[OSList] Fwd: Re: number of breakout groups

Michael M Pannwitz mmpannwitz at gmail.com
Thu Jun 6 08:18:25 PDT 2019


Dear Christian,

yes, it depends on many factors. You identified a number of them.
For those really interested in this aspect and passionate about 
developing a tool, have a look at the list so far:

1--- number of participants
2--- length of event
3--- number of "planned" opportunities (evening announcements, morning news
4--- degree of urgency (decision time of yesterday)
5--- degree of complexity of the challenge
6--- degree of confusion (degree of unknowing in regard to answers)
7--- level of potential conflict
8--- level of diversity among the participants
9--- age of  participants
10-- productive framework (daylight, fresh and healthy food, fresh air, 
a wonderful view into the surroundings, participants staying on-site 
during the entire event... )
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---
---
Some of these parameters can be arrived at in the registration process 
(1, 8, 9)
Some are part of the design and overall site planning (2, 3, 10)
Some are part of the planning process (going through the prerequisites 
for an OST event in the contact meeting with the sponsor... such as 4, 
5, 6, 7, 8).

I know how to do a graph with 2 parameters... but there must be ways 
with more parameters. A computer program, an algorithm. This might be 
something an agile-ost-worker could work out.

A few times I have also seen participants that would not post issues and 
would not go to breakout session but just hung around and did the 
butterfly. Dont we think that, systemically speaking, butterflies are 
important "centers of inactivity" providing spaces for the unexpected. 
Ok, how would that fit into a "formula"?

Greetings from Berlin
mmp





Am 06.06.2019 um 12:02 schrieb Dr. Christian Kemper:
> Am 06.06.19 um 01:10 schrieb Michael M Pannwitz via OSList:
> 
>> I wonder what additional parameters other than than number of 
>> participants and length of the event would have to be considered for a 
>> more reliable tool to predict the number of issues to be expected at 
>> an OST event.
> 
> Hihi, Michael:-)
> 
> As far as I experienced there is no rule or reliable answer to this 
> question - it depends on so many factors (e.g. how urgent is the os, how 
> complex the question, how unknown the answer, how conflictual the 
> problem, how diverse the group and so on).
> 
> But one thing I was able to see so often is that the younger the people 
> are the more issues they raise. In open spaces with children there are 
> sometimes as many issues as people participate, the maximum I saw was 
> 1.3 issues per person (in a 1.5 day os with around 100 people).
> 
> I also remember one girl who raised eleven issues in a three-day open 
> space with six starting times.
> 
> And i remember the boy, who negotiated his issue in the same open space 
> over the whole time, again and again and supplemented and expanded it 
> and finally probably negotiated with all 250 people right up to the 
> action planning. It was: "Cocoa instead of milk in the breaks". At the 
> next meeting he reported and justified with a broad chest and proudly 
> that it was not implemented after he had gone through all school 
> instances (and democracy learned from it).
> 
> Sunny greetings to all of you!
> 
> Christian
> 

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Space Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 141 countries worldwide
www.openspaceworldmap.org

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German, some in English, some as ebooks, some multilingual
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