[OSList] A Little tremor...

Royle, Karl via OSList oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
Sat Jun 25 13:13:00 PDT 2016


<https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/25/boris-johnson-michael-gove-eu-liars>https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/25/boris-johnson-michael-gove-eu-liars

<https://www.facebook.com/karl.royle.33/posts/10153897976832933?notif_t=like&notif_id=1466863748965317>https://www.facebook.com/karl.royle.33/posts/10153897976832933?notif_t=like&notif_id=1466863748965317

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<http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/15/brexit-how-a-fringe-idea-took-hold-tory-party>http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/15/brexit-how-a-fringe-idea-took-hold-tory-party

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Date: Saturday, 25 June 2016 18:49
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Subject: Re: [OSList] A Little tremor...


Recently, I'm surprised by the response of some of my friends to Brexit. The vote is a clearly a vote for the decentralization of authority.

I've always associated the decentralization of authority with: self-organizing teams, responsive organizations, open space,  self-management, Law of 2 Feet, a self-organizing universe, etc.

Many of my friends who claim to like these ideas do not like Brexit whatsoever.

Clearly, missing something important. I am asking for help. Will you help me with this?

[cid:part1.06A8A762.C61B9BC7 at newtechusa.net]


On 6/25/16 10:19 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList wrote:
Dear Paul,

I had to grin thinking of politicians helping to shape waves.
Have you ever seen anyone shaping a wave? I mean the waves in an ocean or even a pond?

I is geared to stay calm and to carry on, thanks for reminding me

cheers
mmp

On 25.06.2016 10:55, Paul Nunesdea via OSList wrote:

Politicians ride waves or at least help to shape them and fear is one of
the items in their tool chest.

Fear of the other is such a powerful tool. Advertisers know that.

I was not surprised with the BREXIT (the UK vote lo leave).

I have heard that human civilizations go in cycles, like the whole
planet itself.

There is something of a strange kind of energy that is accumulating
recently and that started with the Arab springs, certain equivalent
movements in China and Europe, namely in Spain that is going to face
elections this weekend.

These spontaneous movements are the bedrock of a new breed of political
parties in Europe. In Greece and in the city of Rome they won the majority.

Alas, this energy also reveals itself in non-constructive modes.

The riots prior and during the UEFA cup games are also an evidence of
this energy in latency.

Who knows this is also what happened in England? The manifestation of a
societal energy that is mad at something. A will that resists the rain
in polling day. A will so in-depth that the day of vote some realize
they have lied to themselves during the opinion polls.

On the TV news I remember this British guy from the public saying: "in
my heart, I will say leave but with my head, I must vote to stay."

The heart took control and bingo - a huge stone was thrown in the pond.

I also would have voted to leave.

The EU pond is murky. We see waves of refugees and children dying in the
see - WAIT A MINUTE did I said children are dying in the mediterranean sea?

In spite of the honorable intentions of their founding fathers the EU
remains a private club of nations whose political representatives
selfishly seek to please their own constituencies.

I suspect the US history can teach our EU politicians how to build a
united land. US is the land where OST emerged in recent years and that
is part of the same strange energy

Are we going to close the cycle and get back towards where we started as
a single global tribe 50.000 years ago?

I see the BREXIT has an opportunity for that.

The EU needs reinvention.

Keep calm and carry on.


On 25 June 2016 at 00:30, Royle, Karl via OSList
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<mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org><mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>wrote:

Many of us brits were in the 48%. Who voted to stay in and probably
trying to become Scottish or Irish


And 75% of people aged 18 to 25 were in favour of staying in.


The vote wasn’t about the eu but was caused by persistent inequality and
generated fear of the other by a ruling elite that should have known better.


The Uk will ultimately be ok ish


The fear will start if the rest of the EU folds as a result. Not so much
opening space but creating a black hole


Pip pop


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You may have noticed a certain shaking in the World Order. It registered
611.21 on the Dow Jones. That’s a *negative* 611.21. Essentially wiped
out all gains for the year. Money is only what you think it is and …
suddenly… pooof! IT wasn’t !!!



One of the “trending stories” on the New York Times was about Brits
Googling to find out what they had done to themselves. Marvelous. It
doesn’t seem to be “trending” anymore or I would send it to you. But
such things do come and go.



Of course there has been a massive cast of characters, casting stones at
everybody else. Idiots! …along with  a smaller set who are sure they
know exactly what to do, how to do it, and who should be in charge.
Themselves, of course.



Definitely interesting times.



Might be something worth talking about?



This is called opening space, seeing who shows up, and knowing that
whoever cares will be precisely the right people for the conversation.
Of course we didn’t do a lot of “pre-work.” Who knew the Brits were
going to be a crazy as they were/are? – or are they? And no matter…
Serious stuff never happens on schedule, according to plan… when we are
all prepared…



And to quote a great saint (Brian)…. Whenever…





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