[OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video chat?

Birgitt Williams via OSList oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
Mon Aug 29 06:50:00 PDT 2016


Thank you Lucas.
And please feel free to ignore my next queries/thoughts if they don't spark
any energy in you. You have given a thorough answer as it is. Here are the
questions that come to me in reading what you have written.

-what is your definition of useful and to whom? I appreciate that this is
at the root of your creative surge.
-in a world in which artificial intelligence and its use of big data is
already mastering predictability, and since it is possible for artificial
intelligence to predict what you might answer and how you might answer,
where is the space for human exchange that you want to touch and bring
usefulness to?
-albeit a current trend (and apparent addiction) is for something that is
quick and will capture attention or stands the risk of losing attention,
might not the most useful offering to provide to be something that takes
time, that is not quick, that provides space for people who are reflective,
thoughtful to be in genuine conversations?
-and a question we ask in our Working With OST learning modules: after
examining all of the elements of an OST meeting, what, if stripped away
from the list of elements, for you, would no longer qualify as an OST
meeting?

Warmly,
Birgitt

On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:09 PM Lucas Cioffi via OSList <
oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Hi All, thanks for the comments.  Here are some replies for Harrison and
> Birgitt:
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> Hello, Harrison, you asked what unique capabilities online tools have.
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> Here are some ideas about what current technology can do to help OS...
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>    - It's possible for an online OS participant to see all participants
>    in each breakout space (and the notes being taken in each space) so that
>    they can make a more informed decision about whether to exercise the Law of
>    Two Feet (a.k.a. Law of One Click).
>    - It's possible for someone to bring in additional resources, facts,
>    etc into a session while it is happening (the downside is that they are
>    also more distracted than they would be in-person).
>    - Connecting by video chat has some advantages (cost, environmental
>    impact, accessibility, etc).  There are also disadvantages like
>    distraction–wait a minute I need to send out a tweet on Twitter; ok I'm
>    back–and the possibility of less personal connection to other participants.
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> Here are some ideas about what future technology can do to help OS...
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>    - Multilingual conversations will become possible.  For example, one
>    participant is speaking in Chinese and it's instantly translated so that
>    other participants can listen in their native language.
>    - You'll be able to hold an online OS with "robots".  I know this
>    sounds crazy, but it's coming.  For example, in addition to creating an
>    invitation, you can also "create" one or more virtual participants,
>    selecting their personality type, expertise, etc.  They'd be listening and
>    processing all that is said and they would "speak" when it's their turn as
>    if you had a person with that personality and expertise level.  Think of a
>    robot playing the Devil's Advocate for a corporation; it could very well
>    save the organization in some circumstances.  As long as all human
>    participants know that there's a robot participating, I see no harm in
>    this.  It's like having a pet that speaks, and that has it's pros and cons
>    :)  Then again, some day, we might be the robots' pets!
>    - Virtual reality will enable us to participate in a much more
>    liberated way.  "Virtual reality" can already create an immersive
>    experience; you can strap on a pair of goggles and it looks like you're in
>    a room with someone else or a group of people or riding a roller coaster
>    (or a wave!).  When you turn your head to the left, the video feed on your
>    screen adjusts so that you get the sensation that you are actually looking
>    to the left.  The scenery is interactive in 360 degrees.  How is this
>    useful?  Well, there's a discussion on OSList right now about people who
>    lack the ability to pick up the pens and paper in the center of the
>    circle.  When people can assume a new virtual "body" there will be no limit
>    to what they can do in the space.  Someone who has one skin color can wear
>    a different skin color if they like.  Someone can speak as an endangered
>    species.  Sounds crazy, I know!  There are many possibilities, and many
>    potential problems as you can imagine.
>    - I'm sure others can add to this list...
>
> Hello, Birgitt, you asked what I'd like to create.  I'd like to create
> something that people will find useful.  I searched the OSList archives and
> found a fascinating thread from 2012 started by Suzanne Daigle.  To get
> there, visit the August 2012 Archive
> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/2012-August/thread.html> and
> scroll down to "Conversation today with Brian Burt of MaestroConference".
> There are so many great ideas from so many talented facilitators on that
> thread.  I found one of Lisa Heft's responses
> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/2012-August/527642.html>
> and one of Michael Herman's responses
> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/2012-August/527641.html> to
> be especially helpful.
>
> That conversation lists all the elements that are necessary to be present
> to classify an online event as OS.  The part that's missing from that
> conversation is what the user experience would feel like.  Four years have
> passed since that 2012 thread and many on this list have had plenty of
> experiences with online tools that lend themselves to being used for Online
> OS (Tuesday OS hotline, Open Space Online, Zoom, Sococo, MaestroConference,
> QiqoChat, etc).  Each of these tools has strengths and weaknesses.
>
> *Rather than taking a tool-centered approach (how close could we get to OS
> using what's already available), I'd like to take a moment to invite anyone
> to share what a great user experience would feel like, gather these ideas
> on OSList, and then any of these tool makers could build that into their
> platforms.*
>
> Knowing what we now know of online user attention spans, it's got to be
> simple.
>
> Example:
> 1. Participant arrives on a page and sees _____________.
> 2. Next the participant _______________.
>
> Lucas Cioffi
> Founder, QiqoChat.com
> Charlottesville, VA
> Mobile: 917-528-1831
>
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
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>> Lucas – your comments as always are provocative. But maybe a bit too
>> literal?
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>> My thought is – replicating OS (as experienced by human beings in a
>> physical room) is a worthwhile undertaking. The deeper task, I would think,
>> is to open some new space that is available only online. Just as the
>> “normal” (space/time) OST tends to blow people away – what is the
>> cyber-equivalent?
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>> I don’t have a clue of an answer. But I do remember “way back when” –
>> sitting at my kitchen table with a TI Silent 700 plugged into a phone
>> through acoustical couplings.  Suddenly “it” came alive and electronic
>> beings from all over the planet for the most part (actually I am not really
>> sure where they came from) populated my table, life, reality…. Space hadn’t
>> opened. Space/time was transformed.
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>> What can you do for me baby? I guess that is the question.
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>> Harrison
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>> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Lucas Cioffi via OSList
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 28, 2016 10:36 AM
>> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> *Subject:* [OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video
>> chat?
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>> I would be super-excited to hear how folks would design the simplest
>> online Open Space experience using video chat.
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>> 1. When the event begins you open up a webpage.  You can see the
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>>    - where the opening circle is
>>    - how many virtual breakout spaces there are
>>    - who is in each virtual space right now
>>    - what is being discussed now and in the future (a bulletin board /
>>    marketplace / idea wall)
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>> 2. Next you choose to enter a space by turning on your video chat.
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>> *Note: The following features seem helpful but not necessary:*
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>> 3. When you arrive in a space, you see a shared notes area available to
>> all participants.
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>> 4. There is a way to raise your hand to indicate that you'd like to speak.
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>> 5. There is a way to share a quick message such as ("I have to step away
>> for a moment").
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>> *Thanks so much for any advice.  I look forward to hearing what you have
>> in mind!*
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>> Lucas Cioffi
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>> Founder, QiqoChat
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>> Charlottesville, VA
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>> Mobile: 917-528-1831
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