[OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 100, Issue 23
Mark Carmel
markacarmel at gmail.com
Mon Aug 19 15:07:35 PDT 2019
Thanks Chris. Great approach.
My strong desire for a more formal approach is driven by my belief that it
must be done to ensure Harrison's Legacy is carried out in such a way that
will have met his approval. Because I believe OST is the most Powerful
tool for Peace ever Devined for mere mortals, I believe it is too important
to leave to chance. There is a lot of space invaders trying to take over
the identity of OST..
All your work Chris is to do what? Strengthen organizations? What about
OUR organization? Do I strongly desire a better sense of belonging? And Do
I want an incredibly inspiring mission and vision such as world peace and
understanding, to work on with all my good OST buddies? Heck yeah Chris!
MC
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> 1. Re: Okay...Forget Certification then...How about Co-Creating
> a NEW OST ASSOCIATION? Such as...THE International Association
> for Peace and Human Understanding...? (Chris Corrigan)
> 2. What does holding space involve - with a nudge (Marai Kiele)
> 3. (no subject) (Tricia Chirumbole)
> 4. Re: What does holding space involve - with a nudge
> (Chris Corrigan)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 09:31:12 -0700
> From: Chris Corrigan <chris.corrigan at gmail.com>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Cc: Mark Carmel <markacarmel at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Okay...Forget Certification then...How about
> Co-Creating a NEW OST ASSOCIATION? Such as...THE International
> Association for Peace and Human Understanding...?
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> Whenever I want to know if my work of Hosting an Open Space Technology
> meeting was useful, I give the participants a form that sinplay says
> ?complete the following sentence. As a result of this meeting...?
>
> The only people who should be judging the efficacy of an OST meeting are
> the people who called it in the first place to get their work done. In my
> experience, they are happy if the meeting has helped them.
>
> My work is always directed towards client needs. Some times we do Open
> Space. Sometimes we do it in a way that would drive a ?by the book? person
> crazy. But it?s about the clients. I doubt there is a way my process could
> be formalized in a way that works better for my clients than sitting down
> and listening to their needs.
>
> There is already a network of Open Space Institutes who steward this
> practice. There is an international association of facilitators who can
> join if you want certification.
>
> I find myself constantly wanting to defend this radical openness. Mark,
> what is behind your string desire for something more formal than what we
> already have?
>
> Chris.
>
>
> _____________
> CHRIS CORRIGAN
> www.chriscorrigan.com
>
> > On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:29 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >
> > 1st of all thank you for everyone who gave me feedback on my big idea
> for certification. It was sincerely appreciated. However I can see it was
> something that did not Resonate well.
> >
> > Open space technology has clearly set the standard for the facilitation
> of peace and human understanding. It is such a powerful and simple tool but
> highly complex. As Harrison says.. chaos plows the fields of the mind so
> that new ideas can grow... I think there is ample chaos for us to tackle
> right now.
> >
> > I think it is highly important for the leadership of our open space
> world to make a decision now while we still have Harrison among us as a
> living spirit. Because we have already set the standards why not cement the
> standards and turn it into an everlasting association that could be
> organized to deliver training, etc. To advance the mission of human peace
> and understanding in a more organized way?
> >
> > If you want to be a beautician or a mechanic or a rocket scientist or a
> city manager there are associations for that .
> >
> > Why not an association for open space technology practitioners to define
> the standards, the ethics, code of conduct, the way that Harrison has
> already articulated them, but to formalize them and help us get organized
> and stay organized until we get the job done?
> >
> > Respectfully submitted,
> > Mark Carmel
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 18:59:56 +0200
> From: Marai Kiele <genuine-contact at joyful-together.com>
> To: ost list international <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: [OSList] What does holding space involve - with a nudge
> Message-ID: <D6391953-7FB0-456B-8640-A98AF3415454 at joyful-together.com>
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>
> Greetings,
>
> I open up a new thread and bring over here what was written before in two
> other emails:
>
> Harrison Owen: Holding Space involves being ?totally present and
> absolutely invisible?
>
> Paul Levy: Holding Space involves being gently present,
> respectfully absent and conveniently and softly unnoticed.
>
> I appreciate both descriptions and find them helpful and inspiring for me
> to (once again) wonder:
>
> What does holding space involve?
> for me?
> for you?
>
> I invite an exploration of this question further down.
> With a little nudge into a new direction.
>
> Before?
>
>
> ***
>
>
> ?a side note on conversations on this list:
>
> Part of my personal ?Practice of Peace? (which is the name of the first
> book by Harrison I read and the one that impacted me the most) involves
> having as little ?who is right -who is wrong? conversations as possible. My
> preference is exploring, sharing, co-creating. I seek to contribute to that
> by the language I use.
>
> Many summers ago, I learned about Percept Language <
> https://liveconscious.com/about/respeak/>. Which I understand as a way of
> speaking that acknowledges how we create our reality, moment to moment. I
> imagine that we all perceive differently, and I actually cannot say how
> something ?is? but just how it is ?for me?. (For those interested in
> exploring this take on language, also check out E-Prime <
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Prime>.)
>
> Speaking not in ?this is how it IS? but in ?this is what I PERCEIVE? is so
> unusual in our cultural?hardly anyone does it. I consciously practice this
> habit all the time, since 15 years, and I stumble daily. Yet I make myself
> hopeful with acknowledging my progress!
>
> The setup of OST doesn?t include ?who is right - who is wrong?" Instead
> OST invites people to post all the topics that are uniquely meaningful to
> them. Those which got stirred up in the context of an overall theme.
>
> If I had it my way ;-) conversations on this list reflect that spirit of
> diversity and non-judgement. Of acknowledging how we all perceive through
> our individual lenses.
>
>
> ***
>
>
> Back to my invitation:
>
> This topic has been explored on this list before. Many times. I know.
> So to make it fresh, I wanna give it two nudges:
>
> * What does holding space involve... for me personally?
>
> Let?s share in any way that suits us, be it words, poetic, via
> music, painting or?
> And see what wildly colourful picture we can co-create!
> I?ll also contemplate on this anew. Space is open... for you! :-)
>
> * Do I make a difference between holding space for an OST as a
> 1-time-event (like an annual conference)
> compared to an OST as part of a conscious organisational
> transformation?
> If so, in which way?
>
> I imagine the latter can be of special interest to all who are
> into organisational transformation.
>
> ***
>
> And before I close, here is an additional invitation for to those who
>
> - think globally
> - see themselves as leaders of some kind
> - and appreciate a space for emergence:
>
> The Global Oasis for Emerging Leaders is coming up: August 26 / Sept 24 /
> Oct 9...
> To whomever that is interesting, check it out here <
> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/global-oasis-for-emerging-leaders-tickets-58880372780
> >
>
> Greetings,
> Marai
>
> Joyful Together
> Liberating Joy at Work
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> www.about.me <http://about.me/maraikiele>
>
> Virtual: Join the monthly
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> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 12:18:28 -0700
> From: Chris Corrigan <chris.corrigan at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [OSList] What does holding space involve - with a nudge
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> I?ll offer my thoughts on this question through this link:
>
> http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/the-tao-of-holding-space/
>
> There you will find links to the Tao of Holding Space in English and
> Chinese.
>
> Chris
>
> > On Aug 19, 2019, at 9:59 AM, Marai Kiele via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I open up a new thread and bring over here what was written before in
> two other emails:
> >
> > Harrison Owen: Holding Space involves being ?totally present and
> absolutely invisible?
> >
> > Paul Levy: Holding Space involves being gently present,
> respectfully absent and conveniently and softly unnoticed.
> >
> > I appreciate both descriptions and find them helpful and inspiring for
> me to (once again) wonder:
> >
> > What does holding space involve?
> > for me?
> > for you?
> >
> > I invite an exploration of this question further down.
> > With a little nudge into a new direction.
> >
> > Before?
> >
> >
> > ***
> >
> >
> > ?a side note on conversations on this list:
> >
> > Part of my personal ?Practice of Peace? (which is the name of the first
> book by Harrison I read and the one that impacted me the most) involves
> having as little ?who is right -who is wrong? conversations as possible. My
> preference is exploring, sharing, co-creating. I seek to contribute to that
> by the language I use.
> >
> > Many summers ago, I learned about Percept Language <
> https://liveconscious.com/about/respeak/>. Which I understand as a way of
> speaking that acknowledges how we create our reality, moment to moment. I
> imagine that we all perceive differently, and I actually cannot say how
> something ?is? but just how it is ?for me?. (For those interested in
> exploring this take on language, also check out E-Prime <
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Prime>.)
> >
> > Speaking not in ?this is how it IS? but in ?this is what I PERCEIVE? is
> so unusual in our cultural?hardly anyone does it. I consciously practice
> this habit all the time, since 15 years, and I stumble daily. Yet I make
> myself hopeful with acknowledging my progress!
> >
> > The setup of OST doesn?t include ?who is right - who is wrong?" Instead
> OST invites people to post all the topics that are uniquely meaningful to
> them. Those which got stirred up in the context of an overall theme.
> >
> > If I had it my way ;-) conversations on this list reflect that spirit of
> diversity and non-judgement. Of acknowledging how we all perceive through
> our individual lenses.
> >
> >
> > ***
> >
> >
> > Back to my invitation:
> >
> > This topic has been explored on this list before. Many times. I know.
> > So to make it fresh, I wanna give it two nudges:
> >
> > * What does holding space involve... for me personally?
> >
> > Let?s share in any way that suits us, be it words, poetic, via
> music, painting or?
> > And see what wildly colourful picture we can co-create!
> > I?ll also contemplate on this anew. Space is open... for you! :-)
> >
> > * Do I make a difference between holding space for an OST as a
> 1-time-event (like an annual conference)
> > compared to an OST as part of a conscious organisational
> transformation?
> > If so, in which way?
> >
> > I imagine the latter can be of special interest to all who are
> into organisational transformation.
> >
> > ***
> >
> > And before I close, here is an additional invitation for to those who
> >
> > - think globally
> > - see themselves as leaders of some kind
> > - and appreciate a space for emergence:
> >
> > The Global Oasis for Emerging Leaders is coming up: August 26 / Sept 24
> / Oct 9...
> > To whomever that is interesting, check it out here <
> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/global-oasis-for-emerging-leaders-tickets-58880372780
> >
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Marai
> >
> > Joyful Together
> > Liberating Joy at Work
> > phone: +49 171-810 7161
> > www.about.me <http://about.me/maraikiele>
> >
> > Virtual: Join the monthly
> > Global Oasis for Emerging Leaders <
> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/global-oasis-for-emerging-leaders-tickets-58880372780
> >
> > In person: Join the OLS in Berlin, Nov 18 - 20, 2019
> > Open Leadership Symposium Berlin <
> https://openleadershipnetwork.com/events/2019-berlin/>
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