[OSList] Fwd: Hope Never Dies!

Bhavesh Patel bhavmail at gmail.com
Wed Apr 11 00:40:40 PDT 2018


Check this out Nick: https://fowpdx.com/open-space/

On 6 April 2018 at 15:30, Nick Martin via OSList <
oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Hi everybody!
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> Thank you all so much for your excellent feedback. I've been watching with
> enormous interest.
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> I've just had a great Skype with Bhav where he was kind enough to take me
> through in more detail where my rendition of Open Space is veering from the
> traditional. It was incredibly enlightening (thanks again Bhav).
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> For me, it's critical I get this right for readers of my website who are
> far less experienced than your good selves so I'm committed to changing it.
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> Bhav suggested that I might create an editable Google Doc of a new draft
> and share it with you for comments and edits. I thought that a wonderful
> idea! Here it is and I promise to publish whatever we end up with ...
> assuming it's clean :)
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> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ufIsy0BQvIqlRUbW0FAyXHGV0IKw3
> VdDT8L91RIJJU8/edit?usp=sharing
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> Naturally the Law of Two Feet very much applies so please don't feel
> obligated. All input and feedback is very much appreciated.
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> On 04/04/2018 16:37, Dan Mezick via OSList wrote:
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> “CFCF” (control for control freaks) might be a more appropriate name.
> Either that or “Project Management”.
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> with a twist, of course.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Apr 4, 2018, at 10:11 AM, Peggy Holman via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
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> I see the site has a contact page: https://workshopbank.com/contact
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> Anyone care to give them some feedback and request they stop calling this
> thing Open Space with a twist?
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> Peggy Holman
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> Begin forwarded message:
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> *From:* Harrison Owen via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> *Date:* April 4, 2018 at 6:40:52 AM PDT
> *To:* "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'" <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> *Cc:* Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
> *Subject:* *Re: [OSList] Hope Never Dies!*
> *Reply-To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
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> This is not the first time for this conversation… The simple truth: Old
> habits die very hard. The habit of thinking/hoping/wishing/knowing that
> somebody is in charge doesn’t play very well in Open Space. And so the
> predictable arrives as prognosticated. Or something.
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> Some find this ongoing situation an occasion to defend the process. I can
> understand the feeling, but I am quite sure it is not worth the energy.
> Open Space/self organization will do quite well all by itself, as it has
> for millennia. But there is a sadness, which on occasion expresses itself
> (at least in me) as anger. I find the ignorance and arrogance of those
> “meeting planners” to be totally appalling. The massive disrespect of the
> participants manifest in the presumption that they (the “planning
> Committee”) alone possess the keys to knowledge and action… that they alone
> could ask the pertinent questions for which they will supply the only
> answers, personally or through imported “experts.”  --  is soul numbing.
> Sad.
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> <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>] *On Behalf Of *Eva P Svensson
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:46 AM
> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
> *Cc:* Eva P Svensson
> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Hope Never Dies!
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> Don’t call it Open Space  if it’s not Open space!!
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> Another thing.. I visited my first ”Bar camp” a week ago. Oh my how
> frustrated I was with the control! Imagine that we had to stand up and
>  tell our name and two topic that we would like to talk about (without any
> obligation to bring them up). After that the ones who wanted to raise a
> topic - stod up and read what s/he wanted to talk about in the 45 min
> breakout sessions. Then we were asked to raise our hands if we thought that
> topic was a good idea  - and not if it’ wasn’t… Just imagine standing up
> front of all participants with a topic and no one raised their hand…!
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> Nothing was said about how to collect the recordings so there was a big
> confusion about that. Every breakout session was 45 min and when the time
> was out - the ”facilitator” came in the different rooms and announced that
> the time was over…
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> And of course no circles , just tables. Can you imagine me as being an
> Open Space ”fundamentalist” being oh so much frustrated…
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> Oh my - what an interesting experience …
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> Hugs
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> 3 apr. 2018 kl. 13:20 skrev Bhavesh Patel via OSList <
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> Classic - "*There’s a twist in this version with the inclusion of a
> process that gives the organizers a little more control over the agenda.*"
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> https://workshopbank.com/open-space-technology
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