Structures, World Caf?; Theory U and many others?
> >
> > With all individual differences - we share extraordinary times. We're
> facing an urgent crisis which will cost many lives, we're shure to expect
> the next economical crisis and we're amid the fast expanding crisis of the
> ecosystem and the climate.
> >
> > Could it be helpful in this situation if the different streams for
> liberation, participation, collective intelligence, deep dialogue and so on
> comes together to share their insights, their initiatives, their gifts? How
> can we support each other to support the common good and the necessary
> transition?
> >
> > What do you think and sense? I'm going to sent this question to the AoH-
> and the OS-List. If this call resonates with you feel free to sent it to
> other communities you belong to.
> >
> > And how?
> > The idea appears after a virtual Open Space. One insight: We can do a
> really large gathering online. After that I've offered Lucas Cioffi from
> Qiqochat a sponsorship for an online event with up to 300 participants but
> he declined: He will offer the use of Qiqochat for such an event for free!
> What we can do there (for example):
> > - Check-in (perhaps as Impromptu Networking)
> > - conversation caf? in small circles (recommendation of Christine
> Koehler)
> > - Open Space
> > - Harvesting
> > - Check-out
> >
> > If there is a encouraging feedback the next step will be a first
> preparation (zoom) call. Can you imagine to support and host such a call?
> >
> > Looking forward to your response
> > (or not - following the Law of two feets)
> >
> > Rolf
> > _______________________________________________
> > OSList mailing list
> > To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> > To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> > Past archives can be viewed here:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
> >
>
> --
> Michael M Pannwitz
> Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
> ++49 - 30-772 8000
> mmpannwitz at gmail.com
>
>
> Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 492 resident Open
> Space Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 142 countries worldwide
> www.openspaceworldmap.org
>
> At my publisher you find books and task cards on open space and other
> treasures, most in German, some in English, some as ebooks, some
> multilingual
> https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Kommunikation
>
> _______________________________________________
> OSList mailing list
> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> Past archives can be viewed here:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> OSList mailing list
> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> Past archives can be viewed here:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> OSList mailing list
> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> Past archives can be viewed here:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> OSList mailing list
> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> Past archives can be viewed here:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20200404/dfc4a196/attachment-0001.html>

------------------------------

Message: 5
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 15:30:28 -0700
From: anne stadler <anne.m.stad at gmail.com>
To: oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
Subject: Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 108, Issue 2
Message-ID:
    <CACkJsiNEpor466kZSb_oL1ymbYadi8YOFyvgH7D74xmKM76ZPQ at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Meeting of Tribes

At Spirited Work, a 7 year experience of OST as a learning community of
practice, that met every season for 3&1/2 days and were linked
in-line...our circle was permeable, open to everyone. And we had amazing
appearances of ?strangers? who contributed deeply to the well being of the
whole!

AND we had a circle of Stewards that re-upped each year: each of whom had a
personal inner work practice, who took responsibility for Spirited Work
infrastructure and learning about the nature of an OST collective. As Peggy
Holman said: ?Stewards got the SW intensive!?

Hope this helps. Love & optimal health to all of you!!  Anne



On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 2:55 PM <oslist-request at lists.openspacetech.org>
wrote:

> Send OSList mailing list submissions to
>        oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>        oslist-request at lists.openspacetech.org
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
>        oslist-owner at lists.openspacetech.org
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of OSList digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>    1. Re: Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and change
>      (Harrison Owen)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 20:29:09 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
> To: "oslist at lists.openspacetech.org" <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and
>        change
> Message-ID: <1874304145.98776.1585945749304 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Exchange... yes. And on that note I might suggest that "getting the whole
> system in the room" (Marv Weisbord's phrase) is certainly related to the
> idea of diversity -- but not quite the same thing a my meaning when I
> described "diversity" as one of the critical five preconditions for self
> organization. My understanding of diversity may be achieved when "all who
> care" are there (for the OS). "Caring" is the operative word. Putting it
> simply: "If you care, you got to be there." "Those who care might include:
> The whole system, less than the whole system, or more. I've had the
> experience (as I am sure you have as well, Michael) when total onlookers,
> just casual observers, suddenly discover that they have an interest, some
> input -- and actually care. Sometimes they just stand in the doorways, but
> on occasion they just moved right in and took over -- to the benefit of
> everybody. Why or how -- who knows??? But they cared! I've seen this happen
> often enough that I added another little remind
>  er to myself and whomsoever..."Honor the Stranger." They always show up
> and their gifts can be extravagant. Strangers in out midst is by no means a
> bad thing.
> Harrison
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Rolf Schneidereit via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Cc: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
> Sent: Fri, Apr 3, 2020 3:24 am
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and
> change
>
> Dear Rolf,
>
> exchange is what OSLIST thrives on.
>
> For me, it is (was) THE? worldwide place for reflecting and learning and
> unfolding about my working and living as an os facilitator... in
> addition to my regular interaction in local, regional and worldwide
> OSonOS, including the Stammtische in Berlin (inactive for the duration
> of physical contact restrictions with the hope that the WOSonOS in
> Berlin in October of this year will be possible and, of course,
> Stammtische again...).
>
> Looking at the 5 or so prerequisites for the unfolding of
> selforganisation (the center of my craft), I have always looked
> specifically at "diversity" (or as some say "getting the whole system in
> the room") and advocated that our os-exchanges would profit from high
> diversity as far as participants are concerned. I always felt that
> "diversity" was one of the prerequisites that we have some influence in.
> For instance, who all we would invite to our events (including OSLIST).
>
> Looking at that aspect, diversity can be expanded in the same way as we
> suggest to our clients. Usually, we ask some simple questions in the
> planning stage of an event, such as "who all needs to be at the event to
> increase the chance for fullfilling both our aspirations we have around
> the "burning business issue" and the chance for action on the stuff that
> we feel needs to be taken?".
>
> Often, I have found that in answering this question some pretty relevant
> groups were not in focus, such as "the customer" which, in a school
> setting, might be the students, in a parish the folks that attend the
> worships, in a company that specialises on "customer tailored
> nutritional products" the consumers of those products... or, in an os
> for the future of an NGO the folks that provide the finances or the
> government agencies that are needed for cooperation or the competitors
> in the same or related fields.
>
> Now, my and the efforts of others to increase "diversity" in "our"
> events have been only partially successful. Asking ourselves the
> "diversity" question certainly surface those that should be invited. For
> an Open Space Learning Exchange or other events we invite to for
> reflection and learning? etc. that might be:
>
> --- our clients
> --- children
> --- scholars, scientists, researchers
> --- facilitators of all kinds
> --- caterers
> --- facility managers
> --- event managers in hotels etc. where os events take place
> --- journalists (newspapers, scientific journals, radio, TV, internet...)
> --- non-facilitators that are curious
> --- former participants of os events
> --- writers that have produced works around ost
> ---
> ---
>
> If we had a planning meeting, this list would certainly be expanded.
>
> In this spirit, we would help expand time and space for
> selforganisation... any time, corona, war, hurricanes, climate change,
> you name it... even in peace and other happy times.
>
> Apart from expanding on this I presently am participating in efforts in
> my immediate familiy, our neighborhood, in Berlin and so on, to slow
> down the spread of Corona to find ways to live with it.
>
> Personally, I am enjoying some of the side effects of the presently
> challenging situation: practically no contrails over Berlin with clear
> skies and many more stars than usual, the reduction of noise (hardly any
> cars), the enormous unfolding of actions in civil society... in the face
> of closed schools, limiting contact restrictions, a dearth of protective
> masks, shortage of toilet paper... what have you.
>
> Greetings from Berlin and looking forward to analog hugs maybe
> definitely at the WOSonOS this fall
> mmp
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 31.03.2020 um 09:46 schrieb Rolf Schneidereit via OSList:
> > Dear Mates,
> >
> > would like to get your feedback. I'm wondering: is now the time to
> intensify the exchange between tribes like Art of Hosting, Open Space,
> Liberating Structures, World Caf?; Theory U and many others?
> >
> > With all individual differences - we share extraordinary times. We're
> facing an urgent crisis which will cost many lives, we're shure to expect
> the next economical crisis and we're amid the fast expanding crisis of the
> ecosystem and the climate.
> >
> > Could it be helpful in this situation if the different streams for
> liberation, participation, collective intelligence, deep dialogue and so on
> comes together to share their insights, their initiatives, their gifts? How
> can we support each other to support the common good and the necessary
> transition?
> >
> > What do you think and sense? I'm going to sent this question to the AoH-
> and the OS-List. If this call resonates with you feel free to sent it to
> other communities you belong to.
> >
> > And how?
> > The idea appears after a virtual Open Space. One insight: We can do a
> really large gathering online. After that I've offered Lucas Cioffi from
> Qiqochat a sponsorship for an online event with up to 300 participants but
> he declined: He will offer the use of Qiqochat for such an event for free!
> What we can do there (for example):
> > - Check-in (perhaps as Impromptu Networking)
> > - conversation caf? in small circles (recommendation of Christine
> Koehler)
> > - Open Space
> > - Harvesting
> > - Check-out
> >
> > If there is a encouraging feedback the next step will be a first
> preparation (zoom) call. Can you imagine to support and host such a call?
> >
> > Looking forward to your response
> > (or not - following the Law of two feets)
> >
> > Rolf
> > _______________________________________________
> > OSList mailing list
> > To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> > To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> > Past archives can be viewed here:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
> >
>
> --
> Michael M Pannwitz
> Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
> ++49 - 30-772 8000
> mmpannwitz at gmail.com
>
>
> Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 492 resident Open
> Space Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 142 countries worldwide
> www.openspaceworldmap.org
>
> At my publisher you find books and task cards on open space and other
> treasures, most in German, some in English, some as ebooks, some
> multilingual
> https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Kommunikation
> _______________________________________________
> OSList mailing list
> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> Past archives can be viewed here:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
> -------------- next part --------------
> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> URL: <
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20200403/75047845/attachment-0001.html
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: Digest Footer
>
> _______________________________________________
> OSList mailing list
> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> Past archives can be viewed here:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of OSList Digest, Vol 108, Issue 2
> **************************************
>
-- 
Anne M. Stadler
18464--47th Pl.NE
Lake Forest Park, WA.
98155, USA
206-459-0227

Skype: anne.m.stadler


Your Self:
Occupy
100%!

www.StoryBridge.space
www. <http://www.CallofCompassion.org>sourcingtheway.com
www.CharterforCompassion.org

A world that works for all, is a world of love made visible.


<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02-J-lXnt-g>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20200403/432d64d3/attachment-0001.html>

------------------------------

Message: 6
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 16:05:10 -0700
From: Chris Corrigan <chris.corrigan at gmail.com>
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
    <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
Subject: Re: [OSList] Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and
    change
Message-ID: <EC42516A-7B0C-4A53-B900-CD84B9E5A8E7 at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii

I heard a lovely a succinct line from Valdis Krebs yesterday:

Similarities are where we connect, difference is where we innovate.  The art of invitation is creating a group with similarities and differences operating at a nice creative tension.  Not everyone in a system needs to be connected to everyone else. But if everyone is a stranger, there is not enough coherence to self-organize.  Self-organization needs you to strike a healthy balance between the two.  

Chris




------------------------------

Message: 7
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 00:26:38 +0000 (UTC)
From: "C. Fuller" <chrlsful at aol.com>
To: oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
Subject: [OSList] Our gifts for crisis and change::OSList Digest, Vol
    108, Issue 2
Message-ID: <543941733.194560.1585959998729 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Exchange = Community. That 'stranger' sees thru OST that it is not just platitudes (may B 4 the 1st time) & this energizes them. "Ah...er...what...? Something different here." and they get involved (opposite of 'the law of 2 feet'). Now the grp sees what diversity actually is...feedback mechanism activated, no?- -Chad


-----Original Message-----
From: oslist-request <oslist-request at lists.openspacetech.org>
To: oslist <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
Sent: Fri, Apr 3, 2020 4:37 pm
Subject: OSList Digest, Vol 108, Issue 2

Send OSList mailing list submissions to
??? oslist at lists.openspacetech.org

To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
??? http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
??? oslist-request at lists.openspacetech.org

You can reach the person managing the list at
??? oslist-owner at lists.openspacetech.org

When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than "Re: Contents of OSList digest..."


Today's Topics:

? 1. Re: Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and change
? ? ? (Harrison Owen)


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message: 1
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 20:29:09 +0000 (UTC)
From: Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
To: "oslist at lists.openspacetech.org" <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
Subject: Re: [OSList] Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and
??? change
Message-ID: <1874304145.98776.1585945749304 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Exchange... yes. And on that note I might suggest that "getting the whole system in the room" (Marv Weisbord's phrase) is certainly related to the idea of diversity -- but not quite the same thing a my meaning when I described "diversity" as one of the critical five preconditions for self organization. My understanding of diversity may be achieved when "all who care" are there (for the OS). "Caring" is the operative word. Putting it simply: "If you care, you got to be there." "Those who care might include: The whole system, less than the whole system, or more. I've had the experience (as I am sure you have as well, Michael) when total onlookers, just casual observers, suddenly discover that they have an interest, some input -- and actually care. Sometimes they just stand in the doorways, but on occasion they just moved right in and took over -- to the benefit of everybody. Why or how -- who knows??? But they cared! I've seen this happen often enough that I added another little remind
 er to myself and whomsoever..."Honor the Stranger." They always show up and their gifts can be extravagant. Strangers in out midst is by no means a bad thing.
Harrison


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
To: Rolf Schneidereit via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
Cc: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
Sent: Fri, Apr 3, 2020 3:24 am
Subject: Re: [OSList] Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and change

Dear Rolf,

exchange is what OSLIST thrives on.

For me, it is (was) THE? worldwide place for reflecting and learning and 
unfolding about my working and living as an os facilitator... in 
addition to my regular interaction in local, regional and worldwide 
OSonOS, including the Stammtische in Berlin (inactive for the duration 
of physical contact restrictions with the hope that the WOSonOS in 
Berlin in October of this year will be possible and, of course, 
Stammtische again...).

Looking at the 5 or so prerequisites for the unfolding of 
selforganisation (the center of my craft), I have always looked 
specifically at "diversity" (or as some say "getting the whole system in 
the room") and advocated that our os-exchanges would profit from high 
diversity as far as participants are concerned. I always felt that 
"diversity" was one of the prerequisites that we have some influence in. 
For instance, who all we would invite to our events (including OSLIST).

Looking at that aspect, diversity can be expanded in the same way as we 
suggest to our clients. Usually, we ask some simple questions in the 
planning stage of an event, such as "who all needs to be at the event to 
increase the chance for fullfilling both our aspirations we have around 
the "burning business issue" and the chance for action on the stuff that 
we feel needs to be taken?".

Often, I have found that in answering this question some pretty relevant 
groups were not in focus, such as "the customer" which, in a school 
setting, might be the students, in a parish the folks that attend the 
worships, in a company that specialises on "customer tailored 
nutritional products" the consumers of those products... or, in an os 
for the future of an NGO the folks that provide the finances or the 
government agencies that are needed for cooperation or the competitors 
in the same or related fields.

Now, my and the efforts of others to increase "diversity" in "our" 
events have been only partially successful. Asking ourselves the 
"diversity" question certainly surface those that should be invited. For 
an Open Space Learning Exchange or other events we invite to for 
reflection and learning? etc. that might be:

--- our clients
--- children
--- scholars, scientists, researchers
--- facilitators of all kinds
--- caterers
--- facility managers
--- event managers in hotels etc. where os events take place
--- journalists (newspapers, scientific journals, radio, TV, internet...)
--- non-facilitators that are curious
--- former participants of os events
--- writers that have produced works around ost
---
---

If we had a planning meeting, this list would certainly be expanded.

In this spirit, we would help expand time and space for 
selforganisation... any time, corona, war, hurricanes, climate change, 
you name it... even in peace and other happy times.

Apart from expanding on this I presently am participating in efforts in 
my immediate familiy, our neighborhood, in Berlin and so on, to slow 
down the spread of Corona to find ways to live with it.

Personally, I am enjoying some of the side effects of the presently 
challenging situation: practically no contrails over Berlin with clear 
skies and many more stars than usual, the reduction of noise (hardly any 
cars), the enormous unfolding of actions in civil society... in the face 
of closed schools, limiting contact restrictions, a dearth of protective 
masks, shortage of toilet paper... what have you.

Greetings from Berlin and looking forward to analog hugs maybe 
definitely at the WOSonOS this fall
mmp





Am 31.03.2020 um 09:46 schrieb Rolf Schneidereit via OSList:
> Dear Mates,
> 
> would like to get your feedback. I'm wondering: is now the time to intensify the exchange between tribes like Art of Hosting, Open Space, Liberating Structures, World Caf?; Theory U and many others?
> 
> With all individual differences - we share extraordinary times. We're facing an urgent crisis which will cost many lives, we're shure to expect the next economical crisis and we're amid the fast expanding crisis of the ecosystem and the climate.
> 
> Could it be helpful in this situation if the different streams for liberation, participation, collective intelligence, deep dialogue and so on comes together to share their insights, their initiatives, their gifts? How can we support each other to support the common good and the necessary transition?
> 
> What do you think and sense? I'm going to sent this question to the AoH- and the OS-List. If this call resonates with you feel free to sent it to other communities you belong to.
> 
> And how?
> The idea appears after a virtual Open Space. One insight: We can do a really large gathering online. After that I've offered Lucas Cioffi from Qiqochat a sponsorship for an online event with up to 300 participants but he declined: He will offer the use of Qiqochat for such an event for free! What we can do there (for example):
> - Check-in (perhaps as Impromptu Networking)
> - conversation caf? in small circles (recommendation of Christine Koehler)
> - Open Space
> - Harvesting
> - Check-out
> 
> If there is a encouraging feedback the next step will be a first preparation (zoom) call. Can you imagine to support and host such a call?
> 
> Looking forward to your response
> (or not - following the Law of two feets)
> 
> Rolf
> _______________________________________________
> OSList mailing list
> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
> 

-- 
Michael M Pannwitz
Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
++49 - 30-772 8000
mmpannwitz at gmail.com


Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 492 resident Open 
Space Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 142 countries worldwide
www.openspaceworldmap.org

At my publisher you find books and task cards on open space and other 
treasures, most in German, some in English, some as ebooks, some 
multilingual
https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Kommunikation
_______________________________________________
OSList mailing list
To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20200403/75047845/attachment-0001.html>

------------------------------

Subject: Digest Footer

_______________________________________________
OSList mailing list
To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org

------------------------------

End of OSList Digest, Vol 108, Issue 2
**************************************
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20200404/75fc8ebb/attachment-0001.html>

------------------------------

Message: 8
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 12:48:29 +0200
From: "Dr. Christian Kemper" <kemper.christian at gmail.com>
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
    <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
Subject: Re: [OSList] Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and
    change
Message-ID: <bdf681a6-b38a-6f48-903c-0844528aa022 at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Dear Rolf,

a wonderful idea. Thank you.

I am in. As a host, participant, supporter.

Christian


Dr. Christian Kemper | inbetweener | Prinz-Albert-Stra?e 73 | D-53113 Bonn |
M. +49 . 174 . 921 66 11 | T. +49 . 228 . 24 36 70 00 | ck at inbetweener.eu | www.inbetweener.eu


Am 03.04.20 um 22:29 schrieb Harrison Owen via OSList:
> Exchange... yes. And on that note I might suggest that "getting the 
> whole system in the room" (Marv Weisbord's phrase) is certainly 
> related to the idea of diversity -- but not quite the same thing a my 
> meaning when I described "diversity" as one of the critical five 
> preconditions for self organization. My understanding of diversity may 
> be achieved when "all who care" are there (for the OS). "Caring" is 
> the operative word. Putting it simply: "If you care, you got to be 
> there." "Those who care might include: The whole system, less than the 
> whole system, or more. I've had the experience (as I am sure you have 
> as well, Michael) when total onlookers, just casual observers, 
> suddenly discover that they have an interest, some input -- and 
> actually care. Sometimes they just stand in the doorways, but on 
> occasion they just moved right in and took over -- to the benefit of 
> everybody. Why or how -- who knows??? But they cared! I've seen this 
> happen often enough that I added another little reminder to myself and 
> whomsoever..."Honor the Stranger." They always show up and their gifts 
> can be extravagant. Strangers in out midst is by no means a bad thing.
>
> Harrison
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Rolf Schneidereit via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Cc: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
> Sent: Fri, Apr 3, 2020 3:24 am
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and 
> change
>
> Dear Rolf,
>
> exchange is what OSLIST thrives on.
>
> For me, it is (was) THE? worldwide place for reflecting and learning and
> unfolding about my working and living as an os facilitator... in
> addition to my regular interaction in local, regional and worldwide
> OSonOS, including the Stammtische in Berlin (inactive for the duration
> of physical contact restrictions with the hope that the WOSonOS in
> Berlin in October of this year will be possible and, of course,
> Stammtische again...).
>
> Looking at the 5 or so prerequisites for the unfolding of
> selforganisation (the center of my craft), I have always looked
> specifically at "diversity" (or as some say "getting the whole system in
> the room") and advocated that our os-exchanges would profit from high
> diversity as far as participants are concerned. I always felt that
> "diversity" was one of the prerequisites that we have some influence in.
> For instance, who all we would invite to our events (including OSLIST).
>
> Looking at that aspect, diversity can be expanded in the same way as we
> suggest to our clients. Usually, we ask some simple questions in the
> planning stage of an event, such as "who all needs to be at the event to
> increase the chance for fullfilling both our aspirations we have around
> the "burning business issue" and the chance for action on the stuff that
> we feel needs to be taken?".
>
> Often, I have found that in answering this question some pretty relevant
> groups were not in focus, such as "the customer" which, in a school
> setting, might be the students, in a parish the folks that attend the
> worships, in a company that specialises on "customer tailored
> nutritional products" the consumers of those products... or, in an os
> for the future of an NGO the folks that provide the finances or the
> government agencies that are needed for cooperation or the competitors
> in the same or related fields.
>
> Now, my and the efforts of others to increase "diversity" in "our"
> events have been only partially successful. Asking ourselves the
> "diversity" question certainly surface those that should be invited. For
> an Open Space Learning Exchange or other events we invite to for
> reflection and learning? etc. that might be:
>
> --- our clients
> --- children
> --- scholars, scientists, researchers
> --- facilitators of all kinds
> --- caterers
> --- facility managers
> --- event managers in hotels etc. where os events take place
> --- journalists (newspapers, scientific journals, radio, TV, internet...)
> --- non-facilitators that are curious
> --- former participants of os events
> --- writers that have produced works around ost
> ---
> ---
>
> If we had a planning meeting, this list would certainly be expanded.
>
> In this spirit, we would help expand time and space for
> selforganisation... any time, corona, war, hurricanes, climate change,
> you name it... even in peace and other happy times.
>
> Apart from expanding on this I presently am participating in efforts in
> my immediate familiy, our neighborhood, in Berlin and so on, to slow
> down the spread of Corona to find ways to live with it.
>
> Personally, I am enjoying some of the side effects of the presently
> challenging situation: practically no contrails over Berlin with clear
> skies and many more stars than usual, the reduction of noise (hardly any
> cars), the enormous unfolding of actions in civil society... in the face
> of closed schools, limiting contact restrictions, a dearth of protective
> masks, shortage of toilet paper... what have you.
>
> Greetings from Berlin and looking forward to analog hugs maybe
> definitely at the WOSonOS this fall
> mmp
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 31.03.2020 um 09:46 schrieb Rolf Schneidereit via OSList:
> > Dear Mates,
> >
> > would like to get your feedback. I'm wondering: is now the time to 
> intensify the exchange between tribes like Art of Hosting, Open Space, 
> Liberating Structures, World Caf?; Theory U and many others?
> >
> > With all individual differences - we share extraordinary times. 
> We're facing an urgent crisis which will cost many lives, we're shure 
> to expect the next economical crisis and we're amid the fast expanding 
> crisis of the ecosystem and the climate.
> >
> > Could it be helpful in this situation if the different streams for 
> liberation, participation, collective intelligence, deep dialogue and 
> so on comes together to share their insights, their initiatives, their 
> gifts? How can we support each other to support the common good and 
> the necessary transition?
> >
> > What do you think and sense? I'm going to sent this question to the 
> AoH- and the OS-List. If this call resonates with you feel free to 
> sent it to other communities you belong to.
> >
> > And how?
> > The idea appears after a virtual Open Space. One insight: We can do 
> a really large gathering online. After that I've offered Lucas Cioffi 
> from Qiqochat a sponsorship for an online event with up to 300 
> participants but he declined: He will offer the use of Qiqochat for 
> such an event for free! What we can do there (for example):
> > - Check-in (perhaps as Impromptu Networking)
> > - conversation caf? in small circles (recommendation of Christine 
> Koehler)
> > - Open Space
> > - Harvesting
> > - Check-out
> >
> > If there is a encouraging feedback the next step will be a first 
> preparation (zoom) call. Can you imagine to support and host such a call?
> >
> > Looking forward to your response
> > (or not - following the Law of two feets)
> >
> > Rolf
> > _______________________________________________
> > OSList mailing list
> > To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org 
> <mailto:OSList at lists.openspacetech.org>
> > To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org 
> <mailto:OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org>
> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> > Past archives can be viewed here: 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
> >
>
> -- 
> Michael M Pannwitz
> Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
> ++49 - 30-772 8000
> mmpannwitz at gmail.com <mailto:mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
>
>
> Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 492 resident Open
> Space Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 142 countries 
> worldwide
> www.openspaceworldmap.org
>
> At my publisher you find books and task cards on open space and other
> treasures, most in German, some in English, some as ebooks, some
> multilingual
> https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Kommunikation
>
> _______________________________________________
> OSList mailing list
> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org 
> <mailto:OSList at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org 
> <mailto:OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> Past archives can be viewed here: 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> OSList mailing list
> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
-- 
Dr. Christian Kemper | inbetweener | Prinz-Albert-Stra?e 73 | D-53113 
Bonn | M. +49 . 174 . 921 66 11 | T. +49 . 228 . 24 36 70 00 | 
ck at inbetweener.eu | www.inbetweener.eu


------------------------------

Message: 9
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 12:32:43 +0100
From: Phelim McDermott <phelim at mac.com>
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
    <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
Subject: Re: [OSList] Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and
    change
Message-ID: <B5A5D736-93F6-4F2B-9700-EC05B6205889 at mac.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Nice Chris 

Best regards,

Phelim McDermott
-----------------------------
 I generally pick up emails only at the beginning and end of the working day. I am currently aiming to respond the following day. If it is urgent please call me on 07956 187298. 
___________________/////////////

Sent from my iPhone

> On 4 Apr 2020, at 00:05, Chris Corrigan via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> 
> ?I heard a lovely a succinct line from Valdis Krebs yesterday:
> 
> Similarities are where we connect, difference is where we innovate.  The art of invitation is creating a group with similarities and differences operating at a nice creative tension.  Not everyone in a system needs to be connected to everyone else. But if everyone is a stranger, there is not enough coherence to self-organize.  Self-organization needs you to strike a healthy balance between the two.  
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> OSList mailing list
> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org


------------------------------

Message: 10
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 14:18:09 +0200
From: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
To: Harrison Owen via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
Subject: Re: [OSList] Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and
    change
Message-ID: <1a9a096f-bc6d-b436-a057-2253d8a0832b at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Dear Harrison,

yes, "whole system in the room" differs from "all who care".

In FutureSearch a great deal of effort is undertaken to identify parts 
of the system... in a community/neighborhood this may add up to 100 or 
more "parts". Once all have been named they are grouped under 8 
headings. For instance, a day care would be grouped with related parts 
and move into the group "Children". For each of these 8 groups 8 people 
are searched for that are willing, able and influential. They gather for 
3 days and wind up with actions... It might take up to 6 months and more 
of planning with many meetings to get this "system".

My motivation for mentioning the planning for an ost-event with the 5 or 
so prerequisites in mind and
picking diversity as one of the prerequisite roots in the question of 
Rolf Schneidereit on "exchange between tribes like...".

I wonder if the "exchange between tribes like..." might be achieved 
sustainably as a part of ongoing practice if every exchange that any 
"tribe" is engaged in anyhow and anyway (as our WOSonOSes and other 
exchanges) simply takes a closer look at "diversity" and then invites 
those of other tribes that they feel increases "diversity" for their 
exchange.

This would intensify the exchange in a simple and ongoing way without 
arranging an additional exchange between the "tribes". It would also 
give space for discussing such things as "liberation, participation, 
collective intelligence, deep dialogue" and other grand things 
participants care for.

I have and still do encourage the conveners of OST exchanges of all 
kinds to increase the diversity including the invitation to folks from 
"other tribes"... completely independent of any "crisis" but keeping in 
mind that I love "crisis" because it is one of the prerequisites for the 
Force of Selforganisation to really get steamed up.

Usually, our exchanges are focused on our craft but there are many more 
things that happen in exchanges such as in a WOSonOS. And it would not 
surprise me if any of the "tribes" that Rolf has in mind (Peggy could 
add 150 more, all gathered in her marvellous Book on that topic) 
experience similar things aside from the focus on the craft.

Thus, as a participant in the WOSonOS this October in Berlin I hope that 
those of you reading this from other "tribes" join in. Here is the link
> https://wosonos2020.berlin/

Reading the first line of the invitation:
"WOSonOS is the annual worldwide meeting of Open Space practitioners..."
simply imagine that "practitioners" can be expanded to "all who care"...

Greetings from a sunny Saturday morning in Belin Lichterfeld, our house 
is on the corner of Draisweg and Resselsteig (with the photovoltaic 
panels on the roof) where the gate to our garden is always open...
see here
> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Draisweg+1,+12209+Berlin/@52.4162003,13.3267668,64m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x47a85b22273bf5c7:0xa0c56737e10b4a3c!8m2!3d52.41622!4d13.32688

Wishing you a great day on your porch at River Falls Drive

cheers and hugs (with digital hugs there is no distancing)
mmp








Am 03.04.2020 um 22:29 schrieb Harrison Owen via OSList:
> Exchange... yes. And on that note I might suggest that "getting the 
> whole system in the room" (Marv Weisbord's phrase) is certainly related 
> to the idea of diversity -- but not quite the same thing a my meaning 
> when I described "diversity" as one of the critical five preconditions 
> for self organization. My understanding of diversity may be achieved 
> when "all who care" are there (for the OS). "Caring" is the operative 
> word. Putting it simply: "If you care, you got to be there." "Those who 
> care might include: The whole system, less than the whole system, or 
> more. I've had the experience (as I am sure you have as well, Michael) 
> when total onlookers, just casual observers, suddenly discover that they 
> have an interest, some input -- and actually care. Sometimes they just 
> stand in the doorways, but on occasion they just moved right in and took 
> over -- to the benefit of everybody. Why or how -- who knows??? But they 
> cared! I've seen this happen often enough that I added another little 
> reminder to myself and whomsoever..."Honor the Stranger." They always 
> show up and their gifts can be extravagant. Strangers in out midst is by 
> no means a bad thing.
> 
> Harrison
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Rolf Schneidereit via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Cc: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
> Sent: Fri, Apr 3, 2020 3:24 am
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and change
> 
> Dear Rolf,
> 
> exchange is what OSLIST thrives on.
> 
> For me, it is (was) THE? worldwide place for reflecting and learning and
> unfolding about my working and living as an os facilitator... in
> addition to my regular interaction in local, regional and worldwide
> OSonOS, including the Stammtische in Berlin (inactive for the duration
> of physical contact restrictions with the hope that the WOSonOS in
> Berlin in October of this year will be possible and, of course,
> Stammtische again...).
> 
> Looking at the 5 or so prerequisites for the unfolding of
> selforganisation (the center of my craft), I have always looked
> specifically at "diversity" (or as some say "getting the whole system in
> the room") and advocated that our os-exchanges would profit from high
> diversity as far as participants are concerned. I always felt that
> "diversity" was one of the prerequisites that we have some influence in.
> For instance, who all we would invite to our events (including OSLIST).
> 
> Looking at that aspect, diversity can be expanded in the same way as we
> suggest to our clients. Usually, we ask some simple questions in the
> planning stage of an event, such as "who all needs to be at the event to
> increase the chance for fullfilling both our aspirations we have around
> the "burning business issue" and the chance for action on the stuff that
> we feel needs to be taken?".
> 
> Often, I have found that in answering this question some pretty relevant
> groups were not in focus, such as "the customer" which, in a school
> setting, might be the students, in a parish the folks that attend the
> worships, in a company that specialises on "customer tailored
> nutritional products" the consumers of those products... or, in an os
> for the future of an NGO the folks that provide the finances or the
> government agencies that are needed for cooperation or the competitors
> in the same or related fields.
> 
> Now, my and the efforts of others to increase "diversity" in "our"
> events have been only partially successful. Asking ourselves the
> "diversity" question certainly surface those that should be invited. For
> an Open Space Learning Exchange or other events we invite to for
> reflection and learning? etc. that might be:
> 
> --- our clients
> --- children
> --- scholars, scientists, researchers
> --- facilitators of all kinds
> --- caterers
> --- facility managers
> --- event managers in hotels etc. where os events take place
> --- journalists (newspapers, scientific journals, radio, TV, internet...)
> --- non-facilitators that are curious
> --- former participants of os events
> --- writers that have produced works around ost
> ---
> ---
> 
> If we had a planning meeting, this list would certainly be expanded.
> 
> In this spirit, we would help expand time and space for
> selforganisation... any time, corona, war, hurricanes, climate change,
> you name it... even in peace and other happy times.
> 
> Apart from expanding on this I presently am participating in efforts in
> my immediate familiy, our neighborhood, in Berlin and so on, to slow
> down the spread of Corona to find ways to live with it.
> 
> Personally, I am enjoying some of the side effects of the presently
> challenging situation: practically no contrails over Berlin with clear
> skies and many more stars than usual, the reduction of noise (hardly any
> cars), the enormous unfolding of actions in civil society... in the face
> of closed schools, limiting contact restrictions, a dearth of protective
> masks, shortage of toilet paper... what have you.
> 
> Greetings from Berlin and looking forward to analog hugs maybe
> definitely at the WOSonOS this fall
> mmp
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am 31.03.2020 um 09:46 schrieb Rolf Schneidereit via OSList:
>  > Dear Mates,
>  >
>  > would like to get your feedback. I'm wondering: is now the time to 
> intensify the exchange between tribes like Art of Hosting, Open Space, 
> Liberating Structures, World Caf?; Theory U and many others?
>  >
>  > With all individual differences - we share extraordinary times. We're 
> facing an urgent crisis which will cost many lives, we're shure to 
> expect the next economical crisis and we're amid the fast expanding 
> crisis of the ecosystem and the climate.
>  >
>  > Could it be helpful in this situation if the different streams for 
> liberation, participation, collective intelligence, deep dialogue and so 
> on comes together to share their insights, their initiatives, their 
> gifts? How can we support each other to support the common good and the 
> necessary transition?
>  >
>  > What do you think and sense? I'm going to sent this question to the 
> AoH- and the OS-List. If this call resonates with you feel free to sent 
> it to other communities you belong to.
>  >
>  > And how?
>  > The idea appears after a virtual Open Space. One insight: We can do a 
> really large gathering online. After that I've offered Lucas Cioffi from 
> Qiqochat a sponsorship for an online event with up to 300 participants 
> but he declined: He will offer the use of Qiqochat for such an event for 
> free! What we can do there (for example):
>  > - Check-in (perhaps as Impromptu Networking)
>  > - conversation caf? in small circles (recommendation of Christine 
> Koehler)
>  > - Open Space
>  > - Harvesting
>  > - Check-out
>  >
>  > If there is a encouraging feedback the next step will be a first 
> preparation (zoom) call. Can you imagine to support and host such a call?
>  >
>  > Looking forward to your response
>  > (or not - following the Law of two feets)
>  >
>  > Rolf

-- 
Michael M Pannwitz
Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
++49 - 30-772 8000
mmpannwitz at gmail.com




------------------------------

Message: 11
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 15:47:37 +0200
From: "Alexander Schilling" <alexander.schilling at raumfuer.de>
To: "'Thomas Herrmann'" <thomas at openspaceconsulting.com>, "'World wide
    Open Space Technology email list'" <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
Subject: Re: [OSList] open space online
Message-ID: <004701d60a87$9a8b2000$cfa16000$@raumfuer.de>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hey Thomas,

 

nice to meet you here again : ) Thank you and Bhavesh for the answer. Looks very useful. I will try it!

 

Have a nice Weekend

Alexander

 

 

Von: Thomas Herrmann <thomas at openspaceconsulting.com> 
Gesendet: Freitag, 3. April 2020 23:02
An: World wide Open Space Technology email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
Cc: Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>; Alexander Schilling <alexander.schilling at raumfuer.de>
Betreff: Re: [OSList] open space online

 

QiqoChat is a useful software for this. 

Thomas

Skickat fr?n min iPhone





3 apr. 2020 kl. 22:53 skrev Alexander Schilling via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> >:

?Hi all, 

 

peparing my next open spaces , i would like to ask you: which tool - beside the combination of video-chat and mural/googledocs-like tools - would you recommend to do an open space online. Is there an all in one solution, readily prepared for online open spaces? I need it for less and for more, than 50 people.

Alexander Schilling

 

Fon +49 40 32 84 51 16 <tel:+49%2040%2032%2084%2051%2016> 

Mob. +49 177 7531168 <tel:+49%20177%207531168> 





www.raumfuer.de

www.twitter.com


Am 03.04.2020 um 22:29 schrieb Harrison Owen via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> >:

Exchange... yes. And on that note I might suggest that "getting the whole system in the room" (Marv Weisbord's phrase) is certainly related to the idea of diversity -- but not quite the same thing a my meaning when I described "diversity" as one of the critical five preconditions for self organization. My understanding of diversity may be achieved when "all who care" are there (for the OS). "Caring" is the operative word. Putting it simply: "If you care, you got to be there." "Those who care might include: The whole system, less than the whole system, or more. I've had the experience (as I am sure you have as well, Michael) when total onlookers, just casual observers, suddenly discover that they have an interest, some input -- and actually care. Sometimes they just stand in the doorways, but on occasion they just moved right in and took over -- to the benefit of everybody. Why or how -- who knows??? But they cared! I've seen this happen often enough that I added another little remind
 er to myself and whomsoever..."Honor the Stranger." They always show up and their gifts can be extravagant. Strangers in out midst is by no means a bad thing. 

 

Harrison



-----Original Message-----
From: Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> >
To: Rolf Schneidereit via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> >
Cc: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com <mailto:mmpannwitz at gmail.com> >
Sent: Fri, Apr 3, 2020 3:24 am
Subject: Re: [OSList] Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and change

Dear Rolf,

exchange is what OSLIST thrives on.

For me, it is (was) THE  worldwide place for reflecting and learning and 
unfolding about my working and living as an os facilitator... in 
addition to my regular interaction in local, regional and worldwide 
OSonOS, including the Stammtische in Berlin (inactive for the duration 
of physical contact restrictions with the hope that the WOSonOS in 
Berlin in October of this year will be possible and, of course, 
Stammtische again...).

Looking at the 5 or so prerequisites for the unfolding of 
selforganisation (the center of my craft), I have always looked 
specifically at "diversity" (or as some say "getting the whole system in 
the room") and advocated that our os-exchanges would profit from high 
diversity as far as participants are concerned. I always felt that 
"diversity" was one of the prerequisites that we have some influence in. 
For instance, who all we would invite to our events (including OSLIST).

Looking at that aspect, diversity can be expanded in the same way as we 
suggest to our clients. Usually, we ask some simple questions in the 
planning stage of an event, such as "who all needs to be at the event to 
increase the chance for fullfilling both our aspirations we have around 
the "burning business issue" and the chance for action on the stuff that 
we feel needs to be taken?".

Often, I have found that in answering this question some pretty relevant 
groups were not in focus, such as "the customer" which, in a school 
setting, might be the students, in a parish the folks that attend the 
worships, in a company that specialises on "customer tailored 
nutritional products" the consumers of those products... or, in an os 
for the future of an NGO the folks that provide the finances or the 
government agencies that are needed for cooperation or the competitors 
in the same or related fields.

Now, my and the efforts of others to increase "diversity" in "our" 
events have been only partially successful. Asking ourselves the 
"diversity" question certainly surface those that should be invited. For 
an Open Space Learning Exchange or other events we invite to for 
reflection and learning  etc. that might be:

--- our clients
--- children
--- scholars, scientists, researchers
--- facilitators of all kinds
--- caterers
--- facility managers
--- event managers in hotels etc. where os events take place
--- journalists (newspapers, scientific journals, radio, TV, internet...)
--- non-facilitators that are curious
--- former participants of os events
--- writers that have produced works around ost
---
---

If we had a planning meeting, this list would certainly be expanded.

In this spirit, we would help expand time and space for 
selforganisation... any time, corona, war, hurricanes, climate change, 
you name it... even in peace and other happy times.

Apart from expanding on this I presently am participating in efforts in 
my immediate familiy, our neighborhood, in Berlin and so on, to slow 
down the spread of Corona to find ways to live with it.

Personally, I am enjoying some of the side effects of the presently 
challenging situation: practically no contrails over Berlin with clear 
skies and many more stars than usual, the reduction of noise (hardly any 
cars), the enormous unfolding of actions in civil society... in the face 
of closed schools, limiting contact restrictions, a dearth of protective 
masks, shortage of toilet paper... what have you.

Greetings from Berlin and looking forward to analog hugs maybe 
definitely at the WOSonOS this fall
mmp





Am 31.03.2020 um 09:46 schrieb Rolf Schneidereit via OSList:
> Dear Mates,
> 
> would like to get your feedback. I'm wondering: is now the time to intensify the exchange between tribes like Art of Hosting, Open Space, Liberating Structures, World Caf?; Theory U and many others?
> 
> With all individual differences - we share extraordinary times. We're facing an urgent crisis which will cost many lives, we're shure to expect the next economical crisis and we're amid the fast expanding crisis of the ecosystem and the climate.
> 
> Could it be helpful in this situation if the different streams for liberation, participation, collective intelligence, deep dialogue and so on comes together to share their insights, their initiatives, their gifts? How can we support each other to support the common good and the necessary transition?
> 
> What do you think and sense? I'm going to sent this question to the AoH- and the OS-List. If this call resonates with you feel free to sent it to other communities you belong to.
> 
> And how?
> The idea appears after a virtual Open Space. One insight: We can do a really large gathering online. After that I've offered Lucas Cioffi from Qiqochat a sponsorship for an online event with up to 300 participants but he declined: He will offer the use of Qiqochat for such an event for free! What we can do there (for example):
> - Check-in (perhaps as Impromptu Networking)
> - conversation caf? in small circles (recommendation of Christine Koehler)
> - Open Space
> - Harvesting
> - Check-out
> 
> If there is a encouraging feedback the next step will be a first preparation (zoom) call. Can you imagine to support and host such a call?
> 
> Looking forward to your response
> (or not - following the Law of two feets)
> 
> Rolf
> _______________________________________________
> OSList mailing list
> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:OSList at lists.openspacetech.org> 
> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org> 
> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
> 

-- 
Michael M Pannwitz
Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
++49 - 30-772 8000
mmpannwitz at gmail.com <mailto:mmpannwitz at gmail.com> 


Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 492 resident Open 
Space Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 142 countries worldwide
www.openspaceworldmap.org <http://www.openspaceworldmap.org> 

At my publisher you find books and task cards on open space and other 
treasures, most in German, some in English, some as ebooks, some 
multilingual
https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Kommunikation 


_______________________________________________
OSList mailing list
To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:OSList at lists.openspacetech.org> 
To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org> 
To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org

_______________________________________________
OSList mailing list
To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:OSList at lists.openspacetech.org> 
To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org> 
To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org

_______________________________________________
OSList mailing list
To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:OSList at lists.openspacetech.org> 
To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org> 
To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20200404/009debc4/attachment-0001.html>

------------------------------

Message: 12
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 10:59:00 -0400
From: Tony Budak <tonybudak at tbmw.org>
To: oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
Subject: Re: [OSList] Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and
    change
Message-ID: <8cafb74e-2912-fd65-cd2e-a69eb14ec7bf at tbmw.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"

Hi There,

Check out TBMW's April outreach.
A Self-Managed Co-produced Conversation
https://pickatime.acuityscheduling.com/schedule.php

On 4/4/2020 8:18 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList wrote:
> Dear Harrison,
>
> yes, "whole system in the room" differs from "all who care".
>
> In FutureSearch a great deal of effort is undertaken to identify parts 
> of the system... in a community/neighborhood this may add up to 100 or 
> more "parts". Once all have been named they are grouped under 8 
> headings. For instance, a day care would be grouped with related parts 
> and move into the group "Children". For each of these 8 groups 8 
> people are searched for that are willing, able and influential. They 
> gather for 3 days and wind up with actions... It might take up to 6 
> months and more of planning with many meetings to get this "system".
>
> My motivation for mentioning the planning for an ost-event with the 5 
> or so prerequisites in mind and
> picking diversity as one of the prerequisite roots in the question of 
> Rolf Schneidereit on "exchange between tribes like...".
>
> I wonder if the "exchange between tribes like..." might be achieved 
> sustainably as a part of ongoing practice if every exchange that any 
> "tribe" is engaged in anyhow and anyway (as our WOSonOSes and other 
> exchanges) simply takes a closer look at "diversity" and then invites 
> those of other tribes that they feel increases "diversity" for their 
> exchange.
>
> This would intensify the exchange in a simple and ongoing way without 
> arranging an additional exchange between the "tribes". It would also 
> give space for discussing such things as "liberation, participation, 
> collective intelligence, deep dialogue" and other grand things 
> participants care for.
>
> I have and still do encourage the conveners of OST exchanges of all 
> kinds to increase the diversity including the invitation to folks from 
> "other tribes"... completely independent of any "crisis" but keeping 
> in mind that I love "crisis" because it is one of the prerequisites 
> for the Force of Selforganisation to really get steamed up.
>
> Usually, our exchanges are focused on our craft but there are many 
> more things that happen in exchanges such as in a WOSonOS. And it 
> would not surprise me if any of the "tribes" that Rolf has in mind 
> (Peggy could add 150 more, all gathered in her marvellous Book on that 
> topic) experience similar things aside from the focus on the craft.
>
> Thus, as a participant in the WOSonOS this October in Berlin I hope 
> that those of you reading this from other "tribes" join in. Here is 
> the link
>> https://wosonos2020.berlin/
>
> Reading the first line of the invitation:
> "WOSonOS is the annual worldwide meeting of Open Space practitioners..."
> simply imagine that "practitioners" can be expanded to "all who care"...
>
> Greetings from a sunny Saturday morning in Belin Lichterfeld, our 
> house is on the corner of Draisweg and Resselsteig (with the 
> photovoltaic panels on the roof) where the gate to our garden is 
> always open...
> see here
>> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Draisweg+1,+12209+Berlin/@52.4162003,13.3267668,64m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x47a85b22273bf5c7:0xa0c56737e10b4a3c!8m2!3d52.41622!4d13.32688 
>>
>
> Wishing you a great day on your porch at River Falls Drive
>
> cheers and hugs (with digital hugs there is no distancing)
> mmp
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 03.04.2020 um 22:29 schrieb Harrison Owen via OSList:
>> Exchange... yes. And on that note I might suggest that "getting the 
>> whole system in the room" (Marv Weisbord's phrase) is certainly 
>> related to the idea of diversity -- but not quite the same thing a my 
>> meaning when I described "diversity" as one of the critical five 
>> preconditions for self organization. My understanding of diversity 
>> may be achieved when "all who care" are there (for the OS). "Caring" 
>> is the operative word. Putting it simply: "If you care, you got to be 
>> there." "Those who care might include: The whole system, less than 
>> the whole system, or more. I've had the experience (as I am sure you 
>> have as well, Michael) when total onlookers, just casual observers, 
>> suddenly discover that they have an interest, some input -- and 
>> actually care. Sometimes they just stand in the doorways, but on 
>> occasion they just moved right in and took over -- to the benefit of 
>> everybody. Why or how -- who knows??? But they cared! I've seen this 
>> happen often enough that I added another little reminder to myself 
>> and whomsoever..."Honor the Stranger." They always show up and their 
>> gifts can be extravagant. Strangers in out midst is by no means a bad 
>> thing.
>>
>> Harrison
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> To: Rolf Schneidereit via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> Cc: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Fri, Apr 3, 2020 3:24 am
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and 
>> change
>>
>> Dear Rolf,
>>
>> exchange is what OSLIST thrives on.
>>
>> For me, it is (was) THE? worldwide place for reflecting and learning and
>> unfolding about my working and living as an os facilitator... in
>> addition to my regular interaction in local, regional and worldwide
>> OSonOS, including the Stammtische in Berlin (inactive for the duration
>> of physical contact restrictions with the hope that the WOSonOS in
>> Berlin in October of this year will be possible and, of course,
>> Stammtische again...).
>>
>> Looking at the 5 or so prerequisites for the unfolding of
>> selforganisation (the center of my craft), I have always looked
>> specifically at "diversity" (or as some say "getting the whole system in
>> the room") and advocated that our os-exchanges would profit from high
>> diversity as far as participants are concerned. I always felt that
>> "diversity" was one of the prerequisites that we have some influence in.
>> For instance, who all we would invite to our events (including OSLIST).
>>
>> Looking at that aspect, diversity can be expanded in the same way as we
>> suggest to our clients. Usually, we ask some simple questions in the
>> planning stage of an event, such as "who all needs to be at the event to
>> increase the chance for fullfilling both our aspirations we have around
>> the "burning business issue" and the chance for action on the stuff that
>> we feel needs to be taken?".
>>
>> Often, I have found that in answering this question some pretty relevant
>> groups were not in focus, such as "the customer" which, in a school
>> setting, might be the students, in a parish the folks that attend the
>> worships, in a company that specialises on "customer tailored
>> nutritional products" the consumers of those products... or, in an os
>> for the future of an NGO the folks that provide the finances or the
>> government agencies that are needed for cooperation or the competitors
>> in the same or related fields.
>>
>> Now, my and the efforts of others to increase "diversity" in "our"
>> events have been only partially successful. Asking ourselves the
>> "diversity" question certainly surface those that should be invited. For
>> an Open Space Learning Exchange or other events we invite to for
>> reflection and learning? etc. that might be:
>>
>> --- our clients
>> --- children
>> --- scholars, scientists, researchers
>> --- facilitators of all kinds
>> --- caterers
>> --- facility managers
>> --- event managers in hotels etc. where os events take place
>> --- journalists (newspapers, scientific journals, radio, TV, 
>> internet...)
>> --- non-facilitators that are curious
>> --- former participants of os events
>> --- writers that have produced works around ost
>> ---
>> ---
>>
>> If we had a planning meeting, this list would certainly be expanded.
>>
>> In this spirit, we would help expand time and space for
>> selforganisation... any time, corona, war, hurricanes, climate change,
>> you name it... even in peace and other happy times.
>>
>> Apart from expanding on this I presently am participating in efforts in
>> my immediate familiy, our neighborhood, in Berlin and so on, to slow
>> down the spread of Corona to find ways to live with it.
>>
>> Personally, I am enjoying some of the side effects of the presently
>> challenging situation: practically no contrails over Berlin with clear
>> skies and many more stars than usual, the reduction of noise (hardly any
>> cars), the enormous unfolding of actions in civil society... in the face
>> of closed schools, limiting contact restrictions, a dearth of protective
>> masks, shortage of toilet paper... what have you.
>>
>> Greetings from Berlin and looking forward to analog hugs maybe
>> definitely at the WOSonOS this fall
>> mmp
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 31.03.2020 um 09:46 schrieb Rolf Schneidereit via OSList:
>> ?> Dear Mates,
>> ?>
>> ?> would like to get your feedback. I'm wondering: is now the time to 
>> intensify the exchange between tribes like Art of Hosting, Open 
>> Space, Liberating Structures, World Caf?; Theory U and many others?
>> ?>
>> ?> With all individual differences - we share extraordinary times. 
>> We're facing an urgent crisis which will cost many lives, we're shure 
>> to expect the next economical crisis and we're amid the fast 
>> expanding crisis of the ecosystem and the climate.
>> ?>
>> ?> Could it be helpful in this situation if the different streams for 
>> liberation, participation, collective intelligence, deep dialogue and 
>> so on comes together to share their insights, their initiatives, 
>> their gifts? How can we support each other to support the common good 
>> and the necessary transition?
>> ?>
>> ?> What do you think and sense? I'm going to sent this question to 
>> the AoH- and the OS-List. If this call resonates with you feel free 
>> to sent it to other communities you belong to.
>> ?>
>> ?> And how?
>> ?> The idea appears after a virtual Open Space. One insight: We can 
>> do a really large gathering online. After that I've offered Lucas 
>> Cioffi from Qiqochat a sponsorship for an online event with up to 300 
>> participants but he declined: He will offer the use of Qiqochat for 
>> such an event for free! What we can do there (for example):
>> ?> - Check-in (perhaps as Impromptu Networking)
>> ?> - conversation caf? in small circles (recommendation of Christine 
>> Koehler)
>> ?> - Open Space
>> ?> - Harvesting
>> ?> - Check-out
>> ?>
>> ?> If there is a encouraging feedback the next step will be a first 
>> preparation (zoom) call. Can you imagine to support and host such a 
>> call?
>> ?>
>> ?> Looking forward to your response
>> ?> (or not - following the Law of two feets)
>> ?>
>> ?> Rolf
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20200404/e27c901b/attachment-0001.html>

------------------------------

Message: 13
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 18:00:18 +0200
From: Rolf Schneidereit <schneidereit at gut-moderiert.de>
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
    <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
Subject: Re: [OSList] open space online
Message-ID: <945A2199-34FC-417F-B034-00382F15104B at gut-moderiert.de>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hey Alexander,

there will be a test of Qiqochat and Open Space next Monday,
see below

Rolf


NEXT EXPERIMENT
We learned so much in this experiment that we decided: WE WANT MORE!
We are planning to do an experiment now every other Monday.
The next one coming up is:

VOSE #2: Staying socially connected in times of physical distancing 
Monday April 6th
7:30 - Introduction to Qiqochat from Lucas
8pm - 10pm Virtual Open Space
https://qiqochat.com/e/CFlPxMjDcbEUvXRsGNemvJWNN <https://qiqochat.com/e/CFlPxMjDcbEUvXRsGNemvJWNN>


Am 04.04.2020/ Kw14 um 15:47 schrieb Alexander Schilling via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:

Hey Thomas,
 
nice to meet you here again : ) Thank you and Bhavesh for the answer. Looks very useful. I will try it!
 
Have a nice Weekend
Alexander
 
 
Von: Thomas Herrmann <thomas at openspaceconsulting.com> 
Gesendet: Freitag, 3. April 2020 23:02
An: World wide Open Space Technology email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
Cc: Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>; Alexander Schilling <alexander.schilling at raumfuer.de>
Betreff: Re: [OSList] open space online
 
QiqoChat is a useful software for this. 
Thomas

Skickat fr?n min iPhone


> 3 apr. 2020 kl. 22:53 skrev Alexander Schilling via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>:
> 
> ?Hi all, 
>  
> peparing my next open spaces , i would like to ask you: which tool - beside the combination of video-chat and mural/googledocs-like tools - would you recommend to do an open space online. Is there an all in one solution, readily prepared for online open spaces? I need it for less and for more, than 50 people.
> 
> Alexander Schilling
>  
> Fon +49 40 32 84 51 16 <tel:+49%2040%2032%2084%2051%2016>
> Mob. +49 177 7531168 <tel:+49%20177%207531168>
> 
> 
> www.raumfuer.de <x-msg://77/www.raumfuer.de>
> www.twitter.com <x-msg://77/www.twitter.com/raumfuer>
> 
> Am 03.04.2020 um 22:29 schrieb Harrison Owen via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>:
> 
>> Exchange... yes. And on that note I might suggest that "getting the whole system in the room" (Marv Weisbord's phrase) is certainly related to the idea of diversity -- but not quite the same thing a my meaning when I described "diversity" as one of the critical five preconditions for self organization. My understanding of diversity may be achieved when "all who care" are there (for the OS). "Caring" is the operative word. Putting it simply: "If you care, you got to be there." "Those who care might include: The whole system, less than the whole system, or more. I've had the experience (as I am sure you have as well, Michael) when total onlookers, just casual observers, suddenly discover that they have an interest, some input -- and actually care. Sometimes they just stand in the doorways, but on occasion they just moved right in and took over -- to the benefit of everybody. Why or how -- who knows??? But they cared! I've seen this happen often enough that I added another little rem
 inder to myself and whomsoever..."Honor the Stranger." They always show up and their gifts can be extravagant. Strangers in out midst is by no means a bad thing. 
>>  
>> Harrison
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> To: Rolf Schneidereit via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> Cc: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com <mailto:mmpannwitz at gmail.com>>
>> Sent: Fri, Apr 3, 2020 3:24 am
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Meeting of the tribes: Our gifts for crisis and change
>> 
>> Dear Rolf,
>> 
>> exchange is what OSLIST thrives on.
>> 
>> For me, it is (was) THE  worldwide place for reflecting and learning and 
>> unfolding about my working and living as an os facilitator... in 
>> addition to my regular interaction in local, regional and worldwide 
>> OSonOS, including the Stammtische in Berlin (inactive for the duration 
>> of physical contact restrictions with the hope that the WOSonOS in 
>> Berlin in October of this year will be possible and, of course, 
>> Stammtische again...).
>> 
>> Looking at the 5 or so prerequisites for the unfolding of 
>> selforganisation (the center of my craft), I have always looked 
>> specifically at "diversity" (or as some say "getting the whole system in 
>> the room") and advocated that our os-exchanges would profit from high 
>> diversity as far as participants are concerned. I always felt that 
>> "diversity" was one of the prerequisites that we have some influence in. 
>> For instance, who all we would invite to our events (including OSLIST).
>> 
>> Looking at that aspect, diversity can be expanded in the same way as we 
>> suggest to our clients. Usually, we ask some simple questions in the 
>> planning stage of an event, such as "who all needs to be at the event to 
>> increase the chance for fullfilling both our aspirations we have around 
>> the "burning business issue" and the chance for action on the stuff that 
>> we feel needs to be taken?".
>> 
>> Often, I have found that in answering this question some pretty relevant 
>> groups were not in focus, such as "the customer" which, in a school 
>> setting, might be the students, in a parish the folks that attend the 
>> worships, in a company that specialises on "customer tailored 
>> nutritional products" the consumers of those products... or, in an os 
>> for the future of an NGO the folks that provide the finances or the 
>> government agencies that are needed for cooperation or the competitors 
>> in the same or related fields.
>> 
>> Now, my and the efforts of others to increase "diversity" in "our" 
>> events have been only partially successful. Asking ourselves the 
>> "diversity" question certainly surface those that should be invited. For 
>> an Open Space Learning Exchange or other events we invite to for 
>> reflection and learning  etc. that might be:
>> 
>> --- our clients
>> --- children
>> --- scholars, scientists, researchers
>> --- facilitators of all kinds
>> --- caterers
>> --- facility managers
>> --- event managers in hotels etc. where os events take place
>> --- journalists (newspapers, scientific journals, radio, TV, internet...)
>> --- non-facilitators that are curious
>> --- former participants of os events
>> --- writers that have produced works around ost
>> ---
>> ---
>> 
>> If we had a planning meeting, this list would certainly be expanded.
>> 
>> In this spirit, we would help expand time and space for 
>> selforganisation... any time, corona, war, hurricanes, climate change, 
>> you name it... even in peace and other happy times.
>> 
>> Apart from expanding on this I presently am participating in efforts in 
>> my immediate familiy, our neighborhood, in Berlin and so on, to slow 
>> down the spread of Corona to find ways to live with it.
>> 
>> Personally, I am enjoying some of the side effects of the presently 
>> challenging situation: practically no contrails over Berlin with clear 
>> skies and many more stars than usual, the reduction of noise (hardly any 
>> cars), the enormous unfolding of actions in civil society... in the face 
>> of closed schools, limiting contact restrictions, a dearth of protective 
>> masks, shortage of toilet paper... what have you.
>> 
>> Greetings from Berlin and looking forward to analog hugs maybe 
>> definitely at the WOSonOS this fall
>> mmp
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Am 31.03.2020 um 09:46 schrieb Rolf Schneidereit via OSList:
>> > Dear Mates,
>> > 
>> > would like to get your feedback. I'm wondering: is now the time to intensify the exchange between tribes like Art of Hosting, Open Space, Liberating Structures, World Caf?; Theory U and many others?
>> > 
>> > With all individual differences - we share extraordinary times. We're facing an urgent crisis which will cost many lives, we're shure to expect the next economical crisis and we're amid the fast expanding crisis of the ecosystem and the climate.
>> > 
>> > Could it be helpful in this situation if the different streams for liberation, participation, collective intelligence, deep dialogue and so on comes together to share their insights, their initiatives, their gifts? How can we support each other to support the common good and the necessary transition?
>> > 
>> > What do you think and sense? I'm going to sent this question to the AoH- and the OS-List. If this call resonates with you feel free to sent it to other communities you belong to.
>> > 
>> > And how?
>> > The idea appears after a virtual Open Space. One insight: We can do a really large gathering online. After that I've offered Lucas Cioffi from Qiqochat a sponsorship for an online event with up to 300 participants but he declined: He will offer the use of Qiqochat for such an event for free! What we can do there (for example):
>> > - Check-in (perhaps as Impromptu Networking)
>> > - conversation caf? in small circles (recommendation of Christine Koehler)
>> > - Open Space
>> > - Harvesting
>> > - Check-out
>> > 
>> > If there is a encouraging feedback the next step will be a first preparation (zoom) call. Can you imagine to support and host such a call?
>> > 
>> > Looking forward to your response
>> > (or not - following the Law of two feets)
>> > 
>> > Rolf
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > OSList mailing list
>> > To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:OSList at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> > To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
>> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org>
>> > Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
>> > 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Michael M Pannwitz
>> Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
>> ++49 - 30-772 8000
>> mmpannwitz at gmail.com <mailto:mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
>> 
>> 
>> Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 492 resident Open 
>> Space Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 142 countries worldwide
>> www.openspaceworldmap.org <http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/>
>> 
>> At my publisher you find books and task cards on open space and other 
>> treasures, most in German, some in English, some as ebooks, some 
>> multilingual
>> https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Kommunikation <https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Kommunikation>
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> OSList mailing list
>> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:OSList at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org>
>> Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>_______________________________________________
>> OSList mailing list
>> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:OSList at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org>
>> Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
> _______________________________________________
> OSList mailing list
> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:OSList at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org>
> Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>_______________________________________________
OSList mailing list
To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20200404/43f4528a/attachment-0001.html>

------------------------------

Subject: Digest Footer

_______________________________________________
OSList mailing list
To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org

------------------------------

End of OSList Digest, Vol 108, Issue 3
**************************************
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20200404/66c58071/attachment.html>


More information about the OSList mailing list