[OSList] Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc.

paul levy paul at cats3000.net
Fri Aug 16 23:47:15 PDT 2019


I'd never certify OST. Only takes one minute to explain, or one second to
discover.

Best wishes,

Paul Levy

Paul Levy
Writer, facilitator, conversifier and collusion breaker

On Fri, 16 Aug 2019, 22:42 Michael M Pannwitz via OSList, <
oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> It would not surprise me if Jesus had come to the conclusion that all
> organizations created by man are the work of the devil.
>
> That could then have held him back from founding an institute certifying
> his first followers.
>
> Greetings from Berlin where I mulled over all the certification
> organizations that I encountered in my life. They all contributed to the
> ossification of their victims and made a lot of money.
>
> But then, wait a minute, I do remember taking part in  a training for OD
> consultants and parish consultants back in the seventies of the last
> century in the last millenium.
> Folks attending were invited for a final day of certification after the
> training concluded (very complex training, including 5 ten day training
> sessions over 2 years, regional groups for gatherings between the blocks
> and prescribed hours of supervision by especially trained supervisors
> that were certified, of course, none other were accepted).
>
> Now, the invitation to get certified was offered to all of us.
> Some needed a certification to work with their skills in their
> organizations.
> Others did not. I was one of them. Actually, there were 5 of us.
> At first we felt it nice to have a free day.
> But, I dont know how that came about but from my present stage of
> looking at stuff I am sure it was the Force of Selforganization that got
> us thinking about all 5 of us certifying each and all of the others,
> including oneself. Only if they passed the certification, of course.
> So we set out to come up with a process. We did this in open space (had
> not shown its vicious head yet in 1975) and had a wonderful time. We
> actually drew up a certification document and got two of the training
> staff to put their signature to it along with those of us five. This
> made it look gorgeous. I still have it. Its in German. I could dig it up
> in my archives if any of you would like to get a copy.
> As we 5 heard later, our collegial certification was enormously tougher
> than that offered by the training institute.
>
> Have a great day wherever you are
> mmp
>
> Am 16.08.2019 um 19:45 schrieb Marai Kiele via OSList:
> >
> >
> >> Am 14.08.2019 um 18:42 schrieb Mark Carmel via OSList
> >> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >>:
> >>
> >> Chris, thank you for your response.  However, an Empire is defined as
> >> an authoritarian organization of countries, or people, under single
> >> rule like the Roman empire. The chuch's first rule of becoming
> >> certified as high priest is that women are not allowed In.  We see how
> >> that worked out... That is not OS and is not what I recommend. So
> >> please do not misunderstand my intent. I am not calling for empire
> >> building or authoritarianism, but calling for organization of an
> >> Educational Institute to train and educate those who facilitate OST in
> >> the world of empire building WE all live in. If we leave it to mother
> >> nature to do it out of Spirit alone we could be waiting another 4,000
> >> years.  How to prepare facilitators and participants to face the
> >> inevitable pushback from their own leaders (like now) or from leaders
> >> of empires once raw honesty is put out there is an advanced skill
> >> set.  One that will help or hurt outcomes. Chris, you are spot on to
> >> invoke the Devil. Because the Devil always attacks honesty that
> >> exposes the hidden, dishonest agendas of leaders who proudly open
> >> space only to crush those who are Too honest for their liking. Therein
> >> lies a significant learning moment to train facilitators in the
> >> ability to discern authenticity in the leadership before engaging.
> >> Dishonesty has become the new trend in management and leadership. Just
> >> look at the state of American politics and media coverage of it. The
> >> number one contraindiction as HO aptly defines it, in my experience is
> >> dishonest leadership. This must be discerned first, as only one of the
> >> teaching lessons for all future facilitators. Otherwise good, honest
> >> participants and their facilitators are given up to the devilish
> >> empire builders you describe.  Especially in the great
> >> US of A democracy that has become Retaliation Nation.
> >> Thanks again Chris!
> >> Miss you having not seen you since Dulles.
> >> Peace!
> >> MC
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019, 10:05 AM Chris Corrigan
> >> <chris.corrigan at gmail.com <mailto:chris.corrigan at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     You do realize that Jesus never certified practitioners of
> >>     Christianity, right? And that subsequent attempts to do so
> >>     basically created a toxic blending of Church and Empire that
> >>     contributed to mass amounts of suffering through incredibly toxic
> >>     and psychopathic uses of power and control for most of the last
> >>     1700 years?
> >>
> >>     And I say that as a Christian who works with churches.
> >>
> >>     Mark, just open space.  That’s what the world wants more of. It
> >>     does not want or need more  people running around saying they are
> >>     certified to open space.  It truly doesn’t care. Your credentials
> >>     mean nothing if you aren’t actually opening space.  And if you are
> >>     opening space, no one will care what your credentials are.  The
> >>     best OST meetings I’ve ever been a part of were facilitated by
> >>     people who had never done them before.  They cared about the
> >>     participants, they took care to follow the instructions, they took
> >>     nothing for granted, and they learned a lot about themselves and
> >>     others.  Some of these people were 14 years old.
> >>
> >>     Coincidently, some of these people are also the best Christians I
> >>     have ever met, too, for the same reasons.
> >>
> >>     Just do the work and share your learning and get better at it.
> >>     That’s how I learned, that’s how I support others and that’s my
> >>     invitation to you. Resist the devilish temptation to build an
> empire.
> >>
> >>     Chris
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>     On Aug 14, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList
> >>>     <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >>>     <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>     Fascinating conversation. This is exactly why we need a
> >>>     certification-like program and an organizational structure for
> >>>     the future if we want to train people in the finer points of
> >>>     sustaining open space interventions over time as Chris has done.
> >>>     There is a lot more to it than just throwing out an invitation
> >>>     and opening up the market place. It is interesting to me that
> >>>     from the most seasoned open space masters the idea was instantly
> >>>     shot down, saying...we discussed that already... Now that is not
> >>>     what an open space facilitator normally does right? Shoot down
> >>>     other people's ideas. The world has evolved into one that
> >>>     respects credentials. Interestingly the ones who spoke the
> >>>     strongest against certification have already given themselves
> >>>     nice fancy titles. Which is wonderful.  Because credentials
> >>>     really do matter. Right now open space facilitators must give
> >>>     themself their own title and otherwise have no backing whatsoever
> >>>     to lend credibility to their self given titles. When you talk
> >>>     about overcoming the resistance of executives and with the
> >>>     retaliation nation nature of things now (look at Hong Kong) it
> >>>     makes sense to put some structure to the educational
> >>>     credentialing of OSTsters from apprentice  to Master to mentor.
> >>>     In terms of VISION and MISSION and VALUES and STRATEGY, why is it
> >>>     that we facilitators want to apply that same organizational
> >>>     structure for ALL other organizations but resist doing the same
> >>>     for OUR work, to create OUR organization... What IS our
> >>>     vision...to hope the world magically organizes around OST... or
> >>>     to make it happen through a viable 1,000 year vision.  In his
> >>>     great book, Leadership Is,  Harrison is spot on to define OST as
> >>>     the ONE way for leaders to be a caretaker of the Spirit.  We must
> >>>     not be naive to believe that leaders will not crush the Spirit
> >>>     once it emerges in Open Space. This requires highly advanced
> >>>     training to be able to navigate the process over decades of
> >>>     implementation.  ALL great decisions require great leadership. If
> >>>     OST ever gets an organization, I hope this idea will be
> >>>     considered by its leaders or of course someone else will do it or
> >>>     it will not be done. In some ways, or all ways, Harrison has
> >>>     created a new religion of Spirit and I hope that an
> >>>     organizational structure WILL be created kinda like that other
> >>>     dude who started out with 12 disciples.
> >>>     Peace,
> >>>     Mark Carmel
> >>>
> >>>     On Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 11:03 PM
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> >>>            1. Re: OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning?
> >>>         (Chris Kloth)
> >>>            2. Re: OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning?
> >>>         (Harrison Owen)
> >>>            3. Re: OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning?
> >>>         (Peggy Holman)
> >>>            4. Re: OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning?
> >>>         (Jake Yeager)
> >>>            5. Open Space Hangout! Tues Aug 13, 12 PM EDT! (Tony Budak)
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> >>>         Message: 1
> >>>         Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:25:41 -0400
> >>>         From: Chris Kloth <chris.kloth at got2change.com
> >>>         <mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com>>
> >>>         To: jacob.yeager at gmail.com <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>
> >>>         Cc: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> >>>                 <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >>>         <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> >>>         Subject: Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic
> >>>         Planning?
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> >>>
> >>>         Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the
> >>>         middle of
> >>>         a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk)
> >>>         that is
> >>>         pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
> >>>
> >>>         That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall
> >>>         triggered a
> >>>         powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we
> >>>         were to
> >>>         start a very resistant top executive made it clear to me that
> he
> >>>         thought this approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also
> >>>         made it
> >>>         clear that he was sure labor issues over wages and other
> >>>         workplace
> >>>         issues would probably come up and that there was no way these
> >>>         could be
> >>>         addressed in such a setting.
> >>>
> >>>         I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that
> >>>         labor issues
> >>>         would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and
> >>>         requested that he trust me that it would be okay. I also
> >>>         asked him to
> >>>         listen to the workers talk and resist taking charge of the
> >>>         subject.
> >>>
> >>>         No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first
> >>>         round
> >>>         and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at
> >>>         me big
> >>>         time. I will admit I was nervous.
> >>>
> >>>         The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of
> >>>         frustration, 30
> >>>         minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the
> >>>         best jobs n
> >>>         the valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the
> >>>         end of the
> >>>         second round the company president faxed from the other site
> >>>         that
> >>>         their ideas were all valuable and could be implemented!
> >>>
> >>>         The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement,
> >>>         and optimism.
> >>>
> >>>         --
> >>>         Shalom,
> >>>
> >>>         Chris Kloth
> >>>         ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> >>>         254 South Merkle Road
> >>>         Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> >>>         ph 614-239-1336
> >>>         fax 614-237-2347
> >>>         www.got2change.com <http://www.got2change.com/>
> >>>
> >>>         Think globally. Act locally.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>         Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com
> >>>         <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>:
> >>>
> >>>         > Hey Chris,
> >>>         >
> >>>         > Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear
> >>>         your
> >>>         > experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you
> >>>         mentioned is still
> >>>         > active!
> >>>         >
> >>>         > If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
> >>>         >
> >>>         >    - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and
> >>>         the non-profit
> >>>         >    partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
> >>>         >    - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has
> >>>         multiple sites.
> >>>         >    I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do
> >>>         you recommend for
> >>>         >    executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
> >>>         >
> >>>         > Thank you so much Chris!
> >>>         >
> >>>         > Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share
> >>>         recommendations for
> >>>         > executing OS cross-site, please do!
> >>>         >
> >>>         > All the best,
> >>>         > Jake
> >>>         > ________________
> >>>         >
> >>>         > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine
> >>>         once again, and
> >>>         > you will be free of problems.
> >>>         >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
> >>>         >
> >>>         >
> >>>         > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth
> >>>         <chris.kloth at got2change.com <mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com
> >>
> >>>         > wrote:
> >>>         >
> >>>         >> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a
> >>>         division of
> >>>         >> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually
> >>>         100% of the
> >>>         >> employees of the new organization in two geographic
> locations
> >>>         >> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the
> >>>         midwest. We had
> >>>         >> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to
> >>>         communicate what
> >>>         >> was going on at each location each round! By the end of
> >>>         the process
> >>>         >> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic
> organization
> >>>         >> structure.
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
> >>>         >> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing
> >>>         early childhood
> >>>         >> care and education to very different types of children,
> >>>         resulting in a
> >>>         >> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a
> >>>         plan for the
> >>>         >> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is
> >>>         now almost
> >>>         >> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the
> >>>         principles of OST.
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >> --
> >>>         >> Shalom,
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >> Chris Kloth
> >>>         >> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> >>>         >> 254 South Merkle Road
> >>>         >> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> >>>         >> ph 614-239-1336
> >>>         >> fax 614-237-2347
> >>>         >> www.got2change.com <http://www.got2change.com/>
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >> Think globally. Act locally.
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList
> >>>         <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >>>         <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>:
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >> > Hi all,
> >>>         >> >
> >>>         >> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or
> >>>         vision statement
> >>>         >> or
> >>>         >> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go?
> Any
> >>>         >> recommendations?
> >>>         >> >
> >>>         >> > Thanks!
> >>>         >> >
> >>>         >> > Much love as always,
> >>>         >> > Jake
> >>>         >> >
> >>>         >> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in
> >>>         person! :)
> >>>         >> > ________________
> >>>         >> >
> >>>         >> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine
> >>>         once again, and
> >>>         >> > you will be free of problems.
> >>>         >> >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
> >>>         >> >
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >>
> >>>
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> >>>         >>
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>         Message: 2
> >>>         Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:57:37 -0400
> >>>         From: "Harrison Owen" <hhowensr at gmail.com
> >>>         <mailto:hhowensr at gmail.com>>
> >>>         To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'"
> >>>                 <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >>>         <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> >>>         Subject: Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic
> >>>         Planning?
> >>>         Message-ID: <001201d55158$f4f61ec0$dee25c40$@com>
> >>>         Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
> >>>
> >>>         Beautiful! Thank you Chris!!
> >>>
> >>>         ho
> >>>
> >>>         -----Original Message-----
> >>>         From: OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> >>>         <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>] On Behalf Of
> >>>         Chris Kloth via OSList
> >>>         Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 5:26 PM
> >>>         To: jacob.yeager at gmail.com <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>
> >>>         Cc: Chris Kloth; World wide Open Space Technology email list
> >>>         Subject: Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic
> >>>         Planning?
> >>>
> >>>         Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the
> >>>         middle of
> >>>         a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk)
> >>>         that is
> >>>         pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
> >>>
> >>>         That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall
> >>>         triggered a
> >>>         powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we
> >>>         were to
> >>>         start a very resistant top executive made it clear to me that
> he
> >>>         thought this approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also
> >>>         made it
> >>>         clear that he was sure labor issues over wages and other
> >>>         workplace
> >>>         issues would probably come up and that there was no way these
> >>>         could be
> >>>         addressed in such a setting.
> >>>
> >>>         I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that
> >>>         labor issues
> >>>         would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and
> >>>         requested that he trust me that it would be okay. I also
> >>>         asked him to
> >>>         listen to the workers talk and resist taking charge of the
> >>>         subject.
> >>>
> >>>         No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first
> >>>         round
> >>>         and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at
> >>>         me big
> >>>         time. I will admit I was nervous.
> >>>
> >>>         The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of
> >>>         frustration, 30
> >>>         minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the
> >>>         best jobs n
> >>>         the valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the
> >>>         end of the
> >>>         second round the company president faxed from the other site
> >>>         that
> >>>         their ideas were all valuable and could be implemented!
> >>>
> >>>         The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement,
> >>>         and optimism.
> >>>
> >>>         --
> >>>         Shalom,
> >>>
> >>>         Chris Kloth
> >>>         ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> >>>         254 South Merkle Road
> >>>         Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> >>>         ph 614-239-1336
> >>>         fax 614-237-2347
> >>>         www.got2change.com <http://www.got2change.com/>
> >>>
> >>>         Think globally. Act locally.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>         Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com
> >>>         <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>:
> >>>
> >>>         > Hey Chris,
> >>>         >
> >>>         > Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear
> >>>         your
> >>>         > experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you
> >>>         mentioned is still
> >>>         > active!
> >>>         >
> >>>         > If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
> >>>         >
> >>>         >    - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and
> >>>         the non-profit
> >>>         >    partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
> >>>         >    - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has
> >>>         multiple sites.
> >>>         >    I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do
> >>>         you recommend
> >>>         for
> >>>         >    executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
> >>>         >
> >>>         > Thank you so much Chris!
> >>>         >
> >>>         > Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share
> >>>         recommendations for
> >>>         > executing OS cross-site, please do!
> >>>         >
> >>>         > All the best,
> >>>         > Jake
> >>>         > ________________
> >>>         >
> >>>         > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine
> >>>         once again, and
> >>>         > you will be free of problems.
> >>>         >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
> >>>         >
> >>>         >
> >>>         > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth
> >>>         <chris.kloth at got2change.com <mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com
> >>
> >>>         > wrote:
> >>>         >
> >>>         >> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a
> >>>         division of
> >>>         >> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually
> >>>         100% of the
> >>>         >> employees of the new organization in two geographic
> locations
> >>>         >> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the
> >>>         midwest. We had
> >>>         >> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to
> >>>         communicate what
> >>>         >> was going on at each location each round! By the end of
> >>>         the process
> >>>         >> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic
> organization
> >>>         >> structure.
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
> >>>         >> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing
> >>>         early childhood
> >>>         >> care and education to very different types of children,
> >>>         resulting in a
> >>>         >> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a
> >>>         plan for the
> >>>         >> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is
> >>>         now almost
> >>>         >> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the
> >>>         principles of OST.
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >> --
> >>>         >> Shalom,
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >> Chris Kloth
> >>>         >> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> >>>         >> 254 South Merkle Road
> >>>         >> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> >>>         >> ph 614-239-1336
> >>>         >> fax 614-237-2347
> >>>         >> www.got2change.com <http://www.got2change.com/>
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >> Think globally. Act locally.
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList
> >>>         <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >>>         <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>:
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >> > Hi all,
> >>>         >> >
> >>>         >> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or
> >>>         vision
> >>>         statement
> >>>         >> or
> >>>         >> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go?
> Any
> >>>         >> recommendations?
> >>>         >> >
> >>>         >> > Thanks!
> >>>         >> >
> >>>         >> > Much love as always,
> >>>         >> > Jake
> >>>         >> >
> >>>         >> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in
> >>>         person! :)
> >>>         >> > ________________
> >>>         >> >
> >>>         >> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine
> >>>         once again,
> >>>         and
> >>>         >> > you will be free of problems.
> >>>         >> >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
> >>>         >> >
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>         ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>         Message: 3
> >>>         Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 15:23:21 -0700
> >>>         From: Peggy Holman <peggy at peggyholman.com
> >>>         <mailto:peggy at peggyholman.com>>
> >>>         To: Open Listserv <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >>>         <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> >>>         Subject: Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic
> >>>         Planning?
> >>>         Message-ID:
> >>>         <433F9A43-8D47-4AF6-9EA7-9621012C2511 at peggyholman.com
> >>>         <mailto:433F9A43-8D47-4AF6-9EA7-9621012C2511 at peggyholman.com>>
> >>>         Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>>
> >>>         I?ll add another strategic planning story to the mix. In the
> >>>         1999, I did a project with the Washington State Arts
> >>>         Commission to create a strategic plan that was widely
> >>>         embraced by artists and arts organizations all over the
> >>>         state. The commission?s continued funding was riding on
> success.
> >>>
> >>>         We hosted 20 Open Space convenings around the state over 6
> >>>         weeks. The first and last were statewide. The rest were
> >>>         3-hour sessions in towns as small as Twisp and cities as
> >>>         large as Seattle. In the end, the arts commission created a
> >>>         plan that was not only widely embraced, but two years later
> >>>         during an economic downturn, the funding held when other
> >>>         departments were cut because of the widespread support.
> >>>
> >>>         When we started, the commission members were convinced large
> >>>         and small, east and west, rural and urban would all be at war
> >>>         with each other. In fact, they found synergies and ways to
> >>>         partner.
> >>>
> >>>         A bit more of the story is here:
> >>>         http://peggyholman.com/a-conversation-about-the-arts/
> >>>         <http://peggyholman.com/a-conversation-about-the-arts/>.
> >>>
> >>>         Peggy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>         ________________________________
> >>>         Peggy Holman
> >>>         Co-founder
> >>>         Journalism That Matters
> >>>         15347 SE 49th Place
> >>>         Bellevue, WA  98006
> >>>         206-948-0432
> >>>         www.journalismthatmatters.org
> >>>         <http://www.journalismthatmatters.org/>
> >>>         www.peggyholman.com <http://www.peggyholman.com/>
> >>>         Twitter: @peggyholman
> >>>         JTM Twitter: @JTMStream
> >>>
> >>>         Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning?Upheaval
> >>>         into Opportunity <http://www.engagingemergence.com/>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>         > On Aug 12, 2019, at 2:25 PM, Chris Kloth via OSList
> >>>         <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >>>         <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
> >>>         >
> >>>         > Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in
> >>>         the middle of a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam
> >>>         Foss' Ted Talk) that is pretty consuming. I know I have the
> >>>         file somewhere.
> >>>         >
> >>>         > That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall
> >>>         triggered a powerful memory. When I got to my site the night
> >>>         before we were to start a very resistant top executive made
> >>>         it clear to me that he thought this approach a ridiculous
> >>>         waste of time. He also made it clear that he was sure labor
> >>>         issues over wages and other workplace issues would probably
> >>>         come up and that there was no way these could be addressed in
> >>>         such a setting.
> >>>         >
> >>>         > I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that
> >>>         labor issues would probably come up if it mattered to those
> >>>         in the room and requested that he trust me that it would be
> >>>         okay. I also asked him to listen to the workers talk and
> >>>         resist taking charge of the subject.
> >>>         >
> >>>         > No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the
> >>>         first round and was attended by almost everyone at my site.
> >>>         He scowled at me big time. I will admit I was nervous.
> >>>         >
> >>>         > The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of
> >>>         frustration, 30 minutes of "We are all in this together and
> >>>         still have the best jobs n the valley" and 30 minutes of
> >>>         developing strategies. By the end of the second round the
> >>>         company president faxed from the other site that their ideas
> >>>         were all valuable and could be implemented!
> >>>         >
> >>>         > The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy,
> >>>         excitement, and optimism.
> >>>         >
> >>>         > --
> >>>         > Shalom,
> >>>         >
> >>>         > Chris Kloth
> >>>         > ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> >>>         > 254 South Merkle Road
> >>>         > Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> >>>         > ph 614-239-1336
> >>>         > fax 614-237-2347
> >>>         > www.got2change.com <http://www.got2change.com/>
> >>>         <http://www.got2change.com/>
> >>>         >
> >>>         > Think globally. Act locally.
> >>>         >
> >>>         >
> >>>         > Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com
> >>>         <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>
> >>>         <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com
> >>>:
> >>>         >
> >>>         >> Hey Chris,
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >> Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to
> >>>         hear your
> >>>         >> experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you
> >>>         mentioned is still
> >>>         >> active!
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >> If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >>   - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and
> >>>         the non-profit
> >>>         >>   partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
> >>>         >>   - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has
> >>>         multiple sites.
> >>>         >>   I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do
> >>>         you recommend for
> >>>         >>   executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >> Thank you so much Chris!
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >> Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share
> >>>         recommendations for
> >>>         >> executing OS cross-site, please do!
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >> All the best,
> >>>         >> Jake
> >>>         >> ________________
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine
> >>>         once again, and
> >>>         >> you will be free of problems.
> >>>         >> - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
> >>>         <http://www.robert-adams.info/>>
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth
> >>>         <chris.kloth at got2change.com
> >>>         <mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com>
> >>>         <mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com
> >>>         <mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com>>>
> >>>         >> wrote:
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >>> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a
> >>>         division of
> >>>         >>> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included
> >>>         virtually 100% of the
> >>>         >>> employees of the new organization in two geographic
> locations
> >>>         >>> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the
> >>>         midwest. We had
> >>>         >>> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to
> >>>         communicate what
> >>>         >>> was going on at each location each round! By the end of
> >>>         the process
> >>>         >>> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic
> >>>         organization
> >>>         >>> structure.
> >>>         >>>
> >>>         >>> I used OST as part of the process of forming a
> collaborative
> >>>         >>> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing
> >>>         early childhood
> >>>         >>> care and education to very different types of children,
> >>>         resulting in a
> >>>         >>> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a
> >>>         plan for the
> >>>         >>> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is
> >>>         now almost
> >>>         >>> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the
> >>>         principles of OST.
> >>>         >>>
> >>>         >>>
> >>>         >>> --
> >>>         >>> Shalom,
> >>>         >>>
> >>>         >>> Chris Kloth
> >>>         >>> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> >>>         >>> 254 South Merkle Road
> >>>         >>> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> >>>         >>> ph 614-239-1336
> >>>         >>> fax 614-237-2347
> >>>         >>> www.got2change.com <http://www.got2change.com/>
> >>>         >>>
> >>>         >>> Think globally. Act locally.
> >>>         >>>
> >>>         >>>
> >>>         >>> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList
> >>>         <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >>>         <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>:
> >>>         >>>
> >>>         >>> > Hi all,
> >>>         >>> >
> >>>         >>> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or
> >>>         vision statement
> >>>         >>> or
> >>>         >>> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go?
> Any
> >>>         >>> recommendations?
> >>>         >>> >
> >>>         >>> > Thanks!
> >>>         >>> >
> >>>         >>> > Much love as always,
> >>>         >>> > Jake
> >>>         >>> >
> >>>         >>> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in
> >>>         person! :)
> >>>         >>> > ________________
> >>>         >>> >
> >>>         >>> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will
> >>>         shine once again, and
> >>>         >>> > you will be free of problems.
> >>>         >>> >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
> >>>         >>> >
> >>>         >>>
> >>>         >>>
> >>>         >>>
> >>>         >>>
> >>>
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> >>>         Program.
> >>>         >>>
> >>>         >>>
> >>>         >>
> >>>         >
> >>>         >
> >>>         >
> >>>         >
> >>>
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> >>>         Program.
> >>>         >
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> >>>
> >>>         Message: 4
> >>>         Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 07:54:31 -0400
> >>>         From: Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com
> >>>         <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>
> >>>         Cc: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> >>>                 <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >>>         <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> >>>         Subject: Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic
> >>>         Planning?
> >>>         Message-ID:
> >>>
> >>>         <CAESAiLT2+Aa=KQKctTAwMwryHpSy4owZBfCyVcgJsX=
> Ek0qNEg at mail.gmail.com
> >>>         <mailto:Ek0qNEg at mail.gmail.com>>
> >>>         Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>>
> >>>         Thank you everyone for your replies! They are very, very
> helpful.
> >>>
> >>>         I have contracted with an internal client who is interested
> >>>         in using OST.
> >>>         His team is cross-site, so these suggestions and experiences
> are
> >>>         invaluable. It really is about experimenting, identifying
> >>>         what works, and
> >>>         sharing my experience with others to move the work forward.
> >>>         Oh, and
> >>>         trusting the people. :)
> >>>
> >>>         Thanks again!
> >>>
> >>>         Much love,
> >>>         Jake
> >>>         ________________
> >>>
> >>>         When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once
> >>>         again, and
> >>>         you will be free of problems.
> >>>          - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>         On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 5:25 PM Chris Kloth
> >>>         <chris.kloth at got2change.com <mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com
> >>
> >>>         wrote:
> >>>
> >>>         > Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in
> >>>         the middle of
> >>>         > a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk)
> >>>         that is
> >>>         > pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
> >>>         >
> >>>         > That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall
> >>>         triggered a
> >>>         > powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we
> >>>         were to
> >>>         > start a very resistant top executive made it clear to me
> >>>         that he
> >>>         > thought this approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also
> >>>         made it
> >>>         > clear that he was sure labor issues over wages and other
> >>>         workplace
> >>>         > issues would probably come up and that there was no way
> >>>         these could be
> >>>         > addressed in such a setting.
> >>>         >
> >>>         > I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that
> >>>         labor issues
> >>>         > would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room
> and
> >>>         > requested that he trust me that it would be okay. I also
> >>>         asked him to
> >>>         > listen to the workers talk and resist taking charge of the
> >>>         subject.
> >>>         >
> >>>         > No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the
> >>>         first round
> >>>         > and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled
> >>>         at me big
> >>>         > time. I will admit I was nervous.
> >>>         >
> >>>         > The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of
> >>>         frustration, 30
> >>>         > minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the
> >>>         best jobs n
> >>>         > the valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the
> >>>         end of the
> >>>         > second round the company president faxed from the other
> >>>         site that
> >>>         > their ideas were all valuable and could be implemented!
> >>>         >
> >>>         > The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy,
> >>>         excitement, and optimism.
> >>>         >
> >>>         > --
> >>>         > Shalom,
> >>>         >
> >>>         > Chris Kloth
> >>>         > ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> >>>         > 254 South Merkle Road
> >>>         > Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> >>>         > ph 614-239-1336
> >>>         > fax 614-237-2347
> >>>         > www.got2change.com <http://www.got2change.com/>
> >>>         >
> >>>         > Think globally. Act locally.
> >>>         >
> >>>         >
> >>>         > Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com
> >>>         <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>:
> >>>         >
> >>>         > > Hey Chris,
> >>>         > >
> >>>         > > Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to
> >>>         hear your
> >>>         > > experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you
> >>>         mentioned is still
> >>>         > > active!
> >>>         > >
> >>>         > > If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for
> you:
> >>>         > >
> >>>         > >    - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum
> >>>         and the non-profit
> >>>         > >    partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of
> ground!
> >>>         > >    - I am an internal consultant, and our organization
> >>>         has multiple
> >>>         > sites.
> >>>         > >    I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What
> >>>         do you recommend
> >>>         > for
> >>>         > >    executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
> >>>         > >
> >>>         > > Thank you so much Chris!
> >>>         > >
> >>>         > > Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share
> >>>         recommendations for
> >>>         > > executing OS cross-site, please do!
> >>>         > >
> >>>         > > All the best,
> >>>         > > Jake
> >>>         > > ________________
> >>>         > >
> >>>         > > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine
> >>>         once again, and
> >>>         > > you will be free of problems.
> >>>         > >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
> >>>         > >
> >>>         > >
> >>>         > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth
> >>>         <chris.kloth at got2change.com <mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com
> >
> >>>         > >
> >>>         > > wrote:
> >>>         > >
> >>>         > >> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a
> >>>         division of
> >>>         > >> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included
> >>>         virtually 100% of the
> >>>         > >> employees of the new organization in two geographic
> >>>         locations
> >>>         > >> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the
> >>>         midwest. We had
> >>>         > >> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to
> >>>         communicate what
> >>>         > >> was going on at each location each round! By the end of
> >>>         the process
> >>>         > >> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic
> >>>         organization
> >>>         > >> structure.
> >>>         > >>
> >>>         > >> I used OST as part of the process of forming a
> collaborative
> >>>         > >> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing
> >>>         early childhood
> >>>         > >> care and education to very different types of children,
> >>>         resulting in a
> >>>         > >> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a
> >>>         plan for the
> >>>         > >> first two years of their partnership. That partnership
> >>>         is now almost
> >>>         > >> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the
> >>>         principles of OST.
> >>>         > >>
> >>>         > >>
> >>>         > >> --
> >>>         > >> Shalom,
> >>>         > >>
> >>>         > >> Chris Kloth
> >>>         > >> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> >>>         > >> 254 South Merkle Road
> >>>         > >> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> >>>         > >> ph 614-239-1336
> >>>         > >> fax 614-237-2347
> >>>         > >> www.got2change.com <http://www.got2change.com/>
> >>>         > >>
> >>>         > >> Think globally. Act locally.
> >>>         > >>
> >>>         > >>
> >>>         > >> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList
> >>>         <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >>>         <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>:
> >>>         > >>
> >>>         > >> > Hi all,
> >>>         > >> >
> >>>         > >> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission
> >>>         and/or vision
> >>>         > statement
> >>>         > >> or
> >>>         > >> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it
> >>>         go? Any
> >>>         > >> recommendations?
> >>>         > >> >
> >>>         > >> > Thanks!
> >>>         > >> >
> >>>         > >> > Much love as always,
> >>>         > >> > Jake
> >>>         > >> >
> >>>         > >> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in
> >>>         person! :)
> >>>         > >> > ________________
> >>>         > >> >
> >>>         > >> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will
> >>>         shine once again,
> >>>         > and
> >>>         > >> > you will be free of problems.
> >>>         > >> >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
> >>>         > >> >
> >>>         > >>
> >>>         > >>
> >>>         > >>
> >>>         > >>
> >>>
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> >>>         Program.
> >>>         > >>
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> >>>         >
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> >>>         Message: 5
> >>>         Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 11:11:40 -0400
> >>>         From: Tony Budak <tonybudak at tbmw.org <mailto:
> tonybudak at tbmw.org>>
> >>>         To: oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >>>         <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> >>>         Subject: [OSList] Open Space Hangout! Tues Aug 13, 12 PM EDT!
> >>>         Message-ID: <646af711-8a01-11f6-b712-b187e005129a at tbmw.org
> >>>         <mailto:646af711-8a01-11f6-b712-b187e005129a at tbmw.org>>
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> >>>
> >>>         *Open Space Hang Out is ON for today at NOON est*
> >>>
> >>>         On 8/5/2019 6:49 PM, Tricia Chirumbole via OSList wrote:
> >>>         > Hey all!!
> >>>         >
> >>>         > We'll be hanging out again tomorrow and waiting to see who
> >>>         shows up
> >>>         > and what happens! The Open Space hangout will be happening
> >>>         on Zoom
> >>>         > this *Tuesday*?- *August 6th **@12 PM Eastern Daylight Time!*
> >>>         >
> >>>         > Pop in and ask questions, workshop ideas, explore
> >>>         possibilities, share
> >>>         > what's up or just listen or say hi! We will gather for 1+
> >>>         hours - Law
> >>>         > of Two feet applies!
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