[OSList] Ridiculous quote from David Orr ..."The plain fact is that the planet does not need more successful people"

Mark Carmel markacarmel at gmail.com
Thu Dec 5 08:40:38 PST 2019


Koos,

Do you remember this quote?
  "It Depends on what the definition of is, is" - a quote from President
Bill Clinton during his impeachment



On Thu, Dec 5, 2019, 9:20 AM Koos de Heer <koos at auryn.nl> wrote:

> It depends on your definition of success.
>
>
>
> If you define success as earning a lot of money and using that money to
> deplete a large part of the earth’s resources, then I can agree with the
> statement that we don’t need that.
>
>
>
> If you define success as having a large surviving offspring (and thus
> spreading your genes in larger numbers than others, the Darwinian
> definition of success) then I can agree with the statement that we don’t
> need that because there are already too many of us on this planet.
>
>
>
> If you define success as realizing your dreams and if your dreams are
> about a sustainable lifestyle for all, then I think we do need that.
>
>
>
> So it is all a matter of definitions.
>
>
>
> Koos
>
>
>
>
>
> *Van:* OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> *Namens *Mark
> Carmel via OSList
> *Verzonden:* donderdag 5 december 2019 16:57
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> *CC:* Mark Carmel <markacarmel at gmail.com>
> *Onderwerp:* [OSList] Ridiculous quote from David Orr ..."The plain fact
> is that the planet does not need more successful people"
>
>
>
> The definition of success is:
>
>  The Accomplishment of an aim or purpose.
>
>
>
> What IS Open Space Technology if not to inspire participants into action
> to pursue their passion to accomplish their aims? Their purpose? To become
> successful in their life?
>
>
>
> The notion that we should stamp out successful people is idiotic given the
> sheer numbers - billions of people living without food, water, health care,
> safety, etc.
>
>
>
> There is a dangerous trend now disparaging success.  Anyone who buys into
> this idea to stifle success are part of the problem and should not be an
> OST Facilitator....in my humble opinion.
>
>
>
> "We need more successful people, not less." - Mark Carmel
>
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>    1. Movement/Dance/Somatics/Embodiment - opening space within &
>       without! (Tricia Chirumbole)
>    2. Re: Happy birthday Harrison (Donnan Stoicovy)
>    3. Re: Happy birthday Harrison (Franklin Quijano)
>    4. Re: Happy birthday Harrison (christine koehler)
>    5. Re: Movement/Dance/Somatics/Embodiment - opening space within
>       & without! (christine koehler)
>    6. Re: Movement/Dance/Somatics/Embodiment - opening space within
>       & without! (Marc C. Trudeau)
>    7. Re: Movement/Dance/Somatics/Embodiment - opening space within
>       & without! (Tricia Chirumbole)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 17:06:09 -0500
> From: Tricia Chirumbole <trchirumbole at gmail.com>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>         <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: [OSList] Movement/Dance/Somatics/Embodiment - opening space
>         within & without!
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> Hello all!!
>
> This may be a teeny tiny bit off topic, but I will try to make it relevant!
>
> I am looking for your reflections, insights, advice, referrals, etc. in
> respect to work that I am doing and looking to expand/deepen.
>
> Some of you may know that I have a strong interest in
> movement/dance/embodiment, particularly in application to personal growth,
> healing/transformation, "mindfulness", and the connections & growth
> possible within groups and systems through body wisdom, embodiment
> practice, and collective movement.
>
> The awareness and acceptance of the value of the body as both a source of
> wisdom and an important modality for emotional processing, healing trauma,
> creative expression, group connection, seems to be growing in a number of
> arenas, applications, and communities.
>
> I am currently exploring potential areas for expanding my learning and my
> practice and gathering information and insights, as well as exploring
> within, so that I can choose where to focus my energies.
>
> My questions to this community are: Do you see potential application for
> movement/somatics work within any of the communities or organizations where
> you work?
>
> If so, can you identify where/how you can imagine the integration of body
> and movement into the work that you do or the life/workflow of the people
> with whom you work?
>
> I welcome any and all insights and reflections and referrals! I see this
> work, the way that I approach it, as truly an invitation to open space
> within oneself and within communities through exploration of body and
> movement in a way that is liberated from form, function, expectation, or
> expertise.
>
> I hope that makes sense! I welcome all questions as well! Thank you in
> advance! <3
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 19:42:33 -0500
> From: Donnan Stoicovy <dmstoicovy at gmail.com>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>         <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Happy birthday Harrison
> Message-ID: <EF31A7A1-AD97-427C-B869-7F96D60D37BE at gmail.com>
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> Happy Birthday, Harrison! All the best...
> ***************************************************
> Donnan Stoicovy
> Head of School
> State College Friends School
> 1900 University Drive
> State College, PA 16801
> 814-237-8386
>
> Board of Director - National Association for Professional Development
> Schools (NAPDS)
>
>
>
> Board of Director, ClearWater Conservancy
> Millbrook Marsh Advisory Council
> PA Green and Healthy Schools
> dmstoicovy at gmail.com
> Twitter @dmstoicovy
>
> ?The plain fact is that the planet does not need more successful people.
> But it does desperately need more peacemakers, healers, restorers,
> storytellers, and lovers of every kind. It needs people who live well in
> their places. It needs people of moral courage willing to join the fight to
> make the world more habitable and humane. And these qualities have little
> to do with success as we have defined it.? - David Orr
>
> Please do not print this unless it is essential. If you do, please recycle
> it when finished.
>
> > On Dec 3, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Brendan McKeague via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hope you?ve had a great day of celebration Harrison - remembering your
> arrival on the planet (in a ?clay shape?) at just the right time - funny
> that....
> >
> > Best wishes from the tribe down-under
> >
> > Brendan
> >
> >
> > On 3 Dec 2019, at 10:27 pm, JL Walker via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> wrote:
> >
> >> A big, big hug for you HO. Happy birthday my friend.
> >>
> >> Juan Luis
> >>
> >> De: OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>> En nombre de Harrison Owen via
> OSList
> >> Enviado el: martes, 3 de diciembre de 2019 14:23
> >> Para: 'World wide Open Space Technology email list' <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> >> CC: Harrison Owen <hhowensr at gmail.com <mailto:hhowensr at gmail.com>>
> >> Asunto: Re: [OSList] Happy birthday Harrison
> >>
> >> Made it through another year. Was thinking of moving to Mars? shorter
> yeara! Thanks everybody!!
> >>
> >> ho
> >>
> >> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>] On Behalf Of Peggy Holman via
> OSList
> >> Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 12:40 PM
> >> To: Open Space Listserv
> >> Cc: Peggy Holman
> >> Subject: [OSList] Happy birthday Harrison
> >>
> >> Morning all,
> >>
> >> It?s that time of year. For most of us, it?s holiday season.
> >>
> >> A special day for Open Space Technology is today: Harrison Owen?s
> birthday.
> >>
> >> Harrison: wishing you a great day and a special year. As disruption of
> the status quo becomes louder and more prevalent, your gift to the world
> becomes ever more relevant.
> >>
> >> Thanks for being you.
> >>
> >> Love,
> >> Peggy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> Peggy Holman
> >> Co-founder
> >> Journalism That Matters
> >> 15347 SE 49th Place
> >> Bellevue, WA  98006
> >> 206-948-0432
> >> www.journalismthatmatters.org <http://www.journalismthatmatters.org/>
> >> www.peggyholman.com <http://www.peggyholman.com/>
> >> Twitter: @peggyholman
> >> JTM Twitter: @JTMStream
> >>
> >> Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning?Upheaval into
> Opportunity <http://www.engagingemergence.com/>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 10:17:22 +0800
> From: Franklin Quijano <franklinqjn at yahoo.com>
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>         <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Happy birthday Harrison
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> Happy birthday Harrison! Blessings be unto you.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 3, 2019, at 1:40 AM, Peggy Holman via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >
> > ?Morning all,
> >
> > It?s that time of year. For most of us, it?s holiday season.
> >
> > A special day for Open Space Technology is today: Harrison Owen?s
> birthday.
> >
> > Harrison: wishing you a great day and a special year. As disruption of
> the status quo becomes louder and more prevalent, your gift to the world
> becomes ever more relevant.
> >
> > Thanks for being you.
> >
> > Love,
> > Peggy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > Peggy Holman
> > Co-founder
> > Journalism That Matters
> > 15347 SE 49th Place
> > Bellevue, WA  98006
> > 206-948-0432
> > www.journalismthatmatters.org
> > www.peggyholman.com
> > Twitter: @peggyholman
> > JTM Twitter: @JTMStream
> >
> > Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into
> Opportunity
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 15:27:51 +0100
> From: christine koehler <chris.alice.koehler at gmail.com>
> To: OSLIST <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Happy birthday Harrison
> Message-ID: <0559DD91-9683-4BF0-AC5F-13037E5C03CC at gmail.com>
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>
> Joyeux anniversaire Harrison !
>
> Wishing you all the best for this coming year.
>
> Christine
>
> > Le 4 d?c. 2019 ? 01:42, Donnan Stoicovy via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> a ?crit :
> >
> > Happy Birthday, Harrison! All the best...
> > ***************************************************
> > Donnan Stoicovy
> > Head of School
> > State College Friends School
> > 1900 University Drive
> > State College, PA 16801
> > 814-237-8386
> >
> > Board of Director - National Association for Professional Development
> Schools (NAPDS)
> >
> > <image001.png>
> >
> > Board of Director, ClearWater Conservancy
> > Millbrook Marsh Advisory Council
> > PA Green and Healthy Schools
> > dmstoicovy at gmail.com <mailto:dmstoicovy at gmail.com>
> > Twitter @dmstoicovy
> >
> > ?The plain fact is that the planet does not need more successful people.
> But it does desperately need more peacemakers, healers, restorers,
> storytellers, and lovers of every kind. It needs people who live well in
> their places. It needs people of moral courage willing to join the fight to
> make the world more habitable and humane. And these qualities have little
> to do with success as we have defined it.? - David Orr
> >
> > Please do not print this unless it is essential. If you do, please
> recycle it when finished.
> >
> >> On Dec 3, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Brendan McKeague via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hope you?ve had a great day of celebration Harrison - remembering your
> arrival on the planet (in a ?clay shape?) at just the right time - funny
> that....
> >>
> >> Best wishes from the tribe down-under
> >>
> >> Brendan
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3 Dec 2019, at 10:27 pm, JL Walker via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> A big, big hug for you HO. Happy birthday my friend.
> >>>
> >>> Juan Luis
> >>>
> >>> De: OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>> En nombre de Harrison Owen via
> OSList
> >>> Enviado el: martes, 3 de diciembre de 2019 14:23
> >>> Para: 'World wide Open Space Technology email list' <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> >>> CC: Harrison Owen <hhowensr at gmail.com <mailto:hhowensr at gmail.com>>
> >>> Asunto: Re: [OSList] Happy birthday Harrison
> >>>
> >>> Made it through another year. Was thinking of moving to Mars? shorter
> yeara! Thanks everybody!!
> >>>
> >>> ho
> >>>
> >>> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>] On Behalf Of Peggy Holman via
> OSList
> >>> Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 12:40 PM
> >>> To: Open Space Listserv
> >>> Cc: Peggy Holman
> >>> Subject: [OSList] Happy birthday Harrison
> >>>
> >>> Morning all,
> >>>
> >>> It?s that time of year. For most of us, it?s holiday season.
> >>>
> >>> A special day for Open Space Technology is today: Harrison Owen?s
> birthday.
> >>>
> >>> Harrison: wishing you a great day and a special year. As disruption of
> the status quo becomes louder and more prevalent, your gift to the world
> becomes ever more relevant.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for being you.
> >>>
> >>> Love,
> >>> Peggy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> Peggy Holman
> >>> Co-founder
> >>> Journalism That Matters
> >>> 15347 SE 49th Place
> >>> Bellevue, WA  98006
> >>> 206-948-0432
> >>> www.journalismthatmatters.org <http://www.journalismthatmatters.org/>
> >>> www.peggyholman.com <http://www.peggyholman.com/>
> >>> Twitter: @peggyholman
> >>> JTM Twitter: @JTMStream
> >>>
> >>> Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning?Upheaval into
> Opportunity <http://www.engagingemergence.com/>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> OSList mailing list
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 15:49:02 +0100
> From: christine koehler <chris.alice.koehler at gmail.com>
> To: OSLIST <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Movement/Dance/Somatics/Embodiment - opening
>         space within & without!
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> Hi Tricia
>
> What I see around me is :
> - a lot of interest from individuals for body work in therapy, but very
> few engagement for specific work with body only (so there are less and less
> practitioners also)
> - the development  (more and more accepted)  of group constellation work,
> regarding private topics
> - the slow introduction of constellation work or social presenting work in
> a few professional settings (that are still margins over here)
> to sum up : in my org. work,  I don?t work with pioneers enough to see
> potential applications
>
> all the best
> christine
>
> > Le 3 d?c. 2019 ? 23:06, Tricia Chirumbole via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> a ?crit :
> >
> > Hello all!!
> >
> > This may be a teeny tiny bit off topic, but I will try to make it
> relevant!
> >
> > I am looking for your reflections, insights, advice, referrals, etc. in
> respect to work that I am doing and looking to expand/deepen.
> >
> > Some of you may know that I have a strong interest in
> movement/dance/embodiment, particularly in application to personal growth,
> healing/transformation, "mindfulness", and the connections & growth
> possible within groups and systems through body wisdom, embodiment
> practice, and collective movement.
> >
> > The awareness and acceptance of the value of the body as both a source
> of wisdom and an important modality for emotional processing, healing
> trauma, creative expression, group connection, seems to be growing in a
> number of arenas, applications, and communities.
> >
> > I am currently exploring potential areas for expanding my learning and
> my practice and gathering information and insights, as well as exploring
> within, so that I can choose where to focus my energies.
> >
> > My questions to this community are: Do you see potential application for
> movement/somatics work within any of the communities or organizations where
> you work?
> >
> > If so, can you identify where/how you can imagine the integration of
> body and movement into the work that you do or the life/workflow of the
> people with whom you work?
> >
> > I welcome any and all insights and reflections and referrals! I see this
> work, the way that I approach it, as truly an invitation to open space
> within oneself and within communities through exploration of body and
> movement in a way that is liberated from form, function, expectation, or
> expertise.
> >
> > I hope that makes sense! I welcome all questions as well! Thank you in
> advance! <3
> > _______________________________________________
> > OSList mailing list
> > To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> > To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 16:44:55 +0000
> From: "Marc C. Trudeau" <marctrudeau at alum.wpi.edu>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>         <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Movement/Dance/Somatics/Embodiment - opening
>         space within & without!
> Message-ID: <0F946763-FA96-4B6B-B201-588272CCF117 at alum.wpi.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi, Tricia!
>
> Your query dovetails nicely with something that came up in passing at
> WOSonOS, that we (at that event) tended to view ?Proceedings?
> verbal/written. We had one session captured through Graphic Recording. We
> observed that gently offering alternative means of expression in Open Space
> might be useful, such as having resources in the circle?s center to lying
> about; such as huge boxes of LEGO?, drawing and painting and crafting
> materials, musical instruments. Perhaps an implicit invitation to movement,
> dance, and videoing could be incorporated.
>
> For myself, I incorporate movement a lot in workshops. I overuse
> Constellations, moving to a place to express an opinion or an opinion on a
> range or scale. I?ve begun to leverage LiberatingStructures.com and similar
> to inject movement, such as between tables. Many have observed to me that
> people express things with movement or LEGO? that they?d never express
> verbally, though having done so, they often find the courage to verbally
> explain their movement or other creation.
>
> I encourage you in this exploration; it can only help us all!
>
> Marc
>
> > On Dec 3, 2019, at 5:06 PM, Tricia Chirumbole via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all!!
> >
> > This may be a teeny tiny bit off topic, but I will try to make it
> relevant!
> >
> > I am looking for your reflections, insights, advice, referrals, etc. in
> respect to work that I am doing and looking to expand/deepen.
> >
> > Some of you may know that I have a strong interest in
> movement/dance/embodiment, particularly in application to personal growth,
> healing/transformation, "mindfulness", and the connections & growth
> possible within groups and systems through body wisdom, embodiment
> practice, and collective movement.
> >
> > The awareness and acceptance of the value of the body as both a source
> of wisdom and an important modality for emotional processing, healing
> trauma, creative expression, group connection, seems to be growing in a
> number of arenas, applications, and communities.
> >
> > I am currently exploring potential areas for expanding my learning and
> my practice and gathering information and insights, as well as exploring
> within, so that I can choose where to focus my energies.
> >
> > My questions to this community are: Do you see potential application for
> movement/somatics work within any of the communities or organizations where
> you work?
> >
> > If so, can you identify where/how you can imagine the integration of
> body and movement into the work that you do or the life/workflow of the
> people with whom you work?
> >
> > I welcome any and all insights and reflections and referrals! I see this
> work, the way that I approach it, as truly an invitation to open space
> within oneself and within communities through exploration of body and
> movement in a way that is liberated from form, function, expectation, or
> expertise.
> >
> > I hope that makes sense! I welcome all questions as well! Thank you in
> advance! <3
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> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:53:55 -0500
> From: Tricia Chirumbole <trchirumbole at gmail.com>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
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> Subject: Re: [OSList] Movement/Dance/Somatics/Embodiment - opening
>         space within & without!
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> Yes! thank you so far to Christine and Marc! You both provided very useful
> information and insights!
>
> Christine, what you are saying is confirming my impulse and perhaps true
> desire, which is to incorporate movement and somatics with other elements
> and modalities. I have considered going back to train as a therapist or do
> trauma-informed work, however, I believe I am more called to continue
> developing organization coaching and group/systems work and I think many of
> these embodiment and movement practices can fit quite nicely with other
> elements that may be more dialogic.
>
> And Yes Marc! Thank you for sharing your practices and reflections!
> Honestly I am all about all of the expressive arts and both personally and
> in my work and in my community. I regularly observe both the reticence and
> challenge some people have in stepping in, as well as the liberation and
> varied sort of expression and connection that can result!
>
> This is all very helpful:)
>
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 11:45 AM Marc C. Trudeau via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi, Tricia!
> >
> > Your query dovetails nicely with something that came up in passing at
> > WOSonOS, that we (at that event) tended to view ?Proceedings?
> > verbal/written. We had one session captured through Graphic Recording. We
> > observed that gently offering alternative means of expression in Open
> Space
> > might be useful, such as having resources in the circle?s center to lying
> > about; such as huge boxes of LEGO?, drawing and painting and crafting
> > materials, musical instruments. Perhaps an implicit invitation to
> movement,
> > dance, and videoing could be incorporated.
> >
> > For myself, I incorporate movement a lot in workshops. I overuse
> > Constellations, moving to a place to express an opinion or an opinion on
> a
> > range or scale. I?ve begun to leverage LiberatingStructures.com and
> similar
> > to inject movement, such as between tables. Many have observed to me that
> > people express things with movement or LEGO? that they?d never express
> > verbally, though having done so, they often find the courage to verbally
> > explain their movement or other creation.
> >
> > I encourage you in this exploration; it can only help us all!
> >
> > Marc
> >
> > > On Dec 3, 2019, at 5:06 PM, Tricia Chirumbole via OSList <
> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello all!!
> > >
> > > This may be a teeny tiny bit off topic, but I will try to make it
> > relevant!
> > >
> > > I am looking for your reflections, insights, advice, referrals, etc. in
> > respect to work that I am doing and looking to expand/deepen.
> > >
> > > Some of you may know that I have a strong interest in
> > movement/dance/embodiment, particularly in application to personal
> growth,
> > healing/transformation, "mindfulness", and the connections & growth
> > possible within groups and systems through body wisdom, embodiment
> > practice, and collective movement.
> > >
> > > The awareness and acceptance of the value of the body as both a source
> > of wisdom and an important modality for emotional processing, healing
> > trauma, creative expression, group connection, seems to be growing in a
> > number of arenas, applications, and communities.
> > >
> > > I am currently exploring potential areas for expanding my learning and
> > my practice and gathering information and insights, as well as exploring
> > within, so that I can choose where to focus my energies.
> > >
> > > My questions to this community are: Do you see potential application
> for
> > movement/somatics work within any of the communities or organizations
> where
> > you work?
> > >
> > > If so, can you identify where/how you can imagine the integration of
> > body and movement into the work that you do or the life/workflow of the
> > people with whom you work?
> > >
> > > I welcome any and all insights and reflections and referrals! I see
> this
> > work, the way that I approach it, as truly an invitation to open space
> > within oneself and within communities through exploration of body and
> > movement in a way that is liberated from form, function, expectation, or
> > expertise.
> > >
> > > I hope that makes sense! I welcome all questions as well! Thank you in
> > advance! <3
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > OSList mailing list
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