[OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 100, Issue 17

Robin Muretisch, Facilitative Insights, LLC robin at facinsights.com
Mon Aug 19 08:21:19 PDT 2019


How about this for consideration ...  (and perhaps someone already has said similar that I’m not aware of)

Not that it’s the same situation, but may be a springboard ... whenever a content creator requests that a user give a commons attribution (rather than copyright), that content owner generally requests standard verbiage to indicate where the material came from.  That gives credence and attribution to the material.

Going on that concept, could Open Space employ standard language to be used whenever OS is used ... whenever OS facilitators make proposals, work with clients, write blogs, etc.  For example, the standard language could say something like:  “Committed to employing the principles of Open Space Technology as described in Harrison Owen’s OST: A User’s Guide”.  This standard language would be instead of a formal certification (which has pros/cons and never consensus as to approach).  This standard language would indicate that the OS facilitator is committed to using Open Space as designed (not some semblance of OS that’s really not OS).

Could it be as simple as that?


Regards,
Robin

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Heated and fascinating conversation for sure!

PRO certification.
I want to have a system of referrals that tells me that doctor such-and-such, whom I never met, can be trusted with her skills. the fact that she has MD in front of her name tells me she went to attend a medical doctor degree, has years of studies under her belt, and can prescribe me pills. I would prefer her advice than that of a "google parent". of course.

AGAINST certification.
In many realms that are more akin to craftsmanship than to a physics degree, each and every certification I can recall has gone through the process of being gamed, diluted in its content, and transformed into a ponzi scheme of sorts.

And again, it depends on contexts and fields of work. MSc's PHD's, MDs tell me something important that I tend to trust most of the times. I have never check a plumber's CV or certificates. Word of mouth and my brother's recommending him performs that exact same function.

What parts of our work are more akin to a PhD researcher? What part of our work are more akin to that of an artisan? (by the way I deeply value academia)

peace

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this
      conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc. WHY JESUS
      SHOULD HAVE set certification criteria... (Ron Quartel)
   2. Re: Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this
      conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc.
      (Tonnie van der Zouwen)


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I have been part of the Agile movement from early on - 2002.

Agile felt different before and after certifications crept in. In
my opinion, Agile went in a direction different to what it started out from
and I wonder how much certification played into that.

I would rather OST remained without certification.

Ron Quartel


On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 3:28 AM Royle, Karl via OSList <
oslist at lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:

> Mark, have you read reinventing organisations by Laloux?
>
>
>
> Bosslessness   or Bosslessly   new words for a new age coined by my
> colleague and collaborator Jasmina Nikolic (that?s where I first heard the
> term).
>
>
>
> Vison mission?.etc can translate to purpose? or it can emerge from
> conversation.. human agency and agency freedom.. there?s the thing ?
>
>
>
> K
>
> *From: *OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>> on behalf of Mark
> Carmel via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> *Reply to: *World wide Open Space Technology email list <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 14 August 2019 at 18:21
> *To: *Chris Corrigan <chris.corrigan at gmail.com<mailto:chris.corrigan at gmail.com>>
> *Cc: *Mark Carmel <markacarmel at gmail.com<mailto:markacarmel at gmail.com>>, World wide Open Space
> Technology email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> *Subject: *[OSList] Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this
> conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc. WHY JESUS SHOULD HAVE
> set certification criteria...
>
>
>
> Chris Corrigan thank you . You just hit the nail on the head giving fodder
> the argument FOR certification.  You're right Jesus did not certify
> practitioners. He left it to human nature. Then women were banned so the
> men could continue to control the women (and children). Jesus did set the
> Strategy with his disciples: What to do.  But did not set the Tactics: How
> to do it. Every good strategic plan has strategies AND  tactics to
> implement strategies, right...  What IF Jesus certified
> practitioners...would he have banned women, etc.... Had Jesus set the
> implementation tactical guidelines then perhaps it would not have become so
> duplicitous.  Jesus is the best example of a person being crucified for
> honesty in speaking out about what he saw as right and wrong in the empire.
> . Harrison Owen thank you for giving us our Bible...and religion.
>
> Godspeed to ALL in implementing it.
>
> Mark Carmel
>
> MC the MC - Global Guru of Peace and Human Understanding - Desciple and
> Friend of the GREAT LEADER Harrison Owen...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019, 10:05 AM Chris Corrigan <chris.corrigan at gmail.com<mailto:chris.corrigan at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> You do realize that Jesus never certified practitioners of Christianity,
> right? And that subsequent attempts to do so basically created a toxic
> blending of Church and Empire that contributed to mass amounts of suffering
> through incredibly toxic and psychopathic uses of power and control for
> most of the last 1700 years?
>
>
>
> And I say that as a Christian who works with churches.
>
>
>
> Mark, just open space.  That?s what the world wants more of. It does not
> want or need more  people running around saying they are certified to open
> space.  It truly doesn?t care. Your credentials mean nothing if you aren?t
> actually opening space.  And if you are opening space, no one will care
> what your credentials are.  The best OST meetings I?ve ever been a part of
> were facilitated by people who had never done them before.  They cared
> about the participants, they took care to follow the instructions, they
> took nothing for granted, and they learned a lot about themselves and
> others.  Some of these people were 14 years old.
>
>
>
> Coincidently, some of these people are also the best Christians I have
> ever met, too, for the same reasons.
>
>
>
> Just do the work and share your learning and get better at it. That?s how
> I learned, that?s how I support others and that?s my invitation to you.
> Resist the devilish temptation to build an empire.
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 14, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>
>
>
> Fascinating conversation. This is exactly why we need a certification-like
> program and an organizational structure for the future if we want to train
> people in the finer points of sustaining open space interventions over time
> as Chris has done. There is a lot more to it than just throwing out an
> invitation and opening up the market place. It is interesting to me that
> from the most seasoned open space masters the idea was instantly shot down,
> saying...we discussed that already... Now that is not what an open space
> facilitator normally does right? Shoot down other people's ideas. The world
> has evolved into one that respects credentials. Interestingly the ones who
> spoke the strongest against certification have already given themselves
> nice fancy titles. Which is wonderful.  Because credentials really do
> matter. Right now open space facilitators must give themself their own
> title and otherwise have no backing whatsoever to lend credibility to their
> self given titles. When you talk about overcoming the resistance of
> executives and with the retaliation nation nature of things now (look at
> Hong Kong) it makes sense to put some structure to the educational
> credentialing of OSTsters from apprentice  to Master to mentor.  In terms
> of VISION and MISSION and VALUES and STRATEGY, why is it that we
> facilitators want to apply that same organizational structure for ALL other
> organizations but resist doing the same for OUR work, to create OUR
> organization... What IS our vision...to hope the world magically organizes
> around OST... or to make it happen through a viable 1,000 year vision.  In
> his great book, Leadership Is,  Harrison is spot on to define OST as the
> ONE way for leaders to be a caretaker of the Spirit.  We must not be naive
> to believe that leaders will not crush the Spirit once it emerges in Open
> Space. This requires highly advanced training to be able to navigate the
> process over decades of implementation.  ALL great decisions require great
> leadership. If OST ever gets an organization, I hope this idea will be
> considered by its leaders or of course someone else will do it or it will
> not be done. In some ways, or all ways, Harrison has created a new religion
> of Spirit and I hope that an organizational structure WILL be created kinda
> like that other dude who started out with 12 disciples.
>
> Peace,
>
> Mark Carmel
>
>
>
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>    2. Re: OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning? (Harrison Owen)
>    3. Re: OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning? (Peggy Holman)
>    4. Re: OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning? (Jake Yeager)
>    5. Open Space Hangout! Tues Aug 13, 12 PM EDT! (Tony Budak)
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> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:25:41 -0400
> From: Chris Kloth <chris.kloth at got2change.com<mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com>>
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> Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the middle of
> a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk) that is
> pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
>
> That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall triggered a
> powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we were to
> start a very resistant top executive made it clear to me that he
> thought this approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also made it
> clear that he was sure labor issues over wages and other workplace
> issues would probably come up and that there was no way these could be
> addressed in such a setting.
>
> I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that labor issues
> would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and
> requested that he trust me that it would be okay. I also asked him to
> listen to the workers talk and resist taking charge of the subject.
>
> No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first round
> and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at me big
> time. I will admit I was nervous.
>
> The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of frustration, 30
> minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the best jobs n
> the valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the end of the
> second round the company president faxed from the other site that
> their ideas were all valuable and could be implemented!
>
> The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement, and optimism.
>
> --
> Shalom,
>
> Chris Kloth
> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> 254 South Merkle Road
> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> ph 614-239-1336
> fax 614-237-2347
> www.got2change.com<http://www.got2change.com>
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>
> Think globally. Act locally.
>
>
> Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com<mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>:
>
> > Hey Chris,
> >
> > Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear your
> > experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you mentioned is still
> > active!
> >
> > If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
> >
> >    - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and the non-profit
> >    partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
> >    - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has multiple
> sites.
> >    I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do you recommend
> for
> >    executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
> >
> > Thank you so much Chris!
> >
> > Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share recommendations for
> > executing OS cross-site, please do!
> >
> > All the best,
> > Jake
> > ________________
> >
> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
> > you will be free of problems.
> >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
> <https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1hxwxH-0003Qy-5Z&i=57e1b682&c=vykSqxRtg6yTfGzLVu0cq33gGPmQwy-fn1o8auIfgs8CpDMt0pOqHELRJrf7FiFA__BXlQpgOtKuse3OfMDEHNqsREdih15THhaJ_eJzysGn3P5Ep15wUnsZtERiYOUHnDJLgD1LMdb2XdOgb66yWx9PWISnfXdcsxfLVixscUvo9AZ5QTiVMIJTWNkVTt0Bq32-FZShsC8WwZbvt_3U5lyDmboiyjMKVgAMjWvuJ3U>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth <chris.kloth at got2change.com<mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com>
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a division of
> >> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually 100% of the
> >> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
> >> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the midwest. We had
> >> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to communicate what
> >> was going on at each location each round! By the end of the process
> >> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization
> >> structure.
> >>
> >> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
> >> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing early childhood
> >> care and education to very different types of children, resulting in a
> >> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a plan for the
> >> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is now almost
> >> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the principles of OST.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Shalom,
> >>
> >> Chris Kloth
> >> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> >> 254 South Merkle Road
> >> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> >> ph 614-239-1336
> >> fax 614-237-2347
> >> www.got2change.com<http://www.got2change.com>
> <https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1hxwxH-0003Qy-5Z&i=57e1b682&c=Y0tP391_m4JoU0LgPYlzoSwgFnX1ftHm_JI1jDDtwtUAJP7uGURk3EXK2XhDF1N8AJVX3ry9_3xWDv-B8pxzIIx9ikgvtQOmVMXxcuCJi4dtV9YTL5qZgJ_sKBll9UJuhQ6FUfUWlXyikINz9ftNZqj-OBeLINr1iUOC6DbW16sLMC9-2qJqIRRLJWZJHLQPH6C7k5N_0WVixa29YwAoVqbuC9J4b62b3hwDe02NY7Y>
> >>
> >> Think globally. Act locally.
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>:
> >>
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or vision
> statement
> >> or
> >> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
> >> recommendations?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > Much love as always,
> >> > Jake
> >> >
> >> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in person! :)
> >> > ________________
> >> >
> >> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
> and
> >> > you will be free of problems.
> >> >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
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> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
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> Beautiful! Thank you Chris!!
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> ho
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Chris Kloth via OSList
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> Cc: Chris Kloth; World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning?
>
> Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the middle of
> a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk) that is
> pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
>
> That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall triggered a
> powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we were to
> start a very resistant top executive made it clear to me that he
> thought this approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also made it
> clear that he was sure labor issues over wages and other workplace
> issues would probably come up and that there was no way these could be
> addressed in such a setting.
>
> I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that labor issues
> would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and
> requested that he trust me that it would be okay. I also asked him to
> listen to the workers talk and resist taking charge of the subject.
>
> No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first round
> and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at me big
> time. I will admit I was nervous.
>
> The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of frustration, 30
> minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the best jobs n
> the valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the end of the
> second round the company president faxed from the other site that
> their ideas were all valuable and could be implemented!
>
> The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement, and optimism.
>
> --
> Shalom,
>
> Chris Kloth
> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> 254 South Merkle Road
> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> ph 614-239-1336
> fax 614-237-2347
> www.got2change.com<http://www.got2change.com>
> <https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1hxwxH-0003Qy-5Z&i=57e1b682&c=Y0tP391_m4JoU0LgPYlzoSwgFnX1ftHm_JI1jDDtwtUAJP7uGURk3EXK2XhDF1N8AJVX3ry9_3xWDv-B8pxzIIx9ikgvtQOmVMXxcuCJi4dtV9YTL5qZgJ_sKBll9UJuhQ6FUfUWlXyikINz9ftNZqj-OBeLINr1iUOC6DbW16sLMC9-2qJqIRRLJWZJHLQPH6C7k5N_0WVixa29YwAoVqbuC9J4b62b3hwDe02NY7Y>
>
> Think globally. Act locally.
>
>
> Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com<mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>:
>
> > Hey Chris,
> >
> > Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear your
> > experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you mentioned is still
> > active!
> >
> > If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
> >
> >    - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and the non-profit
> >    partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
> >    - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has multiple
> sites.
> >    I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do you recommend
> for
> >    executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
> >
> > Thank you so much Chris!
> >
> > Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share recommendations for
> > executing OS cross-site, please do!
> >
> > All the best,
> > Jake
> > ________________
> >
> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
> > you will be free of problems.
> >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
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> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth <chris.kloth at got2change.com<mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com>
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a division of
> >> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually 100% of the
> >> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
> >> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the midwest. We had
> >> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to communicate what
> >> was going on at each location each round! By the end of the process
> >> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization
> >> structure.
> >>
> >> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
> >> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing early childhood
> >> care and education to very different types of children, resulting in a
> >> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a plan for the
> >> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is now almost
> >> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the principles of OST.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Shalom,
> >>
> >> Chris Kloth
> >> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> >> 254 South Merkle Road
> >> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> >> ph 614-239-1336
> >> fax 614-237-2347
> >> www.got2change.com<http://www.got2change.com>
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> >>
> >> Think globally. Act locally.
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>:
> >>
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or vision
> statement
> >> or
> >> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
> >> recommendations?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > Much love as always,
> >> > Jake
> >> >
> >> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in person! :)
> >> > ________________
> >> >
> >> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
> and
> >> > you will be free of problems.
> >> >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
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> >
> >> >
> >>
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> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 15:23:21 -0700
> From: Peggy Holman <peggy at peggyholman.com<mailto:peggy at peggyholman.com>>
> To: Open Listserv <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning?
> Message-ID: <433F9A43-8D47-4AF6-9EA7-9621012C2511 at peggyholman.com<mailto:433F9A43-8D47-4AF6-9EA7-9621012C2511 at peggyholman.com>>
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> I?ll add another strategic planning story to the mix. In the 1999, I did a
> project with the Washington State Arts Commission to create a strategic
> plan that was widely embraced by artists and arts organizations all over
> the state. The commission?s continued funding was riding on success.
>
> We hosted 20 Open Space convenings around the state over 6 weeks. The
> first and last were statewide. The rest were 3-hour sessions in towns as
> small as Twisp and cities as large as Seattle. In the end, the arts
> commission created a plan that was not only widely embraced, but two years
> later during an economic downturn, the funding held when other departments
> were cut because of the widespread support.
>
> When we started, the commission members were convinced large and small,
> east and west, rural and urban would all be at war with each other. In
> fact, they found synergies and ways to partner.
>
> A bit more of the story is here:
> http://peggyholman.com/a-conversation-about-the-arts/
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>
> > On Aug 12, 2019, at 2:25 PM, Chris Kloth via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
> >
> > Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the middle of a
> project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk) that is pretty
> consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
> >
> > That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall triggered a
> powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we were to start a
> very resistant top executive made it clear to me that he thought this
> approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also made it clear that he was sure
> labor issues over wages and other workplace issues would probably come up
> and that there was no way these could be addressed in such a setting.
> >
> > I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that labor issues
> would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and requested
> that he trust me that it would be okay. I also asked him to listen to the
> workers talk and resist taking charge of the subject.
> >
> > No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first round and
> was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at me big time. I
> will admit I was nervous.
> >
> > The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of frustration, 30
> minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the best jobs n the
> valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the end of the second
> round the company president faxed from the other site that their ideas were
> all valuable and could be implemented!
> >
> > The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement, and
> optimism.
> >
> > --
> > Shalom,
> >
> > Chris Kloth
> > ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> > 254 South Merkle Road
> > Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> > ph 614-239-1336
> > fax 614-237-2347
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> >
> >
> > Think globally. Act locally.
> >
> >
> > Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com<mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com> <mailto:
> jacob.yeager at gmail.com<mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>>:
> >
> >> Hey Chris,
> >>
> >> Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear your
> >> experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you mentioned is still
> >> active!
> >>
> >> If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
> >>
> >>   - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and the non-profit
> >>   partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
> >>   - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has multiple
> sites.
> >>   I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do you recommend
> for
> >>   executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
> >>
> >> Thank you so much Chris!
> >>
> >> Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share recommendations for
> >> executing OS cross-site, please do!
> >>
> >> All the best,
> >> Jake
> >> ________________
> >>
> >> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
> >> you will be free of problems.
> >> - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth <
> chris.kloth at got2change.com<mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com> <mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com<mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com>>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a division of
> >>> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually 100% of the
> >>> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
> >>> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the midwest. We had
> >>> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to communicate what
> >>> was going on at each location each round! By the end of the process
> >>> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization
> >>> structure.
> >>>
> >>> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
> >>> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing early childhood
> >>> care and education to very different types of children, resulting in a
> >>> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a plan for the
> >>> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is now almost
> >>> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the principles of OST.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Shalom,
> >>>
> >>> Chris Kloth
> >>> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> >>> 254 South Merkle Road
> >>> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> >>> ph 614-239-1336
> >>> fax 614-237-2347
> >>> www.got2change.com<http://www.got2change.com>
> <https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1hxwxH-0003Qy-5Z&i=57e1b682&c=Y0tP391_m4JoU0LgPYlzoSwgFnX1ftHm_JI1jDDtwtUAJP7uGURk3EXK2XhDF1N8AJVX3ry9_3xWDv-B8pxzIIx9ikgvtQOmVMXxcuCJi4dtV9YTL5qZgJ_sKBll9UJuhQ6FUfUWlXyikINz9ftNZqj-OBeLINr1iUOC6DbW16sLMC9-2qJqIRRLJWZJHLQPH6C7k5N_0WVixa29YwAoVqbuC9J4b62b3hwDe02NY7Y>
> >>>
> >>> Think globally. Act locally.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>:
> >>>
> >>> > Hi all,
> >>> >
> >>> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or vision
> statement
> >>> or
> >>> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
> >>> recommendations?
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks!
> >>> >
> >>> > Much love as always,
> >>> > Jake
> >>> >
> >>> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in person! :)
> >>> > ________________
> >>> >
> >>> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
> and
> >>> > you will be free of problems.
> >>> >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
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> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 07:54:31 -0400
> From: Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com<mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>
> Cc: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>         <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning?
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> Thank you everyone for your replies! They are very, very helpful.
>
> I have contracted with an internal client who is interested in using OST.
> His team is cross-site, so these suggestions and experiences are
> invaluable. It really is about experimenting, identifying what works, and
> sharing my experience with others to move the work forward. Oh, and
> trusting the people. :)
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Much love,
> Jake
> ________________
>
> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
> you will be free of problems.
>  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
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>
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 5:25 PM Chris Kloth <chris.kloth at got2change.com<mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the middle of
> > a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk) that is
> > pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
> >
> > That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall triggered a
> > powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we were to
> > start a very resistant top executive made it clear to me that he
> > thought this approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also made it
> > clear that he was sure labor issues over wages and other workplace
> > issues would probably come up and that there was no way these could be
> > addressed in such a setting.
> >
> > I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that labor issues
> > would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and
> > requested that he trust me that it would be okay. I also asked him to
> > listen to the workers talk and resist taking charge of the subject.
> >
> > No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first round
> > and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at me big
> > time. I will admit I was nervous.
> >
> > The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of frustration, 30
> > minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the best jobs n
> > the valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the end of the
> > second round the company president faxed from the other site that
> > their ideas were all valuable and could be implemented!
> >
> > The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement, and
> optimism.
> >
> > --
> > Shalom,
> >
> > Chris Kloth
> > ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> > 254 South Merkle Road
> > Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> > ph 614-239-1336
> > fax 614-237-2347
> > www.got2change.com<http://www.got2change.com>
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> >
> > Think globally. Act locally.
> >
> >
> > Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com<mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>:
> >
> > > Hey Chris,
> > >
> > > Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear your
> > > experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you mentioned is still
> > > active!
> > >
> > > If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
> > >
> > >    - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and the
> non-profit
> > >    partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
> > >    - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has multiple
> > sites.
> > >    I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do you
> recommend
> > for
> > >    executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
> > >
> > > Thank you so much Chris!
> > >
> > > Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share recommendations for
> > > executing OS cross-site, please do!
> > >
> > > All the best,
> > > Jake
> > > ________________
> > >
> > > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
> and
> > > you will be free of problems.
> > >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
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> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth <
> chris.kloth at got2change.com<mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a division of
> > >> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually 100% of the
> > >> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
> > >> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the midwest. We had
> > >> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to communicate what
> > >> was going on at each location each round! By the end of the process
> > >> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization
> > >> structure.
> > >>
> > >> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
> > >> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing early childhood
> > >> care and education to very different types of children, resulting in a
> > >> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a plan for the
> > >> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is now almost
> > >> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the principles of OST.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Shalom,
> > >>
> > >> Chris Kloth
> > >> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> > >> 254 South Merkle Road
> > >> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> > >> ph 614-239-1336
> > >> fax 614-237-2347
> > >> www.got2change.com<http://www.got2change.com>
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> > >>
> > >> Think globally. Act locally.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>:
> > >>
> > >> > Hi all,
> > >> >
> > >> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or vision
> > statement
> > >> or
> > >> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
> > >> recommendations?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks!
> > >> >
> > >> > Much love as always,
> > >> > Jake
> > >> >
> > >> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in person! :)
> > >> > ________________
> > >> >
> > >> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
> > and
> > >> > you will be free of problems.
> > >> >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
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> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 11:11:40 -0400
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> Subject: [OSList] Open Space Hangout! Tues Aug 13, 12 PM EDT!
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Hear hear!


Thanks Harrison.


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On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 8:24 PM +0300, "Harrison Owen via OSList" <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:












Actually, I beg to differ. As one who has been in the Open Space game as long as anyone, I suppose ? the whole possibility of certification (or whatever, by which ever name) is a) oxymoronic, b) technically dubious (I can?t imagine how you would actually do it), and strategically a bad play. Teaching/certifying Open Space is rather like certifying breathing ? a natural activity which comes with our existence. It is true that some people learn to do it (breathing) better ? Olympic Athletes for example ? but it really is a natural act. Opening space is a natural act. Some do it better than others ? but it is what we do. Creating a Certification program for enabling that boggles my mind. Right up there with creating a ?certification program? for being ?human.? ?B) Technically dubious? Every situation is so contextually defined that any criteria for performance (certification) would be so limited as to be not useful. Translated that would mean something like ? would Open Space Certificat
 ion guarantee that the individual would work with equal effectiveness with Afghanis and North American White Supremacists? I doubt that, and more than that? it all seems to happen very naturally all by itself, has for a number of years ? (with absolutely NO Program, OST is now a worldwide phenomenon). C) Strategically a bad play? Fact is, OST is the control oriented, certification aficionada, managers -- worst nightmare. ?If it actually did what 30+ years of global experience seems to demonstrate that it does? Much if not all of what currently is the ?lode star? of managerial competence, ?CONTROL? ? Never happened. But we can?t let that secret out. Blow our cover! However, if you quietly open space wherever, whenever, however, about what ever? as often as you can ? Magic does seem to happen. And the truth is ( my truth) is that anybody can do it.

?

ho

?

From: OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>] On Behalf Of David Osborne via OSList
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 12:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [OSList] Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc.

?

Great thoughtful post Mark. Thanks for stimulating my thinking, reflection and imagination.?

?

David

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 14, 2019, at 11:39 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:

Fascinating conversation. This is exactly why we need a certification-like program and an organizational structure for the future if we want to train people in the finer points of sustaining open space interventions over time as Chris has done. There is a lot more to it than just throwing out an invitation and opening up the market place. It is interesting to me that from the most seasoned open space masters the idea was instantly shot down, saying...we discussed that already... Now that is not what an open space facilitator normally does right? Shoot down other people's ideas. The world has evolved into one that respects credentials. Interestingly the ones who spoke the strongest against certification have already given themselves nice fancy titles. Which is wonderful.? Because credentials really do matter. Right now open space facilitators must give themself their own title and otherwise have no backing whatsoever to lend credibility to their self given titles. When you talk about
 overcoming the resistance of executives and with the retaliation nation nature of things now (look at Hong Kong) it makes sense to put some structure to the educational credentialing of OSTsters from apprentice? to Master to mentor.? In terms of VISION and MISSION and VALUES and STRATEGY, why is it that we facilitators want to apply that same organizational structure for ALL other organizations but resist doing the same for OUR work, to create OUR organization... What IS our vision...to hope the world magically organizes around OST... or to make it happen through a viable 1,000 year vision.? In his great book, Leadership Is,? Harrison is spot on to define OST as the ONE way for leaders to be a caretaker of the Spirit.? We must not be naive to believe that leaders will not crush the Spirit once it emerges in Open Space. This requires highly advanced training to be able to navigate the process over decades of implementation.? ALL great decisions require great leadership. If OST ever g
 ets an organization, I hope this idea will be considered by its leaders or of course someone else will do it or it will not be done. In some ways, or all ways, Harrison has created a new religion of Spirit and I hope that an organizational structure WILL be created kinda like that other dude who started out with 12 disciples.?

Peace,

Mark Carmel

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Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:25:41 -0400
From: Chris Kloth <chris.kloth at got2change.com<mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com>>
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Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the middle of?
a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk) that is?
pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.

That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall triggered a?
powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we were to?
start a very resistant top executive made it clear to me that he?
thought this approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also made it?
clear that he was sure labor issues over wages and other workplace?
issues would probably come up and that there was no way these could be?
addressed in such a setting.

I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that labor issues?
would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and?
requested that he trust me that it would be okay. I also asked him to?
listen to the workers talk and resist taking charge of the subject.

No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first round?
and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at me big?
time. I will admit I was nervous.

The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of frustration, 30?
minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the best jobs n?
the valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the end of the?
second round the company president faxed from the other site that?
their ideas were all valuable and could be implemented!

The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement, and optimism.

--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
www.got2change.com<http://www.got2change.com>

Think globally. Act locally.


Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com<mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>:

> Hey Chris,
>
> Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear your
> experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you mentioned is still
> active!
>
> If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
>
>? ? - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and the non-profit
>? ? partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
>? ? - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has multiple sites.
>? ? I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do you recommend for
>? ? executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
>
> Thank you so much Chris!
>
> Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share recommendations for
> executing OS cross-site, please do!
>
> All the best,
> Jake
> ________________
>
> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
> you will be free of problems.
>? - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth <chris.kloth at got2change.com<mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com>>
> wrote:
>
>> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a division of
>> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually 100% of the
>> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
>> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the midwest. We had
>> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to communicate what
>> was going on at each location each round! By the end of the process
>> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization
>> structure.
>>
>> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
>> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing early childhood
>> care and education to very different types of children, resulting in a
>> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a plan for the
>> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is now almost
>> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the principles of OST.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Shalom,
>>
>> Chris Kloth
>> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
>> 254 South Merkle Road
>> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
>> ph 614-239-1336
>> fax 614-237-2347
>> www.got2change.com<http://www.got2change.com>
>>
>> Think globally. Act locally.
>>
>>
>> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or vision statement
>> or
>> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
>> recommendations?
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > Much love as always,
>> > Jake
>> >
>> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in person! :)
>> > ________________
>> >
>> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
>> > you will be free of problems.
>> >? - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:57:37 -0400
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Beautiful! Thank you Chris!!

ho

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From: OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 5:26 PM
To: jacob.yeager at gmail.com<mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>
Cc: Chris Kloth; World wide Open Space Technology email list
Subject: Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning?

Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the middle of?
a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk) that is?
pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.

That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall triggered a?
powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we were to?
start a very resistant top executive made it clear to me that he?
thought this approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also made it?
clear that he was sure labor issues over wages and other workplace?
issues would probably come up and that there was no way these could be?
addressed in such a setting.

I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that labor issues?
would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and?
requested that he trust me that it would be okay. I also asked him to?
listen to the workers talk and resist taking charge of the subject.

No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first round?
and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at me big?
time. I will admit I was nervous.

The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of frustration, 30?
minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the best jobs n?
the valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the end of the?
second round the company president faxed from the other site that?
their ideas were all valuable and could be implemented!

The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement, and optimism.

--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
www.got2change.com<http://www.got2change.com>

Think globally. Act locally.


Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com<mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>:

> Hey Chris,
>
> Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear your
> experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you mentioned is still
> active!
>
> If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
>
>? ? - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and the non-profit
>? ? partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
>? ? - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has multiple sites.
>? ? I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do you recommend
for
>? ? executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
>
> Thank you so much Chris!
>
> Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share recommendations for
> executing OS cross-site, please do!
>
> All the best,
> Jake
> ________________
>
> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
> you will be free of problems.
>? - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth <chris.kloth at got2change.com<mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com>>
> wrote:
>
>> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a division of
>> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually 100% of the
>> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
>> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the midwest. We had
>> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to communicate what
>> was going on at each location each round! By the end of the process
>> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization
>> structure.
>>
>> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
>> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing early childhood
>> care and education to very different types of children, resulting in a
>> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a plan for the
>> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is now almost
>> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the principles of OST.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Shalom,
>>
>> Chris Kloth
>> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
>> 254 South Merkle Road
>> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
>> ph 614-239-1336
>> fax 614-237-2347
>> www.got2change.com<http://www.got2change.com>
>>
>> Think globally. Act locally.
>>
>>
>> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or vision
statement
>> or
>> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
>> recommendations?
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > Much love as always,
>> > Jake
>> >
>> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in person! :)
>> > ________________
>> >
>> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
and
>> > you will be free of problems.
>> >? - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
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>>
>>
>



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Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 15:23:21 -0700
From: Peggy Holman <peggy at peggyholman.com<mailto:peggy at peggyholman.com>>
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I?ll add another strategic planning story to the mix. In the 1999, I did a project with the Washington State Arts Commission to create a strategic plan that was widely embraced by artists and arts organizations all over the state. The commission?s continued funding was riding on success.

We hosted 20 Open Space convenings around the state over 6 weeks. The first and last were statewide. The rest were 3-hour sessions in towns as small as Twisp and cities as large as Seattle. In the end, the arts commission created a plan that was not only widely embraced, but two years later during an economic downturn, the funding held when other departments were cut because of the widespread support.

When we started, the commission members were convinced large and small, east and west, rural and urban would all be at war with each other. In fact, they found synergies and ways to partner.

A bit more of the story is here: http://peggyholman.com/a-conversation-about-the-arts/ <http://peggyholman.com/a-conversation-about-the-arts/>.

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> On Aug 12, 2019, at 2:25 PM, Chris Kloth via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>
> Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the middle of a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk) that is pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
>
> That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall triggered a powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we were to start a very resistant top executive made it clear to me that he thought this approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also made it clear that he was sure labor issues over wages and other workplace issues would probably come up and that there was no way these could be addressed in such a setting.
>
> I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that labor issues would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and requested that he trust me that it would be okay. I also asked him to listen to the workers talk and resist taking charge of the subject.
>
> No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first round and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at me big time. I will admit I was nervous.
>
> The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of frustration, 30 minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the best jobs n the valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the end of the second round the company president faxed from the other site that their ideas were all valuable and could be implemented!
>
> The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement, and optimism.
>
> --
> Shalom,
>
> Chris Kloth
> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> 254 South Merkle Road
> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> ph 614-239-1336
> fax 614-237-2347
> www.got2change.com<http://www.got2change.com> <http://www.got2change.com/>
>
> Think globally. Act locally.
>
>
> Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com<mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com> <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com<mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>>:
>
>> Hey Chris,
>>
>> Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear your
>> experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you mentioned is still
>> active!
>>
>> If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
>>
>>? ?- What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and the non-profit
>>? ?partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
>>? ?- I am an internal consultant, and our organization has multiple sites.
>>? ?I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do you recommend for
>>? ?executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
>>
>> Thank you so much Chris!
>>
>> Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share recommendations for
>> executing OS cross-site, please do!
>>
>> All the best,
>> Jake
>> ________________
>>
>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
>> you will be free of problems.
>> - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/ <http://www.robert-adams.info/>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth <chris.kloth at got2change.com<mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com> <mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com<mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a division of
>>> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually 100% of the
>>> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
>>> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the midwest. We had
>>> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to communicate what
>>> was going on at each location each round! By the end of the process
>>> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization
>>> structure.
>>>
>>> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
>>> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing early childhood
>>> care and education to very different types of children, resulting in a
>>> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a plan for the
>>> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is now almost
>>> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the principles of OST.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Shalom,
>>>
>>> Chris Kloth
>>> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
>>> 254 South Merkle Road
>>> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
>>> ph 614-239-1336
>>> fax 614-237-2347
>>> www.got2change.com<http://www.got2change.com>
>>>
>>> Think globally. Act locally.
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>:
>>>
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or vision statement
>>> or
>>> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
>>> recommendations?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks!
>>> >
>>> > Much love as always,
>>> > Jake
>>> >
>>> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in person! :)
>>> > ________________
>>> >
>>> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
>>> > you will be free of problems.
>>> >? - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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From: Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com<mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>
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? ? ? ? <CAESAiLT2+Aa=KQKctTAwMwryHpSy4owZBfCyVcgJsX=Ek0qNEg at mail.gmail.com<mailto:Ek0qNEg at mail.gmail.com>>
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Thank you everyone for your replies! They are very, very helpful.

I have contracted with an internal client who is interested in using OST.
His team is cross-site, so these suggestions and experiences are
invaluable. It really is about experimenting, identifying what works, and
sharing my experience with others to move the work forward. Oh, and
trusting the people. :)

Thanks again!

Much love,
Jake
________________

When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
you will be free of problems.
?- Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>


On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 5:25 PM Chris Kloth <chris.kloth at got2change.com<mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com>>
wrote:

> Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the middle of
> a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk) that is
> pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
>
> That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall triggered a
> powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we were to
> start a very resistant top executive made it clear to me that he
> thought this approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also made it
> clear that he was sure labor issues over wages and other workplace
> issues would probably come up and that there was no way these could be
> addressed in such a setting.
>
> I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that labor issues
> would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and
> requested that he trust me that it would be okay. I also asked him to
> listen to the workers talk and resist taking charge of the subject.
>
> No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first round
> and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at me big
> time. I will admit I was nervous.
>
> The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of frustration, 30
> minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the best jobs n
> the valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the end of the
> second round the company president faxed from the other site that
> their ideas were all valuable and could be implemented!
>
> The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement, and optimism.
>
> --
> Shalom,
>
> Chris Kloth
> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> 254 South Merkle Road
> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> ph 614-239-1336
> fax 614-237-2347
> www.got2change.com<http://www.got2change.com>
>
> Think globally. Act locally.
>
>
> Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com<mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>:
>
> > Hey Chris,
> >
> > Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear your
> > experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you mentioned is still
> > active!
> >
> > If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
> >
> >? ? - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and the non-profit
> >? ? partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
> >? ? - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has multiple
> sites.
> >? ? I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do you recommend
> for
> >? ? executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
> >
> > Thank you so much Chris!
> >
> > Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share recommendations for
> > executing OS cross-site, please do!
> >
> > All the best,
> > Jake
> > ________________
> >
> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
> > you will be free of problems.
> >? - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth <chris.kloth at got2change.com<mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com>
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a division of
> >> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually 100% of the
> >> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
> >> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the midwest. We had
> >> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to communicate what
> >> was going on at each location each round! By the end of the process
> >> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization
> >> structure.
> >>
> >> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
> >> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing early childhood
> >> care and education to very different types of children, resulting in a
> >> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a plan for the
> >> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is now almost
> >> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the principles of OST.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Shalom,
> >>
> >> Chris Kloth
> >> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> >> 254 South Merkle Road
> >> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> >> ph 614-239-1336
> >> fax 614-237-2347
> >> www.got2change.com<http://www.got2change.com>
> >>
> >> Think globally. Act locally.
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>:
> >>
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or vision
> statement
> >> or
> >> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
> >> recommendations?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > Much love as always,
> >> > Jake
> >> >
> >> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in person! :)
> >> > ________________
> >> >
> >> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
> and
> >> > you will be free of problems.
> >> >? - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> >> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
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Subject: [OSList] Open Space Hangout! Tues Aug 13, 12 PM EDT!
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