[OSList] Open Space in Charlottesville

Birgitt Williams via OSList oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
Fri Sep 1 05:48:35 PDT 2017


Hi Lucas,
I think it is helpful to have an attitude of 'we are going to create
something amazing and people will take action' within yourself. I cannot
imagine this going so well if there is any question within the facilitator
that there will be limited outcomes. And so I encourage you to think that
there have been many community OST events that have had outstanding
actions/follow through....and there have.

I agree with Michael about many community events being geared to
conversation which is a great step forward just by itself...a noble reason
for OST.

I also know that by stating 'givens' if it feels right to you to do so, you
could have as given:
-time will be given towards the end of the meeting to read reports of the
discussion groups
-dot voting to discern what the people really have energy for will be done
-based on the data we have...the reports and the results of the
voting...next steps for action will be invited


when a meeting is designed to garner action, there are additional design
elements.

Blessings,
Birgitt

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 5:44 PM Michael Herman <michael at michaelherman.com>
wrote:

> To your observation, Lucas, many community os and onconf events invite
> conversation rather than action. Need to invite action but also need to
> invite it at scale and expertise and resource levels that are true for the
> group. The tools you're offering might be useful but only if folks have the
> expertise, time, maybe money, etc they need. Inviting only those who do
> might shrink attendance. That's where some chest and invite less than they
> really want. Sometimes groups can go find what heft need as first action
> steps. Sometimes it possible or necessary to bring key resources as part of
> the invite. Anyway, the main thing is to start and see who comes, what they
> have and want and might do. It might take more than one meeting <grin>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 16:09 Michael Herman <michael at michaelherman.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Adding to birgitt... open space for *more* of the community we love.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 16:00 Chris Corrigan <chris.corrigan at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Instead of inviting questions, ask for a show of hands from everyone who
>>> has enough clarity to proceed. Ask people to hold their hands high. Then
>>> tell everyone that if you have a question about how things will work, ask
>>> one of the people with their hands held up.
>>>
>>> Chris.
>>>
>>> ___________
>>> CHRIS CORRIGAN
>>> www.chriscorrigan.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 31, 2017, at 1:50 PM, Birgitt Williams via OSList <
>>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Lucas,
>>> I echo Michael's comments about 'safety'...it cannot be promised.
>>>
>>> I got into the start of your scripted intro and thought..."this is too
>>> small a space that Lucas is creating...this is such a great opportunity". I
>>> would not make definitive statements about the tarnished name of
>>> Charlottesville etc as I think that closes some of the space.. Rather, I
>>> would really open the space wide for creating the community we love". Who
>>> knows what inspirations might show up!
>>>
>>> I wish you stellar outcomes! And yes, I would do it 'by the book'!
>>> Birgitt
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:17 AM Michael Herman via OSList <
>>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> the thing i like about the original principles and law is that they are
>>>> essentially descriptive, rather than prescriptive "ground rules."  the law,
>>>> for instance, doesn't say one must use their two feet, it says "you and
>>>> only you know when you are learning and contributing as much as you can."
>>>>  this isn't a ground rule, it's more like a law of nature, defy it at your
>>>> own risk.  the moving about with two feet is just describing what happens
>>>> when people notice and act on the reality of the natural law.
>>>>
>>>> the other thing i notice, lucas, is that you're attempting to promise
>>>> safety.  that's a tall order.  made taller by simultaneously saying that
>>>> ALL ideas are welcome.  the combination of inviting everyone to learn and
>>>> contribute as much as they can, on the one hand, and be prepared to be
>>>> surprised, on the other, should be enough.  if you promise "safe" space,
>>>> then as soon as anyone feels bad the hosts/facilitators are seen as
>>>> responsible.  what you want is for everyone to be responsible for
>>>> everyone's safety.  when the event finishes and everyone is still okay,
>>>> THAT is something the group (not the facilitator) has done for itself,
>>>> perhaps even the MOST important thing.  the principles and law accomplish
>>>> that pretty well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Michael Herman
>>>> Michael Herman Associates
>>>> 312-280-7838 <(312)%20280-7838> (mobile)
>>>>
>>>> http://MichaelHerman.com
>>>> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 4:30 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList <
>>>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The only suggestion I would make is not to take any questions. May
>>>>> seem rude, but the fact of the matter is that everything will be clear upon
>>>>> departure, and the sooner you get to take off the better. One side
>>>>> note—Personal prejudice, I’m sure—The original “5 Principles” and One Law
>>>>> quickly do the job, and my preference is always to quickly get out of the
>>>>> way and let the people do their job. Good Luck!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Harrison
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Winter Address
>>>>>
>>>>> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>>>>>
>>>>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>>>>
>>>>> 301-365-2093 <(301)%20365-2093>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Summer Address
>>>>>
>>>>> 189 Beaucauire Ave
>>>>>
>>>>> Camden, ME 04843
>>>>>
>>>>> 207 763-3261 <(207)%20763-3261>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Websites
>>>>>
>>>>> www.openspaceworld.com
>>>>>
>>>>> www.ho-image.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Lucas Cioffi via OSList
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 29, 2017 6:29 PM
>>>>> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Open Space in Charlottesville
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Harrison, thanks so much for the prompt reply.  Below is the
>>>>> draft script for the event.  I wrote it down since I'm out of practice.  I
>>>>> won't read it word for word; it's just a guide.  You'll see the rules and
>>>>> the law are not referred to directly, since I think the crowd will
>>>>> understand it better if we explain it like this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course I may be very wrong about that.  I'm just doing what seems
>>>>> best in my judgement.  I'm 100% open to any and all suggestions!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lucas
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 8:30am: Opening
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [JESSICA]
>>>>>
>>>>> Welcome, everyone.  My name is Jessica G.  And my name is Lucas C.
>>>>> All of us are gathered here to think together, and we are here to work
>>>>> together. If this goes well, it could be the start of something big.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Charlottesville’s name has been tarnished.  We have a window of
>>>>> opportunity for a second act.  That window is closing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If there’s one community that can think outside the box and is not
>>>>> intimidated by obstacles, it’s the tech community.  But we need vision, we
>>>>> need passion, and we need to be grounded in what’s practical, so that’s why
>>>>> we invited the leaders of ten local civic and activist groups from across
>>>>> the political spectrum.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [LUCAS]
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a participant-driven event, and it will be what we all make of
>>>>> it.  Our job as facilitators is to help you be at your best and then to get
>>>>> out of the way
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Some ground rules for all of us to keep in mind:
>>>>>
>>>>> ·        Everyone is welcome here, and we mean everyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> ·        All ideas are welcome here, and we mean all ideas.
>>>>>
>>>>> ·        This is a safe space for all of us to express any idea, even
>>>>> ones which are tough to hear, as long as you are coming from a place of
>>>>> respect.
>>>>>
>>>>> ·        And on the flip side, if you hear something that triggers
>>>>> you, first please assume that the other person is coming from a place of
>>>>> respect.
>>>>>
>>>>> ·        Think about who is not in the room and speak for them if you
>>>>> can.  We don’t represent all of Charlottesville, so it’s important to think
>>>>> about who isn’t present so that we find solutions that work for the most
>>>>> people.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Think big.  What can we do as a tech community and as a city that
>>>>> makes a splash nationally?  Can you think of a solution that breaks out of
>>>>> the left-right paradigm, or a solution that helps us find commonality
>>>>> rather than getting tripped up over a long and complicated racial past?
>>>>> Can you find solutions that appeal to both the center and the fringes?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here’s how this event will happen.  You see over there an open agenda
>>>>> wall.  Across the top, you see six spaces: the four corners of this room,
>>>>> Conference Room 1, and Conference Room 2.  Going down the left side, you
>>>>> see three rounds of discussion.  Each round lasts 40 minutes with a
>>>>> 5-minute break in between.  There will be a 15-minute closing session at
>>>>> the end.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want remote participants to be able to join your session, then
>>>>> please schedule your session in one of the conference rooms.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In a moment, each of us will have the opportunity to post a session
>>>>> topic.  You’ll walk to the center of the circle, pick up a piece of paper
>>>>> and a marker.  Write the discussion topic and your name.  Announce it, and
>>>>> then post it on the agenda wall.  Sessions should be conversational rather
>>>>> than presentations or monologues.  All you have to do have are some great
>>>>> questions, and the answers will come through the discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Let’s give everyone a moment to think about what sessions they want to
>>>>> hold before we get started.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (pause for a minute)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, when you’re ready, please go ahead and write down your session
>>>>> topic and then announce it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (people start announcing and posting their topics on the wall)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now we’ll start the breakout sessions.  This is your event, so you
>>>>> won’t see us dropping by to remind you of how much time is left or the need
>>>>> to wrap up.  If your conversation is running long, please take it to the
>>>>> cafe area, out of respect for the people who are participating in the next
>>>>> session in that space.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Open space has the law of two feet, which means that if find a
>>>>> conversation isn’t going the way you expected, you are highly encouraged to
>>>>> pick up and move to another conversation where you can contribute more.
>>>>> Don’t take it personally if people drop out of your session.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You can feel free to hop between sessions, and you can feel free to
>>>>> just hang out by yourself in the hallway or even take a walk with someone
>>>>> outside.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Whenever possible, please take good notes for those who could not
>>>>> attend.  We expect that many people across the community will want to
>>>>> organize around your ideas and help you implement them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there any questions?
>>>>>
>>>>> (pause)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, the session topics are posted.  Let’s make today count.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 9:00am: Breakout Round 1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 9:45am: Breakout Round 2
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 10:30am: Breakout Round 3
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 11:15am: Closing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [Jessica]
>>>>>
>>>>> Welcome back.
>>>>>
>>>>> (pause)
>>>>>
>>>>> What thoughts would you like to share with everyone?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lucas Cioffi
>>>>>
>>>>> Founder, QiqoChat.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Charlottesville, VA
>>>>>
>>>>> Mobile: 917-528-1831 <(917)%20528-1831>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds wonderful . But  what is this “openspacish” event? Just do it.
>>>>> And if you need some help try Kai down in Harrisonburg. Used to be the
>>>>> Mayor – and had done lots of OS – by the book. Works.And he shows up on the
>>>>> list.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ho
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Winter Address
>>>>>
>>>>> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>>>>>
>>>>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>>>>
>>>>> 301-365-2093 <(301)%20365-2093>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Summer Address
>>>>>
>>>>> 189 Beaucauire Ave
>>>>>
>>>>> Camden, ME 04843
>>>>>
>>>>> 207 763-3261 <(207)%20763-3261>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Websites
>>>>>
>>>>> www.openspaceworld.com
>>>>>
>>>>> www.ho-image.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Lucas Cioffi via OSList
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 28, 2017 4:42 PM
>>>>> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>>>> *Subject:* [OSList] Open Space in Charlottesville
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi All, I sent this out to the NCDD listserv moments ago and thought I
>>>>> need to share it with the wonderful folks here on OS-LIST too.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You may have seen the violence in Charlottesville two weeks ago when
>>>>> alt-right protesters and Black Lives Matter & Antifa counter-protesters
>>>>> clashed.  One alt-right sympathizer committed a terrorist attack by
>>>>> violently plowing his car into a crowd of counter-protesters, killing one
>>>>> and injuring 19.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The community is still stunned and no one knows what to do, so what
>>>>> should we do?  We should open some space.  I'm putting together a 3-hour
>>>>> open space-ish event on Thursday for the Cville tech community (and
>>>>> inviting local leaders of civic and activist groups) so we can figure out
>>>>> what we as technologists have to offer.  If this goes well, we'll hold a
>>>>> larger open space for all of Cville.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If that goes well, maybe I can work with some of you to hold some
>>>>> simultaneous open spaces across the country one day this Autumn.  I'll also
>>>>> try opening some space with Zoom & QiqoChat (for the breakouts).  If/when
>>>>> that happens, I'll be sure to reach out here so that we can plan this in
>>>>> the open.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I look forward to seeing what else comes of all this...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lucas Cioffi
>>>>>
>>>>> Founder, QiqoChat.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Charlottesville, VA
>>>>>
>>>>> Mobile: 917-528-1831 <(917)%20528-1831>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: *Lucas Cioffi* <lucas at qiqochat.com>
>>>>> Date: Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 4:34 PM
>>>>> Subject: Hi from Charlottesville (Round 2)
>>>>> To: "NCDD-DISCUSSION at LISTS.NCDD.ORG" <NCDD-DISCUSSION at lists.ncdd.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you so much for the tremendous discussion on this listserv over
>>>>> the past sixteen days!  I've learned so much from the resources and ideas
>>>>> you have all shared.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *UPDATES*
>>>>>
>>>>> The work to respond to the violence of August 12th is just beginning.
>>>>> Last night the Department of Justice's Community Relations Service
>>>>> <https://www.justice.gov/crs/about-crs> (created as part of the 1964
>>>>> Civil Rights Act) held their first public town meeting here.  I posted
>>>>> rough notes below so you can get a sense of what people were talking
>>>>> about.  It was supposed to last 2 hours, but went 3.5 hours.  The meeting
>>>>> was in a high school auditorium and there were about 500 people present.
>>>>> Everyone had a chance at the microphone.  There were no time limits.  There
>>>>> were 10 news crews present.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Big themes that I heard:
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Cville's black community is very upset about August 12th but
>>>>>    also about the lack of economic opportunity & affordable housing, and
>>>>>    pervasive racism
>>>>>    - many people are outraged by the police security plan on August
>>>>>    12th
>>>>>    - many people feel the community is still not safe for them
>>>>>    - several people mentioning that they want to take action into
>>>>>    their own hands if City Council doesn't act (alluding to violence,
>>>>>    including the one guy who said he was the one who threatened the mayor at
>>>>>    the last City Council meeting)
>>>>>    - two people did get in a 5-min shouting match over the general
>>>>>    idea of taking down monuments
>>>>>    - there is a big lack of trust in government at all levels, from
>>>>>    the city (& police) to the DOJ and the President
>>>>>
>>>>> *NEXT STEPS*
>>>>>
>>>>> As a member of Cville's tech community, the first step I'm taking is
>>>>> co-organizing a 3-hour "open space" this Thursday.  The target audience is
>>>>> our local tech community plus leaders of local civic and activist groups.
>>>>> If this succeeds, we'll help convene a bigger one open which will be open
>>>>> to everyone in Charlottesville.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've also heard from 10 local citizens and half dozen members of this
>>>>> listserv who want to volunteer for any local dialogue initiative that we
>>>>> may plan.  I'm sincerely thankful for those of you who have reached out.
>>>>> For those that cannot make it to Cville, I think we will also plan online
>>>>> dialogue using Zoom video chat (breakout rooms made possible by QiqoChat)
>>>>> during which time any NCDD member can host a breakout room and use any
>>>>> dialogue technique they want; the audience will be people across the
>>>>> country.  We'll have an open planning process if/when that happens, so you
>>>>> will hear about it on this listserv.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll know more after the local tech community convenes on Thursday.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lucas Cioffi
>>>>>
>>>>> Charlottesville, VA
>>>>>
>>>>> Mobile: 917-528-1831 <(917)%20528-1831>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> INTRODUCTION BY DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Department of Justice Community Relations Service
>>>>>    - Three phases: recovery, dialogue, moving forward
>>>>>    - Acknowledge what has happened
>>>>>    - Many questions have been asked and are under investigation.
>>>>>    - We need to educate ourselves to preven tthis from reoccurring.
>>>>>    - We've had dialogue about who we are in the past.
>>>>>    - Let's be patient.
>>>>>    - We all have to be able to listen.
>>>>>    - DOJ CRS created as part of the 1964 Civil Rights Act:
>>>>>    https://www.justice.gov/crs/about-crs
>>>>>    - Tonight we will collect concerns, identify common themes, and
>>>>>    create resolution.
>>>>>    - Here are the ground rules: respect, one person at a time, etc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> COMMUNITY CONCERNS
>>>>>
>>>>>    - lack of trust in Trump & Attorney General Jeff Sessions
>>>>>    - police were reactive instead fo proactive
>>>>>    - lack of leadership from City Council
>>>>>    - we need better gun control in parks
>>>>>    - we need to learn how to get these statues down
>>>>>    - we need all voices heard; the political right should be a part
>>>>>    of the meeting not a target of this meeting
>>>>>    - the county is part of the Cville community
>>>>>    - we need faith in rule of law
>>>>>    - police failed to protect our people
>>>>>    - wishing there was a way to remove privilege
>>>>>    - http://solidaritycville.com/Demands/ has 10 demands:
>>>>>    - 1. Revoke the permit for the August 12 “Unite the Right March on
>>>>>    Charlottesville” and grant a permit for the Carnival de Resistance.
>>>>>    - 2. Remove the Lee and Jackson statues, now.
>>>>>    - 3. Fulfill the “Positive Vision of Resident Directed
>>>>>    Redevelopment” from the Charlottesville Public Housing Association of
>>>>>    Residents.
>>>>>    - 4. Drop the charges against Veronica Fitzhugh.
>>>>>    - 5. Apologize publicly for negligence in Sage Smith’s
>>>>>    disappearance, and commit to an expansion of the investigation.
>>>>>    - 6. Cease the targeting of Black families by social services to
>>>>>    send children into foster care.
>>>>>    - 7. End JADE (Jefferson Area Drug Enforcement militarized police
>>>>>    unit).
>>>>>    - 8. End money bail, and release people being held without bond
>>>>>    before their trial.
>>>>>    - 9. Stop discriminatory stop-and-frisk.
>>>>>    - need affordable housing
>>>>>    - police need to apologize
>>>>>    - discriminatory foster care poliies
>>>>>    - militarization of police
>>>>>    - stop & frisk
>>>>>    - remove monuments
>>>>>    - resist white supremacy
>>>>>    - sage smith's family
>>>>>    - too few minority faces here
>>>>>    - want understanding
>>>>>    - call this a terrorist attack
>>>>>    - systemic ideal of race
>>>>>    - the DOJ note-taker miswrote on the screen what someone said and
>>>>>    instead wrote "extend white privilege"
>>>>>    - it's a shame that there are no Congressional staff here listening
>>>>>    - why were there no barricades on 4th street?
>>>>>    - lack of trust in government
>>>>>    - gun control
>>>>>    - this meeting is a waste of time, because we're staring from zero
>>>>>    instead of the work that was already done at the Jefferson School a few
>>>>>    days after
>>>>>    - Jefferson School had a better, more engaging meeting
>>>>>    - City Councilmembers have received death threats and that is
>>>>>    unacceptable
>>>>>    - black women want to feel safe
>>>>>    - white nationalists mapped out the black neighborhoods according
>>>>>    to online evidence
>>>>>    - if more blacks were present at the rally, the alt-right would
>>>>>    have opened fire
>>>>>    - how do we protect ourselves
>>>>>    - there should be no open carry law in Cville, there's a state
>>>>>    level rule (Dillon's Rule) that prevents us from making our own laws unless
>>>>>    specifically granted permission by the VA legislature
>>>>>    - white supremacists are still in town
>>>>>    - we are lucky that there was no massacre; we got very lucky
>>>>>    - tired of calls for unity
>>>>>    - feel abandoned by federal government
>>>>>    - DOJ is taking away resources from liberal causes (voter ID laws,
>>>>>    LGBT rights, etc)
>>>>>    - I don't want unity with local wingnuts who have a rifle and a
>>>>>    menacing look on their face
>>>>>    - ask for resignations of city council and city manager
>>>>>    - "Attorney General is a monument to white supremacy"
>>>>>    - drop a bomb in Afghanistan and you're dropping it in Cville too,
>>>>>    because a refugee is affected
>>>>>    - free political prisoners
>>>>>    - investigation of police body cameras
>>>>>    - tear gas on Cville residents
>>>>>    - power to the people (w/ black power fist)
>>>>>    - "they are trying to bury us; we are seeds"
>>>>>    - prosecute community leaders for failing to protect
>>>>>    - charge Richard Spencer
>>>>>    - call a terrorist a terrorist
>>>>>    - When will Kessler get charged?
>>>>>    - minorities are silenced through a summer of hate
>>>>>    - no justice
>>>>>    - police should have stop and frisked Nazis
>>>>>    - our low income community has a gate to keep people in; not the
>>>>>    way it should be
>>>>>    - want harsh punishments of the alt-right
>>>>>    - there is no affordable housing
>>>>>    - there is too much racial profiling and unreasonable search
>>>>>    - there needs to be recreation at low income housing areas; YMCA
>>>>>    not affordable
>>>>>    - no activities for black people
>>>>>    - there should be free speech for the people who disrubpted the
>>>>>    council meeting
>>>>>    - there was a generation of blacks taught to not speak up
>>>>>    - thank you to the white community for coming out in support of
>>>>>    the black community
>>>>>    - there were movies which all happened near here (Birth of a
>>>>>    Nation, Loving, Hidden Figures); Hollywood must have known that something
>>>>>    big was going to happen
>>>>>    - we need to make our history more accessible
>>>>>    - "each one, teach one"
>>>>>    - lack of police presence at minority events
>>>>>    - we're having to police ourselves
>>>>>    - what is the role of Civlle police?
>>>>>    - our history is that our city chose to close schools instead of
>>>>>    desegregate
>>>>>    - our history is Vinegar Hill
>>>>>    - they want to kill back men, especially if they have knowledge
>>>>>    - someone should pay my doctor bills for getting tear-gassed
>>>>>    - judge has blood on his hands
>>>>>    - "if you don't get it, we will shut it down"
>>>>>    - leadership should resign
>>>>>    - we should all vote differently
>>>>>    - "What has voting done for us in the past?"- person yelled out
>>>>>    - this meeting is a farce; we need truth
>>>>>    - where are police when the shroud is removed from the statue last
>>>>>    night?
>>>>>    - Mayor should resign
>>>>>    - (speaker says he was the one that threatened the Mayor at the
>>>>>    last city council meeting)
>>>>>    - give equal rights to blacks
>>>>>    - if you can't do it, we will
>>>>>    - police plan was publicly "arrest people when fights break out"
>>>>>    but that didn't happen
>>>>>    - don't allow hate speech; follow Europe's example of no Nazi
>>>>>    symbols
>>>>>    - our divided country is week
>>>>>    - many of the Nazis are young, impressionable people
>>>>>    - alt-right leaders are saying they are taking the country back
>>>>>    - be careful of what the government tells you, they told us the
>>>>>    police got pepper-sprayed at the KKK rally (the reason they used tear gas)
>>>>>    but they're not saying that anymore
>>>>>    - Trump = terrorist
>>>>>    - investigate Trump
>>>>>    - ISIS would not get a permit
>>>>>    - deny the next permit
>>>>>    - we need honesty and accountability
>>>>>    - we need to elect better people
>>>>>    - what if we had this meeting on July 9th instead?  this meeting
>>>>>    is too little & too late
>>>>>    - This will play out in Richmond bigger if not solved
>>>>>    - people shouldn't come in from out of town to battle on our
>>>>>    streets
>>>>>    - we need more black people at our meeting; we need a different
>>>>>    venue
>>>>>    - police faced the community not the KKK
>>>>>    - media showed up at UVA torch rally long before police; shameful
>>>>>    on police
>>>>>    - no police presence at black churches and many other places
>>>>>    - need a different process other than this meeting; Jefferson
>>>>>    School meeting was much better
>>>>>    - mental health professionals are volunteering to help Cville
>>>>>    residents; there should be official support of such a program
>>>>>    - many people are terrorized
>>>>>    - get rid of monuments
>>>>>    - change happens within ourselves
>>>>>    - don't wait for the City's investigations to conclude; that's
>>>>>    giving away power
>>>>>    - drop charges on Veronica
>>>>>    - need a different system than the Cville City Council & City
>>>>>    Manager structure; our city is too big for that to work now
>>>>>    - there is police harassment
>>>>>    - there has been racism for a long time
>>>>>    - no affordable housing
>>>>>    - we black residents don't care about the statues
>>>>>    - when speech turns violent, it's not protected; there were clear
>>>>>    threats
>>>>>    - Me: this way this race-based violence is escalating is following
>>>>>    a similar pattern with what I saw civil war in Iraq
>>>>>    - Me: anyone interested in building bridges, please share your
>>>>>    email address
>>>>>    - the juvenile justice system is broken
>>>>>    - school to prison pipeline
>>>>>    - "when someone is incarcerated their family does time too"
>>>>>    - my boys are back from prison but mentally still locked up
>>>>>    - we need new economics to build wealth
>>>>>    - no good jobs
>>>>>    - need a mindshift change in city council
>>>>>    - there have never been two black city council members at any
>>>>>    given time
>>>>>    - UVA should be held accountable for the tiki torch rally
>>>>>    - all investigators should be independent
>>>>>    - we need a community security plan (ie sound fire station alarms
>>>>>    if there's an attack)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Birgitt Williams



President & Senior Consultant of Dalar International Consultancy, Inc.

http://www.dalarinternational.com

Co-founder of the Extraordinary Leadership Network
http://www.extraordinaryleadershipnetwork.com

Co-founder of the Genuine Contact™program and author of The Genuine Contact
Way: Nourishing a Culture of Leadership
http://www.genuinecontactway.com


Co-owner of the Genuine Contact Co-owners Group Ltd.
http://www.genuinecontact.net



*Supporting leadership development for leading in a culture requiring
agility and flexibility in a performance environment of constant change.*



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