[OSList] A Question About Safety
David Osborne
dosborne at change-fusion.com
Tue Aug 28 07:46:29 PDT 2018
Looks really interesting.
Thanks Michael
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 28, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Michael Herman via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
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> and this yesterday in the nytimes...
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> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/27/books/review/splintering-william-egginton-coddling-greg-lukianoff-jonathan-haidt.html
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> a review of two books that suggest safety concerns, especially on college campuses and within the iGen cohort that follows millennials, gets in the way of people learning to communicate about important issues, setting democracy up for failure.
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> THE SPLINTERING OF THE AMERICAN MIND
> Identity Politics, Inequality, and Community on Today’s College Campuses
> By William Egginton
> 263 pp. Bloomsbury. $28.
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> THE CODDLING OF THE AMERICAN MIND
> How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas Are Setting Up a Generation for Failure
> By Greg Lukianoff and Jonathan Haidt
> 338 pp. Penguin Press. $28.
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> Michael Herman
> Michael Herman Associates
> 312-280-7838 (mobile)
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> http://MichaelHerman.com
> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org
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>> On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 1:10 PM, Dan Mezick via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>> Here’s a book that associates computer network efficiency at scale with civilization-efficiency at scale. And vice versa, which is his essential point.
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>> The conclusion is that individual agents are the only entities capable of making promises at that level and that this is actually super-efficient and in fact optimal in terms of at-scale system level performance: how interesting...
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>> Promise Theory: Thinking in Promises
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>> https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Promises-Designing-Systems-Cooperation/dp/1491917873
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>>> On Aug 25, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Harrison Owen via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
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>>> Oh sure. YOU alone a responsible for what you do/are -- unless of course you are mentally impaired. And nobody can keep you "honest" better that your peers and colleagues. Presuming that they step up and do their job. Of course, if they sit on the sideline and allow terrible things to happen... It really is about taking personal responsibility for the life you live and for those who live it with you. Nothing is perfect, of course, but we try.
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>>> From: Mona Saleh Abd El Salam via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>>> To: oslist <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>>> Cc: Mona Saleh Abd El Salam <m.saleh.abdelsalam at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Sat, Aug 25, 2018 12:34 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] A Question About Safety
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>>> Harrison,
>>> maybe you also indicate having everyone appreciated for what they do, as well as having everyone responsible for what they do?
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>>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 2:54 PM Harrison Owen via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>> Mona… In all the years that I have facilitated/participated in Open Space I have never seen any physical violence. Tense situations for sure, but the group always handled it and, most importantly, learned from it. I think I understand what you mean with a “code of conduct” but I’ve never seen the need for it and more to the point such a code could shift responsibility for humane behavior from the individual to the Code. My hope is always to “ultimize” (no such word, I know) each person’s responsibility for themselves and their fellows. That it always (in my experience) seem to work may prove something?
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>>> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Mona Saleh Abd El Salam via OSList
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>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] A Question About Safety
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>>> maybe you mean having individuals with some (common sense) that can be listed in a (code of conduct) according to which they behave.
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>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 12:34 PM David Osborne via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
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>>> Quoting from Harrison in The Practice of Peace.
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>>> Stuart Kaufman's original work which focused on biological systems aka the emergence of life on earth describes five pre-conditions for open space, one of which is "A safe, nutrient-rich environment." Harrison goes on to describe the equivalent for Human systems as "some kind of safety and support in the overall environment."
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>>> I interpret safety as a psychologically safe space where individuals can act and speak ( take risks, share diverse views etc.
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>>> Can it be too safe to support self-organization?
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>>> David
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>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 2:13 AM, Bhavesh Patel <bhavmail at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Curious to know what you mean by 'safety'?
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>>> On 21 August 2018 at 07:49, David Osborne via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
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>>> Greetings all,
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>>> I have questions about safety related to self-organization I would love others thoughts on.
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>>> Is it possible for an environment can be too safe to support self-organization? Can safety be at such a high level that it inhibits or slows down the self-organizing process?
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>>> I'm very interested to hear others perspectives.
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>>> Best to all,
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>>> David
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>>> David R. Osborne
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