[OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 98, Issue 26

Mark Carmel markacarmel at gmail.com
Fri Jun 21 18:33:37 PDT 2019


The greatest current huge organization that failed big time to implement
self organization is the democratic party, rigging the primary against
bernie for hillary and then turning the spies loose against their biggest
enemy in the world, Trump...to my US friends, Vote Trump in 2020 and send a
message to the crooked democrats that seek to rig everything including
their fake news outlets...

That will foster much more open, honest space in the world versus the world
takeover that the dumb ass DC dems tried and failed to do...Thanks!

MC

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> From: David Osborne <dosborne at change-fusion.com>
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> Yes, and ......this is all part of self-organization.  Stability is being
> disrupted and people are using the law of two feet to make their choice as
> individual agents in the system.
>
> David
>
>
> *David R. Osborne*
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>
> 6402 Arlington Blvd., Suite 1120, Falls Church, VA 22042
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> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 6:39 AM Daniel Mezick via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> > <smiley face here>
> >
> > I'm glad you find it useful, interesting etc.
> >
> > Every day worldwide, "Agile" is forced. All in the name of
> self-management
> > and so on. You can imagine the results, and the harm to people. Here is
> one
> > of the stories:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> https://web.archive.org/web/20190313181520/https://thetech.com/2016/02/11/istfeature-v136-n3
> >
> > IS&T is attempting to apply the agile approach to the entire
> organization.
> > ?Agile organizations,? Charles wrote in a February email, ?need empowered
> > leadership at the individual and team levels ? that means less management
> > and more fluidity.?
> >
> > The sweeping transformation that is currently underway at MIT?s
> > Information Systems and Technology office is one that is unprecedented in
> > its scope and backlash from employees.
> > This has resulted in roughly 20 percent of nearly 300 staff members
> > leaving since February, instead of the average 8 or 9 percent annual
> > turnover. The reorganization stands out in several ways. Many longtime
> > employees have resigned ? by the estimate of a former employee, Laura
> > Baldwin ?89, more than 700 years of experience have been lost from people
> > parting ways. A number of those employees have been MIT alumni.
> >
> >
> > See also: https://twitter.com/DanielMezick/status/880124938467913729
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *Daniel Mezick*
> > Phone: 203 915 7248
> > Bio & Contact Info: http://www.DanielMezick.com
> > Latest Book: http://www.InvitingLeadership.com
> >
> > Business Agility Leadership event May 14-15 Boston:
> > The Open Leadership Symposium <https://openleadershipnetwork.com>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jun 21, 2019, at 6:28 AM, Royle, Karl via OSList <
> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for sharing this,  having just read holocracy... it?s good to know
> > that these things always need adaption to cultures...
> >
> > The point about power and mandating is also very interesting.
> >
> > Best Karl
> >
> > Sent by iPhone
> > Karl Royle
> > Head of Enterprise and Commercial Development
> >
> > Faculty of Education Health and Wellbeing
> > University of Wolverhampton
> > 01902323006
> > 07815416698
> > @karlroyle. On Twitter
> > Karlr61 Skype
> >
> >
> > On 21 Jun 2019, at 11:09, Daniel Mezick via OSList <
> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jake,
> >
> > There are many failed examples of "mandated self organization." You can
> > imagine the success rate of such an approach.
> >
> > Now, the Agile industry is pretty good at selling this "mandated self
> > organization" stuff. But I'm getting ahead of the story...
> >
> > Most of the failure stories do not make it out into the wild. But the
> > insiders do whisper about them. To friends and colleagues. In dinner
> > discussions at conferences. And so on...
> >
> >
> >
> > The Mandate of Holacracy at Zappos
> >
> >
> > In 2013-14, Zappos mandated a way of working called 'holacracy.' The idea
> > was, I think, to encourage more self-organization. More good outcomes.
> I'm
> > sure the intentions were good at the time...
> >
> > But there were big problems by late 2013.
> >
> > By 2014, the "mandate of holacracy for self-organization at Zappos" was
> in
> > big trouble, even as the press was celebrating 'holacracy' at Zappos as
> the
> > future of work, the shining example, the path forward in the new world of
> > work.
> >
> > But there were big problems. Lots of resistance. I heard the whispers
> > through a friend on the inside, a person with access to the CEO.
> >
> > Through that friend, I quietly offered some help (I had some consulting
> > work inside the org previously,) and in Las Vegas a lunch meeting was
> > arranged with the CEO.
> >
> > I flew out there. I showed up with a file folder with some Open Space
> > stuff inside. We ate tacos.
> >
> > I talked to Tony, the CEO, and briefly explained OST. I took a few
> > questions. We had a nice lunch.
> >
> > The result was that, a couple weeks later, Tony did experiment with a
> very
> > brief OST of 2 hours at a Zappos all-hands meeting. No burning issue. No
> > proceedings, etc.
> >
> > That was it. No further follow-through. No follow-up calls.
> >
> > I did not chase the CEO. But after a few more weeks of silence, I did
> > write this:
> >
> > The Mandate of Holacracy at Zappos
> > https://newtechusa.net/the-mandate-of-holacracy-at-zappos/
> > <
> https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1heGTV-0007wu-4A&i=57e1b682&c=GYYsWhj9GJMaxmCqStUBHCeOk0YwbS4A95x4vnAwlwIMRV9ZViFViiQp1QwI8uPOk1gU313N8INHpP6x4UJxNC0OaGwZtLlZS5Diz867-g1Q3VVO9oMnaTaDdPIwkIXHjcSaTrkjgYBnO5mgMWRsOgIo_aHBCQTa71-UOn7EDmhPckmzNQzcniOv_h-shBce0tsSk6YAdXHYSnQqKq5su85GqZKGhnIYI_6M-Ua56uoP9vndQg-3uuB5bTPRRzgafvSvbuPRHmlm44rYuc4sCQ
> >
> > In case you have not heard, Zappos is rolling out a defined authority
> > distribution scheme called ?holacracy?.
> >
> > The way everyone works will change. Every single employee will be forced
> > to comply with a set of rules they had no part in creating.
> >
> > At the time, the press was celebrating 'holacracy' at Zappos as the
> future
> > of work, the shining example, the path forward in the new world of work.
> >
> > Everyone in the press was applauding and citing what was going on at
> > Zappos as "the future of work."
> >
> > But there was A LOT of resistance to the mandate of 'holacracy' inside
> > Zappos. All of that resistance might have been easily processed
> positively
> > in Open Space, but the CEO did not select that option.
> >
> > Instead, he issued this ultimatum:
> >
> > ADOPT HOLACRACY OR LEAVE:
> >
> >
> https://www.fastcompany.com/3044417/zappos-ceo-tony-hsieh-adopt-holacracy-or-leave
> > <
> https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1heGTV-0007wu-4A&i=57e1b682&c=LoiBhtu6xuWxrzd9L2TJ-PnDM31W_wp5CIV_Afj9-3UUSEcdpGWinDX2Yh-NqcXF4i2OJxHKEWCJEbhWSh_eHGj4hqHNdgBLAGaDtyCME6xZwYhD2ZJ3P_a4UnOiaQnfBehNRSGfR6S6G20dH55ZKxT19mHHhKwrbRJbQiRrpGj8pKS7APLCGcOlMAOChkfbRS8pTOebrjt_wG2fXW7NFszScuRQUuy9EjTSGmak_MkUp7X1i_HIJuFM4ZMXNTeiBDfjVsQkf_5RnhdiMIE7zG__KBWAL5hbolDId3MDdGI
> >
> > Last week, Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh sent his employees the following memo,
> > provided to *Fast Company* by Zappos. In it he offers his employees an
> > ultimatum: adopt Holacracy or quit.
> >
> >
> > Moral of Story: "Mandating self-organization" is misguided at best, and
> > profoundly harmful and deeply disrespectful to people at worst. And:
> >
> > 1. All systems are open
> >
> > 2. All systems are self-organizing
> >
> > 3. Open Space can help
> >
> >
> >  I hope this story helps you Jake. This Google search leads to these
> > listings if you want to examine the story in detail:
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=FqsMXdKZIoLktQXAzoOQBQ&q=holacracy+failure
> > <
> https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1heGTV-0007wu-4A&i=57e1b682&c=im9KY631AbFtxj94Dxi0wo9FvzB_0QwFovhxgnZNALSedC4O1gkY0ekKuZLCM2ohZWuY0yc7FTVfJ3C2c4jbn8GUFiF450YAP05UqJxmIs_Lz3INx28QooVE7sBq8Dnqe4PYledHyBaF3prQfBcQDB-ZfJSL3P1hK7au6Bmd9HyyAUVPQJtp2VnEnvmoyQ8fsJKUbO1t9ESp2PSJb9-G_-JOYkfEpGHR_hhk-7Tw-IKEsvqbM2l-kerRLKCzpLCJjqzORDf-86oO9rWIr40X2gahAiKJLuy06eM9NfYn0YA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <Screen Shot 2019-06-21 at 5.53.32 AM.png>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *Daniel Mezick*
> > Phone: 203 915 7248
> > Bio & Contact Info: http://www.DanielMezick.com
> > <
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> >
> > Latest Book: http://www.InvitingLeadership.com
> > <
> https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1heGTV-0007wu-4A&i=57e1b682&c=iIBiTZbeYvUrXGLIl_23zyg5Nm250AcXT-3aOrWSmcgTQxEGmHGm_FoQV0DLpnJ1Jl5SFwtMUhrelS5fxDXUavCEZmvkLO9s1EK0RiVE6dkdZ3b2ZGQvFjJTfpp0bLk_Ev0UCVEqhl4NBwydnFs5yGpsAF5EIC5PPgC6s4XyuSUpO1JqICTtxwSVAb4lqFEw2dFL_yCpqySaBy8h_v-5-TW0VO6hjBiSrm1Q4zEVmYM
> >
> >
> > Business Agility Leadership event May 14-15 Boston:
> > The Open Leadership Symposium
> > <
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jun 21, 2019, at 3:53 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <
> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Jake and you others,
> >
> > I am intriguing myself with your quest for pitfalls in regard to
> > "implement self-organization".
> > If it is assumed that "self-organization" is inherent in all groups,
> > organisations, systems and in all processes on this planet and in the
> > universe and has been since the Big Bang, it would not be necessary to
> > "implement self-organization".
> > In fact, attempting to "implement self-organization" could in itself be
> > the pitfall. This would jive with the notion that a sure fire way to
> impede
> > self-organization is to mess with it (that is, control it).
> >
> > Picking up on what Rob just wrote
> > "By definition self organisation occurs despite any efforts to make it
> > happen."
> > I suspect that
> > "Self-organisation is hampered by efforts to make it happen."
> >
> > I also wonder if it would be helpful to distinguish between
> > "self-organization" as we observe it everywhere around us (such as
> children
> > self-organizing their game on a playground or a butterfly unfolding from
> a
> > chrysalis or a break-out group in an os-event self-organizing their
> > activities) and the "force of selforganization".
> >
> > Assuming  that the force of selforganzation is behind self-organization
> it
> > might be useful to focus on the "factors" that would support an
> environment
> > in which the force of selforganization can thrive, unfold...
> >
> > One of the stories we have is the development of OST itself. OST was
> > dreamt up originally as a way to organize a conference in a few hours
> > instead of a whole years work (a wonderful gift that was borne out of
> being
> > bored with working hard). After it kept working in various settings with
> a
> > vast minimum of pre-implemented structure, no panels, no speakers, only
> one
> > facilitator... his originator began wondering on why it was working.
> >
> > We know the rest of the story and have payed attention to the 5 or 6 or 7
> > prerequisites that now have been tested in thousands of events which need
> > to be in place for the "force of selforganisation" to do its thing which
> we
> > then perceive as "self-organization".
> >
> > Its simple but not easy.
> > Is not facing that which seduces to twists, adulterations, creating
> > surrogate cocktails...?
> >
> > Greetings from Berlin
> > mmp
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Am 21.06.2019 um 04:04 schrieb Juliane Martina Roell (Structure &
> Process)
> > via OSList:
> >
> > Jake Yeager via OSList schrieb am 20.06.19 um 19:31:
> >
> > Hey everyone,
> >
> > Does anyone know of organizations that attempted to implement
> > self-organization but failed? If so, do you know some of the factors that
> > contributed to the failure? We hear about the successes, like Semco and
> > AES, but rarely about the failures. I'd like to understand better what
> the
> > pitfalls are and also what the success rate is.
> >
> > Hi Jake,
> > what do you mean by "implement self-organization"?
> > How would one go about doing that?
> > Best Regards,
> > Juliane.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Michael M Pannwitz
> > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
> > ++49 - 30-772 8000
> > mmpannwitz at gmail.com
> >
> >
> > Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 484 resident Open
> > Space Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 141 countries
> worldwide
> > www.openspaceworldmap.org
> > <
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> >
> >
> > At my publisher you find books and task cards on open space, most in
> > German, some in English, some as ebooks, some multilingual
> > https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Kommunikation
> > <
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> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 09:41:20 -0400
> From: David Osborne <dosborne at change-fusion.com>
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> Subject: Re: [OSList] Orgs that Failed to Implement Self-Organization?
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> PS - I love the real case examples many thanks.
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> David
>
>
> *David R. Osborne*
> Organization and Leadership Development
>
> 6402 Arlington Blvd., Suite 1120, Falls Church, VA 22042
> 703-939-1777   |   dosborne at change-fusion.com   |   change-fusion.com
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 6:39 AM Daniel Mezick via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> > <smiley face here>
> >
> > I'm glad you find it useful, interesting etc.
> >
> > Every day worldwide, "Agile" is forced. All in the name of
> self-management
> > and so on. You can imagine the results, and the harm to people. Here is
> one
> > of the stories:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> https://web.archive.org/web/20190313181520/https://thetech.com/2016/02/11/istfeature-v136-n3
> >
> > IS&T is attempting to apply the agile approach to the entire
> organization.
> > ?Agile organizations,? Charles wrote in a February email, ?need empowered
> > leadership at the individual and team levels ? that means less management
> > and more fluidity.?
> >
> > The sweeping transformation that is currently underway at MIT?s
> > Information Systems and Technology office is one that is unprecedented in
> > its scope and backlash from employees.
> > This has resulted in roughly 20 percent of nearly 300 staff members
> > leaving since February, instead of the average 8 or 9 percent annual
> > turnover. The reorganization stands out in several ways. Many longtime
> > employees have resigned ? by the estimate of a former employee, Laura
> > Baldwin ?89, more than 700 years of experience have been lost from people
> > parting ways. A number of those employees have been MIT alumni.
> >
> >
> > See also: https://twitter.com/DanielMezick/status/880124938467913729
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *Daniel Mezick*
> > Phone: 203 915 7248
> > Bio & Contact Info: http://www.DanielMezick.com
> > Latest Book: http://www.InvitingLeadership.com
> >
> > Business Agility Leadership event May 14-15 Boston:
> > The Open Leadership Symposium <https://openleadershipnetwork.com>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jun 21, 2019, at 6:28 AM, Royle, Karl via OSList <
> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for sharing this,  having just read holocracy... it?s good to know
> > that these things always need adaption to cultures...
> >
> > The point about power and mandating is also very interesting.
> >
> > Best Karl
> >
> > Sent by iPhone
> > Karl Royle
> > Head of Enterprise and Commercial Development
> >
> > Faculty of Education Health and Wellbeing
> > University of Wolverhampton
> > 01902323006
> > 07815416698
> > @karlroyle. On Twitter
> > Karlr61 Skype
> >
> >
> > On 21 Jun 2019, at 11:09, Daniel Mezick via OSList <
> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jake,
> >
> > There are many failed examples of "mandated self organization." You can
> > imagine the success rate of such an approach.
> >
> > Now, the Agile industry is pretty good at selling this "mandated self
> > organization" stuff. But I'm getting ahead of the story...
> >
> > Most of the failure stories do not make it out into the wild. But the
> > insiders do whisper about them. To friends and colleagues. In dinner
> > discussions at conferences. And so on...
> >
> >
> >
> > The Mandate of Holacracy at Zappos
> >
> >
> > In 2013-14, Zappos mandated a way of working called 'holacracy.' The idea
> > was, I think, to encourage more self-organization. More good outcomes.
> I'm
> > sure the intentions were good at the time...
> >
> > But there were big problems by late 2013.
> >
> > By 2014, the "mandate of holacracy for self-organization at Zappos" was
> in
> > big trouble, even as the press was celebrating 'holacracy' at Zappos as
> the
> > future of work, the shining example, the path forward in the new world of
> > work.
> >
> > But there were big problems. Lots of resistance. I heard the whispers
> > through a friend on the inside, a person with access to the CEO.
> >
> > Through that friend, I quietly offered some help (I had some consulting
> > work inside the org previously,) and in Las Vegas a lunch meeting was
> > arranged with the CEO.
> >
> > I flew out there. I showed up with a file folder with some Open Space
> > stuff inside. We ate tacos.
> >
> > I talked to Tony, the CEO, and briefly explained OST. I took a few
> > questions. We had a nice lunch.
> >
> > The result was that, a couple weeks later, Tony did experiment with a
> very
> > brief OST of 2 hours at a Zappos all-hands meeting. No burning issue. No
> > proceedings, etc.
> >
> > That was it. No further follow-through. No follow-up calls.
> >
> > I did not chase the CEO. But after a few more weeks of silence, I did
> > write this:
> >
> > The Mandate of Holacracy at Zappos
> > https://newtechusa.net/the-mandate-of-holacracy-at-zappos/
> > <
> https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1heGTV-0007wu-4A&i=57e1b682&c=GYYsWhj9GJMaxmCqStUBHCeOk0YwbS4A95x4vnAwlwIMRV9ZViFViiQp1QwI8uPOk1gU313N8INHpP6x4UJxNC0OaGwZtLlZS5Diz867-g1Q3VVO9oMnaTaDdPIwkIXHjcSaTrkjgYBnO5mgMWRsOgIo_aHBCQTa71-UOn7EDmhPckmzNQzcniOv_h-shBce0tsSk6YAdXHYSnQqKq5su85GqZKGhnIYI_6M-Ua56uoP9vndQg-3uuB5bTPRRzgafvSvbuPRHmlm44rYuc4sCQ
> >
> > In case you have not heard, Zappos is rolling out a defined authority
> > distribution scheme called ?holacracy?.
> >
> > The way everyone works will change. Every single employee will be forced
> > to comply with a set of rules they had no part in creating.
> >
> > At the time, the press was celebrating 'holacracy' at Zappos as the
> future
> > of work, the shining example, the path forward in the new world of work.
> >
> > Everyone in the press was applauding and citing what was going on at
> > Zappos as "the future of work."
> >
> > But there was A LOT of resistance to the mandate of 'holacracy' inside
> > Zappos. All of that resistance might have been easily processed
> positively
> > in Open Space, but the CEO did not select that option.
> >
> > Instead, he issued this ultimatum:
> >
> > ADOPT HOLACRACY OR LEAVE:
> >
> >
> https://www.fastcompany.com/3044417/zappos-ceo-tony-hsieh-adopt-holacracy-or-leave
> > <
> https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1heGTV-0007wu-4A&i=57e1b682&c=LoiBhtu6xuWxrzd9L2TJ-PnDM31W_wp5CIV_Afj9-3UUSEcdpGWinDX2Yh-NqcXF4i2OJxHKEWCJEbhWSh_eHGj4hqHNdgBLAGaDtyCME6xZwYhD2ZJ3P_a4UnOiaQnfBehNRSGfR6S6G20dH55ZKxT19mHHhKwrbRJbQiRrpGj8pKS7APLCGcOlMAOChkfbRS8pTOebrjt_wG2fXW7NFszScuRQUuy9EjTSGmak_MkUp7X1i_HIJuFM4ZMXNTeiBDfjVsQkf_5RnhdiMIE7zG__KBWAL5hbolDId3MDdGI
> >
> > Last week, Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh sent his employees the following memo,
> > provided to *Fast Company* by Zappos. In it he offers his employees an
> > ultimatum: adopt Holacracy or quit.
> >
> >
> > Moral of Story: "Mandating self-organization" is misguided at best, and
> > profoundly harmful and deeply disrespectful to people at worst. And:
> >
> > 1. All systems are open
> >
> > 2. All systems are self-organizing
> >
> > 3. Open Space can help
> >
> >
> >  I hope this story helps you Jake. This Google search leads to these
> > listings if you want to examine the story in detail:
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=FqsMXdKZIoLktQXAzoOQBQ&q=holacracy+failure
> > <
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <Screen Shot 2019-06-21 at 5.53.32 AM.png>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *Daniel Mezick*
> > Phone: 203 915 7248
> > Bio & Contact Info: http://www.DanielMezick.com
> > <
> https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1heGTV-0007wu-4A&i=57e1b682&c=mFwP3ACWrQyggV0Y10oZbsYnpXJM5sG3y5ngA3guWUlLCY6ZO8psqJwpkz139XjYIriPibkZrcPWnIUM8jF-dMzd1KF6rpuvC9CQZrktUJ3MNdCP15PZrvj8diGTu7mEih8M3I8qe2H92-7vthxOzPr6okNTRE22wTmT2fDOCUayPYebW_3GSLXumvvBmjLooFwnnreLjPurhBjVjv-S-xm7z462Ttp_IHftoVw_pFE
> >
> > Latest Book: http://www.InvitingLeadership.com
> > <
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> >
> >
> > Business Agility Leadership event May 14-15 Boston:
> > The Open Leadership Symposium
> > <
> https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1heGTV-0007wu-4A&i=57e1b682&c=HSMak-vtpan_bw4DDDvJU4M29xuqI49gjLCAILeigNXjG6M2x95I7TWj9Dyjbg1IM4EGT0QMLrmAFJ06vghERBsKjWUNmsveyF4e7WTuIVhPP8Nf5GP7yyX9B2SHpuTquxGHzcspUnTNRhhlyJyeQSYGADNK2_fbQq5_JWy_5Ob0WfyiOOVxGB4XWAqqRMqCTnUxcs_7hToiovcBjCPsZ1bEH7Exmdh99wIC3JuDyGY
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jun 21, 2019, at 3:53 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <
> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Jake and you others,
> >
> > I am intriguing myself with your quest for pitfalls in regard to
> > "implement self-organization".
> > If it is assumed that "self-organization" is inherent in all groups,
> > organisations, systems and in all processes on this planet and in the
> > universe and has been since the Big Bang, it would not be necessary to
> > "implement self-organization".
> > In fact, attempting to "implement self-organization" could in itself be
> > the pitfall. This would jive with the notion that a sure fire way to
> impede
> > self-organization is to mess with it (that is, control it).
> >
> > Picking up on what Rob just wrote
> > "By definition self organisation occurs despite any efforts to make it
> > happen."
> > I suspect that
> > "Self-organisation is hampered by efforts to make it happen."
> >
> > I also wonder if it would be helpful to distinguish between
> > "self-organization" as we observe it everywhere around us (such as
> children
> > self-organizing their game on a playground or a butterfly unfolding from
> a
> > chrysalis or a break-out group in an os-event self-organizing their
> > activities) and the "force of selforganization".
> >
> > Assuming  that the force of selforganzation is behind self-organization
> it
> > might be useful to focus on the "factors" that would support an
> environment
> > in which the force of selforganization can thrive, unfold...
> >
> > One of the stories we have is the development of OST itself. OST was
> > dreamt up originally as a way to organize a conference in a few hours
> > instead of a whole years work (a wonderful gift that was borne out of
> being
> > bored with working hard). After it kept working in various settings with
> a
> > vast minimum of pre-implemented structure, no panels, no speakers, only
> one
> > facilitator... his originator began wondering on why it was working.
> >
> > We know the rest of the story and have payed attention to the 5 or 6 or 7
> > prerequisites that now have been tested in thousands of events which need
> > to be in place for the "force of selforganisation" to do its thing which
> we
> > then perceive as "self-organization".
> >
> > Its simple but not easy.
> > Is not facing that which seduces to twists, adulterations, creating
> > surrogate cocktails...?
> >
> > Greetings from Berlin
> > mmp
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Am 21.06.2019 um 04:04 schrieb Juliane Martina Roell (Structure &
> Process)
> > via OSList:
> >
> > Jake Yeager via OSList schrieb am 20.06.19 um 19:31:
> >
> > Hey everyone,
> >
> > Does anyone know of organizations that attempted to implement
> > self-organization but failed? If so, do you know some of the factors that
> > contributed to the failure? We hear about the successes, like Semco and
> > AES, but rarely about the failures. I'd like to understand better what
> the
> > pitfalls are and also what the success rate is.
> >
> > Hi Jake,
> > what do you mean by "implement self-organization"?
> > How would one go about doing that?
> > Best Regards,
> > Juliane.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Michael M Pannwitz
> > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
> > ++49 - 30-772 8000
> > mmpannwitz at gmail.com
> >
> >
> > Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 484 resident Open
> > Space Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 141 countries
> worldwide
> > www.openspaceworldmap.org
> > <
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> >
> >
> > At my publisher you find books and task cards on open space, most in
> > German, some in English, some as ebooks, some multilingual
> > https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Kommunikation
> > <
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